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Chalks
Sep 30, 2009


The team will continue to look at the burning room so that the building doesn't burn down.

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Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://i.imgur.com/sAB5DLT.gifv

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Foo Diddley posted:

I bet Skadden's really regretting starting this lawsuit now that people all over the internet have pointed out all these things they didn't think of

Yep, they are figuring out how to pass the Reddit bar.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


we figured it wouild be fine for players to render the entire universe at once

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Hav posted:

Blast from the past. :five:

I would for real crowdfund a Goon-collaboration Prog Rock Concept Album about this disaster. Epic 80s spaceship album cover and a double-album song cycle that hits the major story arcs from first act to third and epilogue.

Even if it was only cover treatments of the best parody lyrics goons have submitted it would be awesome.

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003

G0RF posted:

I would for real crowdfund a Goon-collaboration Prog Rock Concept Album about this disaster. Epic 80s spaceship album cover and a double-album song cycle that hits the major story arcs from first act to third and epilogue.

Even if it was only cover treatments of the best parody lyrics goons have submitted it would be awesome.

We need to get the rights to Full Burn, though. Maybe at auction...

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

juggalo baby coffin posted:

we figured it wouild be fine for players to render the entire universe at once

And on the 7th day Roberts rest at Monaco.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?
Holy poo poo, I think I called something - from Jan. 17th 2017:

Scruffpuff posted:

We're in 2017, a little more than 2 weeks in, and nothing's working. But it's time to talk about what "might be cool if." In 2 more weeks, nothing will be done. In 2 months - still nothing. At some point this year there will be a 30GB "patch" labelled "3.0" and it will be the same broken poo poo with a tacked-on vestigial feature like "Atmosphere 2.0" where they found a way to decouple the airlock <USE> prompt from your spacesuit and actually track whether or not the zone you're in has air in it (admittedly a very tricky problem that was somehow solved in 2001 by the Everquest guys, and probably earlier than that).

University of Phoenix Warlord Training confirmed.

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003

Scruffpuff posted:

Holy poo poo, I think I called something - from Jan. 17th 2017:


University of Phoenix Warlord Training confirmed.

Don't sell yourself short - yours is a step up, I'll say Full Sail Warlord Training

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Scruffpuff posted:

Holy poo poo, I think I called something - from Jan. 17th 2017:


University of Phoenix Warlord Training confirmed.

I dunno man the patch hasn't hit live yet, I don't think that counts...

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016

PederP posted:

I read a while ago that someone had done a study into where ransomware/malware/nastyware originated, and the various porn sites were almost squeaky clean. The clickbait, content farms and sketchy banner networks were a much bigger source of internet-contracted digital infection.

It's kinda like how everyone is semi-hysterical about hygiene when using a corporate restroom (which has very few bacteria), but happily use shared keyboards that are festering with fascinating diversity and quantity of pathogens. Not to speak of shared bowls of candy or nuts. It's highly likely there will be traces of urine, feces and semen from several individuals. Enjoy the snacks at the next company friday bar ;)

Quality internet info, thanks :) I'm a bit ott when it comes to avoiding anything that looks like a dodgy site, my youngest has just recently started showing interest in computers (specifically mine) so gotta protect the little scamp. :)

There's a bar near me that has huge bowls of salted peanuts on each table and along the bar itself, I once saw a guy pick his nose, do a quick glance at the fools gold he'd just mined, then flick it towards a wall, and then, yup, you guessed it, he stuck the same hand, fingertips first into a bowl that 3 or 4 people were taking from.

I never went back to that bar. :D

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Beet Wagon posted:

I dunno man the patch hasn't hit live yet, I don't think that counts...

I didn't call it hitting Live though, I called that "there will be" so it totally counts.

Allow me to link you to my blog...

Natron
Aug 5, 2004

hot balls man no homo posted:

I can't wait for the first day in court when CIG has to explain that purchases are actually pledges and can't be counted as sales using Cryengine. The smackdown and subsequent ruling will be glorious. The backer's heads will spin and the people at the Guinness Book of World Records will have to strip away the title of biggest crowdfunding success. I'm sure the title of biggest pre-sale of fake space ships record is still open.

They won't take away their record, they'll just change the record they hold.

Chris Roberts, Guinness world record holder for "Biggest, most expensive failure due to utter incompetence in gaming history".

Sandi Gardiner, Guinness world record holder for "worst acting ability to acting salary ratio."

Say what you will, those are both pretty impressive accomplishments.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Does a space toilet really exist if you can't log in and poop in it? :thunk:

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/209783556?t=03h55s

:gary:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/209783556?t=03h07m01s

AP fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Dec 15, 2017

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

The Saddest Robot posted:

What I'm curious about is this claim that RSI "Bought out the Engine". Did RSI buy the complete engine and rights to it but Crytek is still holding them to the original terms of their GLA? What does RSI think they bought? Why doesn't Crytek think that they just flat out purchased the engine from them? Is RSI just talking out their asses or grossly mistaken about something and they never purchased the engine? (I believe that this is the most likely explanation)

We have no idea, nobody outside of CIG & Crytek would know. The GLA contract isn't public.

All the info we do have such as "outright buyout" etc is from pathological liars who would say they had bought exclusive rights to the Moon if they thought it would sell more jpegs.

It's entirely possible that the Erin Roberts post about having bought complete source was talking about the GLA contract with Crytek, logically their contract gave them full source if it also said they'd submit back their additions. If you go download cryengine SDK from crytek right now there is engine source code you don't get. So CIG had more access than a normal engine licensee does. But it's unlikely that they did an "outright buyout" in the same way Amazon did where they have full rights over everything.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Colostomy Bag posted:

Yep, they are figuring out how to pass the Reddit bar.

If Reddit ran the court system:

- Only companies who have lots of money can sue. Otherwise it is a cash grab.
- $75000 is maximum damages for anything
-Suing publicly shows bad faith. You must first disclose the results of Shadow Court. Which is also bad faith.
-Goons are pulling all the strings.
-Money paid for goods and services not delivered is a pledge and therefore non-refundable unless the company feels like it.
-Money due for goods and services delivered under contract is greed and therefore not collectable.
-Only virtuous companies can sue. Any company that wants to sue a company you like is by definition not virtuous.
-The 'nuh-uh' and 'no, you are' defenses are valid.

Any more?

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Beet Wagon posted:

Does a space toilet really exist if you can't log in and poop in it? :thunk:

If you can't log in your space toilet, what's the point?

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016


Which one of you is doing this?

It's getting progressively funnier each time. :)

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

G0RF posted:

I would for real crowdfund a Goon-collaboration Prog Rock Concept Album about this disaster. Epic 80s spaceship album cover and a double-album song cycle that hits the major story arcs from first act to third and epilogue.

Even if it was only cover treatments of the best parody lyrics goons have submitted it would be awesome.

Respectfully submitting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht8JDbWUM1E

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ElkNcCAhSU - This, but from the viewpoint of CiG. (The Richard Burton bit)

Hav fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Dec 15, 2017

Bootcha
Nov 13, 2012

Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending
Grimey Drawer
Oh the lawyers outside are frightful
But the dreams are so delightful
And since we've got nothing to show
Three point oh! Three point oh! Three point oh!

Man the project shows signs of stopping
And I've bought this Porche for retiring
The build functionality's low
Three point oh! Three point oh! Three point oh!

When we finally say "We Tried"
How I'll hate showing up in these courts!
But before I'm undone by my pride
Do you know any non-extradition ports?

The hype is slowly dying
And, citizen, we've stopped refunding
Don't mind me if I tiptoe
Three point oh! Three point oh! Three point oh!

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

If your rear end clips through the ship and into space, can I still hear you parp?

Lack of Gravitas
Oct 11, 2012

Grimey Drawer

Golli posted:


-Goons are pulling all the strings.


This bit is actually true

Nyast
Nov 14, 2017

BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT
You know what would be very salty ? Crytek asking Derek to testify in court against CIG. The tears.

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

Golli posted:

If Reddit ran the court system:

- Only companies who have lots of money can sue. Otherwise it is a cash grab.
- $75000 is maximum damages for anything
-Suing publicly shows bad faith. You must first disclose the results of Shadow Court. Which is also bad faith.
-Goons are pulling all the strings.
-Money paid for goods and services not delivered is a pledge and therefore non-refundable unless the company feels like it.
-Money due for goods and services delivered under contract is greed and therefore not collectable.
-Only virtuous companies can sue. Any company that wants to sue a company you like is by definition not virtuous.
-The 'nuh-uh' and 'no, you are' defenses are valid.

Any more?

You cannot sue a company that is taking "pledges" since those were donations to the advancement of the BDSGE and therfore cannot be taken away from CiG.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Lladre posted:

You cannot sue a company that is taking "pledges" since those were donations to the advancement of the BDSGE and therfore cannot be taken away from CiG.
Source your quotes

Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

The Saddest Robot posted:

What I'm curious about is this claim that RSI "Bought out the Engine". Did RSI buy the complete engine and rights to it but Crytek is still holding them to the original terms of their GLA? What does RSI think they bought? Why doesn't Crytek think that they just flat out purchased the engine from them? Is RSI just talking out their asses or grossly mistaken about something and they never purchased the engine? (I believe that this is the most likely explanation)

My pet theory is that RSI licensed the engine on a long-term contract, possibly rolling renewal-until-specified. One of the IP specialists may be able to describe this with more certainty than I. Some courts will consider a long-term license to be virtually owning something (because you might as well, for most intents and purposes), so they'll treat the licence as a property right.

Someone explained that to Roberts and Co and he went "ding! - I am a big important Space Game Director and clearly this means I own it! I have bought CryEngine".

The rest was just however many years of Chris shouting down anyone who opened their mouth in meetings. Every time Toast tried to bring it up, he got told to shut up and go make the TOS more ironclad.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Sabreseven posted:

Which one of you is doing this?

It's getting progressively funnier each time. :)

I get bored easily

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/209783556?t=03h07m01s

Nyast
Nov 14, 2017

BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT

Dark Off posted:

uhhh is that CIG papers lesnick is shredding?

Yeah, including those:



Although it's been a few years they've started, already..

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7k2mqb/boats_and_underwater_cities/?st=jb8gy10a&sh=eded838d

quote:

I know CIG have other priorities at hand but I just want to say I am excited for boats and you just know they are going to have an underwater city and probably an amphibian spaceship that goes from air to underwater. Exciting.

dreams

Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

Lladre posted:

You cannot sue a company that is taking "pledges" since those were donations to the advancement of the BDSGE and therfore cannot be taken away from CiG.

The presumption that money in a company's accounts belongs to that company is rebuttable by filing a two-line affidavit on Spectrum, which is legally binding and tells the Plaintiff that no they cannot touch your money in the Defendant's account as it was pledged to the Defendant and not to them.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



https://www.polygon.com/2017/12/13/16774244/crytek-star-citizen-cryengine-lawsuit



:gary:

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


CIG has constructed a masterful counter suit, however it clipped partially into the table they set it down on, started to spin uncontrollably (taking the desk with it), and although it has finally settled anyone who tries to touch it instantly falls dead

Terebus
Feb 17, 2007

Pillbug

Haven't they been working on range based culling for over a year now?

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Terebus posted:

Haven't they been working on range based culling for over a year now?

Development only started two weeks ago, my friend

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


here at cig we really show you how the sausage is made *draws back curtain, CIG devs are trying to feed a full size live pig into a small meat grinder* GAME DEV IS HARD OK

The Saddest Robot
Apr 17, 2007

Terebus posted:

Haven't they been working on range based culling for over a year now?

Calculating distances is hard. Even harder than doors.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Loxbourne posted:

The presumption that money in a company's accounts belongs to that company is rebuttable by filing a two-line affidavit on Spectrum, which is legally binding and tells the Plaintiff that no they cannot touch your money in the Defendant's account as it was pledged to the Defendant and not to them.

It is pretty funny that of all the things CIG spends money on without objection from backers, they choose to draw the line at spending it on settling a lawsuit (or satisfying a court order).

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

CrazyTolradi posted:

Source your quotes

I didn't even make it up. It was a real argument someone linked from Mirificus's reddit dumps

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Golli
Jan 5, 2013



You know if Amazon abandons CIG like a filthy apostate, Intel is sure to swoop in to save the day. Without the OPTANE cash rolling in, Intel is basically destitute.

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