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Good. I'm looking forward to blunderdome. edit: Merry xmas you basterds 
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Ortwin clips through his office.
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C-Bangin' it 
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Jason Sextro posted:Don't sell yourself short - yours is a step up, I'll say Full Burn Warlord Training Fixed that for you.
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Dec 15, 2017 23:27
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Loxbourne posted:My pet theory is that RSI licensed the engine on a long-term contract, possibly rolling renewal-until-specified. One of the IP specialists may be able to describe this with more certainty than I. Some courts will consider a long-term license to be virtually owning something (because you might as well, for most intents and purposes), so they'll treat the licence as a property right. Amazon bought full non-exclusive rights to the engine for, I've heard, between $50-72 million. It should be clear to anyone CIG didn't give CryTek $50+ million.
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Dec 15, 2017 23:27
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/209831044?t=33m29s
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Daztek posted:Development only started two weeks ago, my friend Since time runs backwards if servers are up more than 6 hours, then assuming daily reboots 18 hours of every day at running in reverse. So actually development isn't scheduled to start for approximately 3 years, at which point the time deficit will be erased now that they fixed that bug.
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Dec 15, 2017 23:28
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Beet Wagon posted:Does a space toilet really exist if you can't log in and poop in it? LOL, log
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Dec 15, 2017 23:29
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XK posted:Amazon bought full non-exclusive rights to the engine for, I've heard, between $50-72 million. It should be clear to anyone CIG didn't give CryTek $50+ million. 
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Dec 15, 2017 23:29
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I have doubts Amazon is even aware that CIG is using their engine.
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Dec 15, 2017 23:30
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Scruffpuff posted:Holy poo poo, I think I called something - from Jan. 17th 2017: Post history creepy stalker detected
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Dec 15, 2017 23:34
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Hav posted:Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ElkNcCAhSU - This, but from the viewpoint of CiG. (The Richard Burton bit) The chances of any game coming from Chris are a million to one, he blogged. But still, they fund.
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Dec 15, 2017 23:34
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Don't let Crytek get your money, get a refund.
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Dec 15, 2017 23:41
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From the Polygon comments:quote:Well that verifies the rumour I heard from developers in the UK who are friends of a friend and how CIG/RSI fumbled refactoring for Lumberyard and were struggling to switch over to the new engine with some teams using Lumberyard and some still on Cryengine. Now, given their talk about a big Squadron 42 update coming out I’m curious if the other rumour I heard is true (they screwed up the mocap recording and all of the footage is useless).
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Dec 16, 2017 00:02
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For the armchair lawyers playing at home, which I am one of, regardless of them having the same original code base, CryEngine and Lumberyard are legally completely different engines. The interesting thing here is the switching between two engines which are, code wise, identical (ignoring Lumberyard's modifications). I think this would be less of a mess if they switched from CryEngine to Unity, or Unreal, as that would be a great deal of work. They'd still be on the hook for the engine exclusivity, but there'd be a great deal of effort in the technical aspects of the engine switch. It'd be like if you licensed Hershey's chocolate recipe, then jumped to someone else who had licensed a more liberal usage of the recipe and gave it away for free. You don't have to change your recipe at all, you only have to put a different logo on the wrapper. It's shady as poo poo, and makes me wonder if an injunction against using CryEngine did ever come through, if it would also include a prohibition of the use of CryEngine derivatives.
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Dec 16, 2017 00:04
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Foo Diddley posted:I bet Skadden's really regretting starting this lawsuit now that people all over the internet have pointed out all these things they didn't think of On a serious note, SC backers can be forgiven for getting too used to CIG's new and exciting paradigm where you not only fund the company, but also send them food, do their QA, file bug reports, and occasionally provide full on development support with fixes and suggestions, all for free. Some companies, unfortunately, still live in the past where you don't send out half-finished messy pieces of poo poo and expect the community to clean it up for you.
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RubberJohnny posted:From the Polygon comments: My understanding is they can manually salvage it but it would take until the heat death of universe to process all of it. So SQ42 videos are possible, but they'll be short.
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Dec 16, 2017 00:06
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RubberJohnny posted:From the Polygon comments: I wonder if the leaked mocap footage is what they're going to "show", and it's going to be because they literally can't use the mocap data for anything but commercials at this point so they may as well get some value out of it 
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Dec 16, 2017 00:06
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Y'know if I was a "games journalist" I'd be pretty embarrassed that internet warlord Derek Smart has spent years chasing a story that I should've and it's finally coming to fruition, but I suppose I'll just go back to writing 7/10 reviews.
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Dec 16, 2017 00:07
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:Y'know if I was a "games journalist" I'd be pretty embarrassed that internet warlord Derek Smart has spent years chasing a story that I should've and it's finally coming to fruition, but I suppose I'll just go back to writing 7/10 reviews. The new meta is 6/10 unless you can find at least one redeeming quality for the game such as "you can play it" and then it becomes a 9 or a 10
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Dec 16, 2017 00:10
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Terebus posted:Haven't they been working on range based culling for over a year now? Look buddy, they just figured out how to get time moving forwards. It's going to be a few more days.
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Dec 16, 2017 00:13
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:Y'know if I was a "games journalist" I'd be pretty embarrassed 
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:Y'know if I was a "games journalist" I'd be pretty embarrassed that internet warlord Derek Smart has spent years chasing a story that I should've and it's finally coming to fruition, but I suppose I'll just go back to writing 7/10 reviews. You'd be pretty used to it, having been scooped on everything else important in your industry for your entire career.
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Dec 16, 2017 00:16
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Lack of Gravitas posted:This bit is actually true mods! OPSEC! drat, CiG was hoping for "Oh, sorry, our bad, we found the license behind the cushions".
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Dec 16, 2017 00:18
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This made me feel warm and fuzzy all over. Thread saved... but not CIG. There are not enough cute kittens in the world to appease Skadden before they have their blood.
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Dec 16, 2017 00:18
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XK posted:It's shady as poo poo, and makes me wonder if an injunction against using CryEngine did ever come through, if it would also include a prohibition of the use of CryEngine derivatives. One thing to consider is that Lumberyard comes with a _lot_ of tight integrations. Like Gamelift. Which appears to be mandatory. Which means their netcode was always going to be amazon. "(they screwed up the mocap recording and all of the footage is useless)." 
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It would be rather fitting if Crobberts spent the next few years waking up in a wank pod and being unable to get through the door.
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Dec 16, 2017 00:22
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Hav posted:"(they screwed up the mocap recording and all of the footage is useless)." How many times did they gently caress that up by now? 3? 4?
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Dec 16, 2017 00:22
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XK posted:
That will largely depend on the judgement or settlement terms. Depending on how big of an rear end CryTek wants to be about it. It very well could end up that CIG would not be allowed to use any of the modifications they did for Cry Engine. That even if they started out with a clean install of Lumberyard they'd have to start from scratch as any code they developed under the Cry Engine license and tried to copy over could be infringement.
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Dec 16, 2017 00:24
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I always love when somebody says “I just know those dirty goons and Derek are lying... I’m going to just do a little tiny bit of research here to prove them wrong and- oh my loving god.”
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Dec 16, 2017 00:25
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XK posted:For the armchair lawyers playing at home, which I am one of, regardless of them having the same original code base, CryEngine and Lumberyard are legally completely different engines. Had Crytek even begun discussing sale of their engine code to Amazon when they inked the deal with CIG?
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Tank Boy Ken posted:How many times did they gently caress that up by now? 3? 4? To be fair, I think they're separate tracks of fuckup running in parallel, and they've had issues with everything apart from selling poo poo they don't have yet. SpaceCurtisLeMay posted:That will largely depend on the judgement or settlement terms. Depending on how big of an rear end CryTek wants to be about it. It very well could end up that CIG would not be allowed to use any of the modifications they did for Cry Engine. That even if they started out with a clean install of Lumberyard they'd have to start from scratch as any code they developed under the Cry Engine license and tried to copy over could be infringement. I still think that Amazon will have an indemnity against Crytek suddenly attempting to take their bat and ball home. If nothing else, they're a crunchy morsel. monkeytek posted:Had Crytek even begun discussing sale of their engine code to Amazon when they inked the deal with CIG? We don't know, that's the kind of thing that remains under wraps until someone stops paying their wedge and answering the phone. I doubt it'll come out in this either, as the scope is fairly narrow.
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monkeytek posted:Had Crytek even begun discussing sale of their engine code to Amazon when they inked the deal with CIG? Highly doubtful. The CIG GLA was 2012ish. Amazon was 3+ years later.
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Milky Moor posted:So, I just heard something about the Star Citizen stuff at the 2014 Aus PAX. I can't verify this but I have no reason to assume it's based on lies. What was interesting is I don't think this has been ever mentioned there. You’ve got to be lying or have been lied to. I know they are scum balls and probably did tinker with professional porn stuff, but I can’t imagine this happening in a video game unveiling event.
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:Y'know if I was a "games journalist" I'd be pretty embarrassed that internet warlord Derek Smart has spent years chasing a story that I should've and it's finally coming to fruition, but I suppose I'll just go back to writing 7/10 reviews. They’re not journalists, they’re an asset to game publisher PR. Now they’re cutting games journos out of the picture entirely and focusing on that sweet sweet Youtuber/Streamer dollar since they don’t have to go through ethics training or anything
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:Y'know if I was a "games journalist" I'd be pretty embarrassed that internet warlord Derek Smart has spent years chasing a story that I should've and it's finally coming to fruition, but I suppose I'll just go back to writing 7/10 reviews. I mean, have you seen the new Overwatch skins?!?! Better write a week long series about them. Fumble posted:It would be rather fitting if Crobberts spent the next few years waking up in a wank pod and being unable to get through the door. Hooooooooly poo poo Strangler 42 fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Dec 16, 2017 |
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Hav posted:
It wouldn't be Amazon, it would be any code that CIG produced specifically for CryEngine that was supposed to be passed back up the line to CryTek as per their agreement. CryTek, as part of the injunction, could specific that any such code could not be reused in another engine even if it was compatible. Again depends on how big a dick CryTek wants to be and if they can convince a judge/jury of it.
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is there even a 1% chance that crobble crobble himself will see the inside of a jail cell?
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Bootcha posted:Oh the lawyers outside are frightful
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juggalo baby coffin posted:is there even a 1% chance that crobble crobble himself will see the inside of a jail cell? I mean maybe if he goes on a tour of Alcatraz or something.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:is there even a 1% chance that crobble crobble himself will see the inside of a jail cell? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU1iq9rqYJ0&t=5s
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