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Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Andrast posted:

I really like the idea of Hector with Bold Fighter. Guaranteed double on both offense and defense with DC seems alright. (imo) It's not that great on normal armors since player phase armors are kind of awkward but on Hector bold fighter wouldn't replace QR.
Glad you made this post, I just went ahead and made it so since I rolled some lovely IV for the Xmas Lissa I got on a lark. Think I'll still stick with Bonfire for now for the accelerated special.

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AverySpecialfriend
Jul 8, 2017

by Hand Knit

cheetah7071 posted:

The trick to defense wins seems to be deploying a dancer but my gimmick defense team doesn't have room for a dancer and a bonus unit

Get one bonus unit win then put your cool team on rotation

AverySpecialfriend
Jul 8, 2017

by Hand Knit
If u aren't showing off ur baddest dudes every week in arena I'll be honest why the gently caress do u even play this game

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME
It's horrible and cheap, but BLyn+ATiki+Ninian+bonus unit is pretty much guarantees a defensive win by midweek. It seems like folk can either stop a glass cannon or an ur-tank but not both at once. Plus there's team comps that flat out can't scratch certain tank builds without eating a special to the face.

I wish there was a way to do friendly matches against your friends' defensive teams, it'd be the best way to get feedback on what works.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...

Washout posted:

Ok who to mulch? And who did I miss that I should be levelling, besides eliwood. Probs need to work on Atiki and Nino.



hello and welcome to clawtopsy's guide to putting everything into a woodchipper

of what you have, the units with uncommon skills are:

Chrom (Aether)
Clair (Hit and Run)
Oscar (Lancebreaker/Double Rally)
Abel (Swordbreaker)
Cadea (Fortify Fliers)
Roy (Triangle Adept)
Inigo (Axebreaker)
Selena (Reposition)
3* Barty (Reposition)



I'm also reccomending you keep Nino, ATiki, Kagero, Lucius, a single Donnel and Erika on account of being Good Civilization. Also keep your faves. If you do this, you will net roughly 10,000 feathers.

thank you for listening, i highly endorse keeping your barracks empty and your faves stuffed full of the downy insides of blendered heroes

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Paola has Goad fliers which is pretty good

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
i reflexively send home any idiots who dare approach me at 3*

exception: hinata, he's worth promoting

scaterry
Sep 12, 2012

Clawtopsy posted:

i reflexively send home any idiots who dare approach me at 3*

exception: hinata, he's worth promoting

Also subaki for that sweet easy qr2

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
i send subaki home if he's not 4*, i loving hated that guy in fates

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
also it's not clear in the image but keep olivia, dancers own

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Clawtopsy posted:

i send subaki home if he's not 4*

That’s hosed up

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
I've sent a bunch of Pallas home but only because I think she's the hero I've pulled the most of, I wouldn't have sent her home at all if I only had 2-3

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



I would keep everything there except for Gaius, Raigh, Est, E: Oboro, and maybe Donnel. If your barracks is actually full, maybe 1 or 2 of the Laslows or something

Elyv fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Dec 22, 2017

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Donnel has Drag Back

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Tae posted:

Donnel has Drag Back

if you could inherit drag back on ranged units i would think donnel is the best but as it stands he's worth 100-300 feathers

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Clawtopsy posted:

i reflexively send home any idiots who dare approach me at 3*

exception: hinata, he's worth promoting

I just realized you recommended sending a Henry home, hosed up

Speaking of which I ran into your doppelganger yesterday, +10 Henry/+10 HHenry/+10SFrederick

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Don't send Stahl home. Swap is very good and I need more of them.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Finally got a christmas unit. Neutral Lissa? Wha, okay. She's getting Distant Counter.

edit: Actually, quick question, does Slaying Axe stack with bold fighter for cooldown?

AzureSkye
Mar 4, 2010
The stuff I can find on the internet claims they stack. Just remember though that bold fighter only applies the countdown on your own turn so while distant counter is still useful, you won't be getting extra credit towards specials.

valuum
Sep 3, 2003
ø

Tired Moritz posted:

Don't send Stahl home. Swap is very good and I need more of them.

I've sent so many Stahls home, now there are none left andCOME BACKS STAHL (wait no I dont really mean that, give me repositions). But yeah dont send them home.

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

Tae posted:

Finally got a christmas unit. Neutral Lissa? Wha, okay. She's getting Distant Counter.

edit: Actually, quick question, does Slaying Axe stack with bold fighter for cooldown?

I believe it does because Killing/Slaying/Hauteclere/Mystletannin just makes the special permanently 1 less charge, the fighter skills make it so you gain 2 charges per [whatever criteria]

valuum
Sep 3, 2003
ø
The stats on Lissa are loving crazy. Even if I had an optimal Hector I'd mulch him into her:



Fury3 and A-level summoner support, but unrefined weapon. Those are disgusting stats.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Lissa's probably my first ever unit where I mulched a valuable unit for her. Handbell+ is probably best on her since she has distant counter (I think +2 mt for her refinery?).

She's going to be the second green in my armor team of Henry/BK/Flier with Guidance. Dunno what to give her C skill. Panic Ploy? Or maybe a -atk ploy.

Roger Explosion
Jan 26, 2006

THAT'S SPECTACULAR.
Oooh fun! I'm going to do this too! Keep in mind, this is me being a bit ruthless, especially with 3* units:

Red = feathers
Yellow = check IVs, keep the good one and feather the rest. If none are good, feather all of them (maybe).
Untouched = keep for skill inheritance/ is a starting unit



A couple of notes:
- I'm only putting yellow around Eliwood because iirc you wanted him for a cav team. Find the best one you got and feather the rest.
- Keep a Chrom around in case you ever want to promote one to give someone Aether, but otherwise you don't need three of him.
- Even if Nino has bad IVs, don't feather her because she's just that good. An Ephraim/Tharja/Nino + bonus unit (or a dancer/BLyn) would be a good core arena team.
- Ditto for Olivia. Get her dancing and she's great! The neutral free version of her is also arguably optimal as well.
- Some of those 3* units like Palla or Florina would be good for skill inheritance when you promote them, but I'm assuming you're trying to get as many feathers as possible so I'd still recommend sending them home. That being said...
- You're low on units that are good for inheriting a special onto others, which is why you might want to hang on to a Palla, Female Corrin or that Beruka if the gatcha is unkind to you in the future. Up to you.
- Actually, check the IVs on that 3* Female Corrin. She might be good too.
- Given you are still in the early game, hold onto a 4* healer perhaps.

quote:

thank you for listening, i highly endorse keeping your barracks empty and your faves stuffed full of the downy insides of blendered heroes
I agree! To borrow from the RTS genre, play tall! I actually think that's a pretty good way to go at the start. Feather any units that don't have good skills to inherit to speed up a good 5* team or two, then play wide. Organize seven or eight decent teams that can reliably take on Arena Assault and Squad Assaults. Once that happens, go back to playing tall and aim for 5* 40+10 multi-merges.

Also, I'm jumping on the Sophia train too. She rocks! I got a -SPD/+ATK version of her and eventually built her into a 5* Raventome+/Tri Adept 3/Bowbreaker 3 BLyn's worst nightmare. I can't wait to try her out in the arena next time her season comes up again. I might even promote another one for a merge to help my arena score.

Roger Explosion fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Dec 23, 2017

Roger Explosion
Jan 26, 2006

THAT'S SPECTACULAR.
poo poo, I knew I'd gently caress something up. Keep Oscar for Lancebreaker.

waddler
Jan 3, 2008

I've tossed by orb stash and some :10bux: chasing Liz, but wound up with three Chroms (+res/-hp, 2x -atk) and a Tharja. Not gonna risk more :10bux: getting a fourth.

One sack is earmarked for Tiki, but who wants the brazen a/d skill? Vantage/Desperation users? Hector? I don't like needing to take damage to activate skills.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
cool i pulled a christmas unit, it's lissa. i wanted mrobin but there were no blues. i guess my account is just predestined to get waifus. but now that i broke my bonus rate, i can stop pulling on this banner

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Summer Tiki havers: which Melon Crusher refine have you gone with, assuming you didn't replace it with a brave axe or whatever the cool kids do to s!tiki these days

mine is -HP/+RES if it helps

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

UHD posted:

Summer Tiki havers: which Melon Crusher refine have you gone with, assuming you didn't replace it with a brave axe or whatever the cool kids do to s!tiki these days

mine is -HP/+RES if it helps

I gave her +atk but I don't really use her much so it was mostly to make her glow on my defense team

Spectral Werewolf
Jun 15, 2006

And if that wasn't funny, there were lots of things that weren't even funnier...

waddler posted:

I've tossed by orb stash and some :10bux: chasing Liz, but wound up with three Chroms (+res/-hp, 2x -atk) and a Tharja. Not gonna risk more :10bux: getting a fourth.

One sack is earmarked for Tiki, but who wants the brazen a/d skill? Vantage/Desperation users? Hector? I don't like needing to take damage to activate skills.

I think Brazen A/D would go well on Black Knight if you don't have steady breath on him or some other enemy phase unit you intend to soak some hits with. Might be okay on units like Eldigan and Valter who have built in fury effects on their weapons.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



UHD posted:

Summer Tiki havers: which Melon Crusher refine have you gone with, assuming you didn't replace it with a brave axe or whatever the cool kids do to s!tiki these days

mine is -HP/+RES if it helps

I haven't yet but I'm probably going to go with def

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
What's the optimal powerlevelling strategy to spend the least stamina going from 1 to 40 right now it's take me my entire stamina pool to get one dude to 40 and that seems way suboptimal.

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014



Use this guide to the warriors map, it's the most efficient method atm.

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.

Washout posted:

What's the optimal powerlevelling strategy to spend the least stamina going from 1 to 40 right now it's take me my entire stamina pool to get one dude to 40 and that seems way suboptimal.

Warriors maps, check the OP. Get a healer and dancer up to speed to make it easier.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
That's normal actually.

Use the special warrior maps. Im sure someone would post a guide.

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.
Guide to warriors maps from last season:

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Emalde posted:

Guide to warriors maps from last season:



Fantastic

Spectral Werewolf
Jun 15, 2006

And if that wasn't funny, there were lots of things that weren't even funnier...
Warriors map 1 normal to 11, warriors map 5 normal to ~22, warriors map 5 hard until you're done. Works for most dudes, but sometimes needs careful movement for dudes with low defense or speed. Usually takes 3-4 warriors 5 hard to hit 40 so overall it's only 40-50 stamina per dude if you don't have any problems.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
I'm probably crazy but Lissa's too spread out for me. Her defenses are great and Bold Fighter guarantees doubles, which is sweet. But because she's competing against Hector and her brother, her 33 ATK almost looks low (which is kinda nuts), she's in a really awkward speed tier, and her HP is only just above average. So on most teams she's basically a Hawkeye/Camilla with the armour movement and most good reds will still slice through her.

Chrom's way more specialised, but his big stat points (HP, ATK, DEF) are lopsided enough that they're really threatening, his RES is solid, and his SPD can be ignored due to Wary Fighter or you can dare to drop it for something else and he'd probably make better use of it either due to his huge damage soak or ATK.

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Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


ApplesandOranges posted:

I'm probably crazy but Lissa's too spread out for me. Her defenses are great and Bold Fighter guarantees doubles, which is sweet. But because she's competing against Hector and her brother, her 33 ATK almost looks low (which is kinda nuts), she's in a really awkward speed tier, and her HP is only just above average. So on most teams she's basically a Hawkeye/Camilla with the armour movement and most good reds will still slice through her.

Chrom's way more specialised, but his big stat points (HP, ATK, DEF) are lopsided enough that they're really threatening, his RES is solid, and his SPD can be ignored due to Wary Fighter or you can dare to drop it for something else and he'd probably make better use of it either due to his huge damage soak or ATK.

I’d like Lissa more with Vengeful fighter instead of bold fighter. Player phase armors just don’t do it for me.

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