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Peewi posted:It's a little frustrating to be one item slot away from 335 power and not get anything for that slot in your powerful gear engrams. At least masterworks seem a little more frequent now that I'm 334 so that's another thing to shoot for when you're near/at power cap.
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DaveKap posted:Welcome to the 3 weeks of my life leading up to CoO. And the next three years of your life too.
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Orv posted:And the next three years of your life too.
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I hope next year get us a destiny killer. The Division was almost there, Wildlands was a contender. I am too old to go back to Warframe. I am going to avoid games with loot boxes and all that poo poo. Is going to be hard, maybe I will go back to indie games.
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As if indie games wouldn't put loot boxes into their games if they could
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Dec 21, 2017 11:27
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DaveKap posted:Eh the fatigue is starting to hit and my interest in picking up AssCreed Origins grows stronger. Have you only been playing Destiny since you picked it up?
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Dec 21, 2017 12:16
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Tei posted:I hope next year get us a destiny killer. The Division was almost there, Wildlands was a contender. I am too old to go back to Warframe. The only Destiny killer is Destiny. Blizzard is making an unannounced FPS with vehicles according to their jobs listings page and it very likely isn't going to be OW2 since vehicles clash with the concept of individual character roles and designs. Who knows if it's going to be their answer to Destiny/The Division/Anthem? It's a genre with so much potential yet seems bizarrely unfulfilled. Destiny came out in 2014 yet has very few copycats.
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Dec 21, 2017 12:53
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:The only Destiny killer is Destiny. It came out in 2014 but was only really widely hailed as "good" more recently, and then the immense turmoil and the intensity of peoples passion/hatred for D2 probably scares off some of the less adventurous studios who might be capable. Plus people just aren't making MMOs anymore, or the big studios that might already have. It's pretty much the same Korean CryEngine MMO reskinned with a couple new ideas every couple of years and then a bunch of Western PvP MMOs that have been in development forever and a handful of hilariously obvious scams. Orv fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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It's difficult to copycat games like Destiny due to the scale of investment needed. Compare how many AAA MMORPGs are released now compared to the aftermath of WoW, let alone ones that create an original IP. Most of them were flops and cost a fortune, so now publishers are wary of that level of investment. It's also a struggle because FPS + MMO do not mix well. Destiny resorts to P2P hosting, massively narrowing player counts in anything but hub areas because it's takes far more resources to provide a reasonable FPS experience than an RPG one, which makes it a more daunting prospect. If it hasn't been heard about in advance, I'd be surprised to be blindsided by a Destiny killer game from a smaller studio. It's just so much easier to release a constrained multiplayer game with RPG elements. Look how popular PUBG is and imagine how much cheaper that was to create than Destiny.
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They already have the framework for a great FPS built in Overwatch. If they use the same engine all they need to do is tailor the RPG elements around that. I really hope they aren't working on a competitor to PUBG. That genre does absolutely nothing for me. I convince myself each time that a great Battle Royale game will grab me, and then after a handful of games I just give up because it's not fun.
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Dec 21, 2017 13:24
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nickhimself posted:They already have the framework for a great FPS built in Overwatch. Ehhhhh.
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speaking of grenades can i just mention how frustrating it is that sticky grenades in this game do approximately a farts worth of damage in pvp i get that it's probably meant to balance out the fact that they'll home in on a target from a mile away to actually stick to them, but you're already sacrificing stuff like a big aoe or the multiple explosions of a pulse grenade, it's very frustrating that the grenade type that's supposed to be specialized for doing a lot of damage to a single target does about as much as a single handcannon shot
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Dec 21, 2017 14:12
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nickhimself posted:They already have the framework for a great FPS built in Overwatch. What is great about OW is the positioning and use of skills. Is more a skill based action-RPG than a shooter. If you pay attention, characters like soldier or DVa shooting are really simple. In the case of DVa it can't be more simple: infinite ammo, don't need to reload, no ADS. Soldier not being able to ADS is kind of weird, it feels like a character than in a different game would ADS.
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Cowcaster posted:speaking of grenades can i just mention how frustrating it is that sticky grenades in this game do approximately a farts worth of damage in pvp They used to be a guaranteed one shot, and like most returning things in Destiny 2 they way overshot the balance on them.
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actually come to think of it the fact that only a sparse few grenade types are legitimately capable of killing a target in pvp from full health bugs me a bunch too but i guess that's kind of a counterstrike thing
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Tei posted:What is great about OW is the positioning and use of skills. Is more a skill based action-RPG than a shooter. If you pay attention, characters like soldier or DVa shooting are really simple. In the case of DVa it can't be more simple: infinite ammo, don't need to reload, no ADS. Soldier not being able to ADS is kind of weird, it feels like a character than in a different game would ADS. That's fine. The whole feel of the first person shooter experience in the game is very solid. You can always tailor things like ADS and whatnot. But the feel of the game is spot on. They have pretty much every type of shooting you'd want from a game. They can put it all into the guns instead of the characters, make a really detailed and beautiful world, then let us run around and pick the things we enjoy over those we do not. For everything I've thought about Overwatch, "lovely" has been exactly zero of those thoughts. I'd love for Soldier to have ADS. I'd love for more than one character to really grab me. There are a list of improvements, sure. But the game feels extremely professionally put together to me and that's a big deal. Some AAA titles cost 60 bucks and look / feel like an indie devs first game demo in college.
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comparing overwatch and destiny seems very apples and oranges regardless of the fact that "they're both fpses".
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I've picked at the destiny 2 thread every time I've had a couple of minutes standing around in line or whatever, and after over 400 pages of discussion of the game, I have one takeaway norns is hands down the worst poster here
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Cowcaster posted:comparing overwatch and destiny seems very apples and oranges regardless of the fact that "they're both fpses". it's for using overwatch as an example of how easy it would be for blizzard to make a destiny-like game. not to compare the two directly as they are, as if they are the same thing
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Dec 21, 2017 15:04
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nickhimself posted:it's for using overwatch as an example of how easy it would be for blizzard to make a destiny-like game. not to compare the two directly as they are, as if they are the same thing Anywhere from 75 to 95% of the reason I'm still playing Destiny 2 at this point is how good the shooting feels to just do, Overwatch on the other hand has some of the worst shooting feel ever. I can't see it holding up in a non quick match format.
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The Wonder Weapon posted:I've picked at the destiny 2 thread every time I've had a couple of minutes standing around in line or whatever, and after over 400 pages of discussion of the game, I have one takeaway well clearly i need to post more
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The Wonder Weapon posted:I've picked at the destiny 2 thread every time I've had a couple of minutes standing around in line or whatever, and after over 400 pages of discussion of the game, I have one takeaway My historic championship reign has ended? 
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The prospect of a Destiny killer is ... unclear. Looking back, many companies tried and failed to make a action-RPG with shooting mechanics before. Notable titles: Firefall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tQUEeuu21c Global Agenda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyQCQGnPqN4
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The Wonder Weapon posted:I've picked at the destiny 2 thread every time I've had a couple of minutes standing around in line or whatever, and after over 400 pages of discussion of the game, I have one takeaway *curses under breath*
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firefall was a complete company destroying disaster entirely independently of the development of the actual game
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Orv posted:Anywhere from 75 to 95% of the reason I'm still playing Destiny 2 at this point is how good the shooting feels to just do, Overwatch on the other hand has some of the worst shooting feel ever. I can't see it holding up in a non quick match format. I totally agree about how good shooting feels in Destiny. I 100% disagree with your assessment of Overwatch, but that really doesn't matter since we're not the same person who needs to enjoy the same things. Though while I think shooting feels good in Overwatch, something about the game didn't really get me interested in enough to keep playing. I jump in from time to time to play a game or two with my wife, but after I hit a new level or get a couple rounds in I feel like I've played enough for the week or month. I think OW is one of the first games I really really want to love, but can't. Tei posted:The prospect of a Destiny killer is ... unclear. Looking back, many companies tried and failed to make a action-RPG with shooting mechanics before. Didn't this come out around the same time as something else that completely blew up and basically buried this game? edit: CoD MW2 came out in Nov 2009 nickhimself fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:The only Destiny killer is Destiny. Playing both over watch and destiny 2, I keep thinking about this rpg lite co op gameplay but with Overwatch aesthetics, color, and pixarish...joy?, and then I try to imagine what exactly about project titan did they not think was fun?
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Hugh G. Rectum posted:If you want to swap it around I highly recommend Vigilance Wing, basically a kinetic version of Darkest Before. I just got this last night and played some crucibles. Holy poo poo this was a beast in the match. Got a 15 kill streak with it in the first game.
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I remember when CoDBlops3 was supposed to be a Destiny Killer. Then that season at Acitivision ended, and Infinite Warfare was the new killer. Then that didn’t happen.. ME: Andromeda, too. If a game wants to kill Destiny, they should spend exactly 0 time saying those words, it’s like a curse. E: “jobs at blizzard for mmo with vehicles”  I can’t imagine what that’s for. Waffle House fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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The Wonder Weapon posted:I've picked at the destiny 2 thread every time I've had a couple of minutes standing around in line or whatever, and after over 400 pages of discussion of the game, I have one takeaway gently caress you too
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I am wide open and ready to be mocked for this but frankly Destiny still strikes me as a Borderlands impersonator, so a Destiny killer could just be an actual good new Borderlands game imo God I wish we could get a new, good Borderlands 
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Waffle House posted:I remember when CoDBlops3 was supposed to be a Destiny Killer. Then that season at Acitivision ended, and Infinite Warfare was the new killer. Then that didn’t happen.. ME: Andromeda, too. Destiny needs some competition, that would be good for the game. So Bungie up their game.
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Manky posted:I am wide open and ready to be mocked for this but frankly Destiny still strikes me as a Borderlands impersonator, so a Destiny killer could just be an actual good new Borderlands game imo The problem with this is that there hasn't been a good one before.
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you know, destiny's great and all, but what it really could use is enemies taking about 130x more damage to kill and more jokes about memes
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Tei posted:Destiny needs some competition, that would be good for the game. So Bungie up their game. The Bungie is in a unique community/IP position to set new bold standards with so many eyes on them; currently these eyeholes are open and complaining instead of wowing, though this is human stupidity inaction. Feeling comfortable is not a good plan, especially in this day where every angry person on the internet has minimum 10 sock puppet accounts by which to elaborately bitch through. If things feel sincerely like they’ve plateaud, and the current walls have all been climbed, it is time to find a bigger mountain to top. Shaxx, so wise, would just shake his head and say something about steel always needing sharpening.
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Tei posted:I hope next year get us a destiny killer. The Division was almost there, Wildlands was a contender. I am too old to go back to Warframe. [trying hard to hold back laughter] What about *snrk* anthem?
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Control Volume posted:[trying hard to hold back laughter] What about *snrk* anthem? That game is going to have loot boxes on the character creation screen
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For all the salt, I only hold a handfull of studios in any kind of esteem, and they are: - Kojima - Naughty Dog - Insomniac - Blizzard - Bungie - iD I’m sure I can think of more, but these historically are the folks that I have memories of shipping polished products.
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Control Volume posted:[trying hard to hold back laughter] What about *snrk* anthem? It's gonna be so fuckin' go- nrrrrkzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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