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| Verity Lambert |
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30 | 15.31% |
| Barry Letts |
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7 | 3.57% |
| Phillip Hinchcliffe |
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32 | 16.33% |
| John Nathan-Turner |
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6 | 3.06% |
| Russell T Davies |
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33 | 16.84% |
| Steven Moffat |
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50 | 25.51% |
| Chris Chibnall (I am from the future) |
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38 | 19.39% |
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CobiWann posted:drat it, OK. Tennant, Whittaker, ???. David Bradley plays the grumpy corner store guy who... well, if you haven't seen it, you should see it!
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Jan 2, 2018 01:15
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Edward Mass posted:Plus, River was a Moffat character, and I think Chibnall would want to put his own stamp on the show. See Moffat never bringing back Jack Harmless or any of the old companions
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Jan 2, 2018 01:16
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I wonder if they have the balls to have Thirteen kiss a bunch of girls.
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Jan 2, 2018 01:16
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Chibnall was the first to write a televised story with Kate Stewart, right? I think it would be nice to see her, Osgood and Thirteen getting poo poo done.2house2fly posted:Jack Harmless That's a shame, he never hurt anyone.
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Jan 2, 2018 01:18
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Jerusalem posted:David Bradley plays the grumpy corner store guy who... well, if you haven't seen it, you should see it! Oh, him! Forgot about his charatcer!
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Jan 2, 2018 01:21
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I would be okay with Osgood never showing up again either. Kate's cool though.
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Jan 2, 2018 01:21
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Rhyno posted:It has some of Capaldi's finest work in the role but the " does the sunset admire you back" stuff was a bit much. Yeah, but it was worth it just for him mocking her afterwards. "The roots of the sunset?"
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Jan 2, 2018 01:26
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I'll have to check with the stars themselves.
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Jan 2, 2018 01:53
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I also absolutely adore Capaldi's delivery of,"Hello sweetie..." 
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Jan 2, 2018 01:55
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It's worth going back to the Hartnell and Troughton intros from time to time just to watch quite how weird they are
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Jan 2, 2018 02:15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPxYtLV86W4 If that intro doesn't say "you're gonna see some odd stuff tonight" I don't know what does
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Jan 2, 2018 02:17
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MrL_JaKiri posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPxYtLV86W4 God every time I hear it I'm just transported back to my childhood 
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Jan 2, 2018 02:24
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MrL_JaKiri posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPxYtLV86W4 Pff, that just says "Doctor Who" in a pedestrian font. Odd was when the fade-in still said "Doctor Oho."
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Jan 2, 2018 02:47
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2house2fly posted:See Moffat never bringing back Jack Harmless or any of the old companions Moffat wanted to bring back Jack for A Good Man Goes to War but he was unavailable. Plus he brought back Piper for the 50th.
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Jan 2, 2018 02:57
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Jerusalem posted:If they cast Olivia Colman I'm totally on loving board. I’m pumped for Whittaker, but they really missed their chance to cast Coleman as 13 with David Mitchell and Robert Webb as her bumbling idiot companions.
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Jan 2, 2018 03:59
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Edward Mass posted:Plus, River was a Moffat character, and I think Chibnall would want to put his own stamp on the show. Alex Kingston returns in Cyberriver! But don't worry, it's a two-parter and the second part is Rivercide. It is going to be strange having a showrunner who isn't intentionally trolling the fans. Even if Chibnall will probably still be unintentionally trolling the fans.
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Jan 2, 2018 04:49
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It's worth going back to the Hartnell and Troughton intros from time to time just to watch quite how weird they are The first time the Hartnell one plays in particular, it's almost openly "Hang on - this is not some normal TV. Anything can happen in this second episode. We might kill those teachers, you don't know. We don't even know, the writer is kind of hostile and hasn't answered our questions about next week's episode, which we're still filming." Rhyno posted:UH OH RHYNO HATES WOMEN We know.
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Jan 2, 2018 05:04
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFwYwq_wSU8&t=95s
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Jan 2, 2018 05:11
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Bicyclops posted:We don't even know, the writer is kind of hostile and hasn't answered our questions about next week's episode, which we're still filming." I've been reading a biography on Robert Holmes, and writing for the British TV industry in the 60s sound like a loving amazing and terrifying outlaw time. There's a great story about Holmes having lunch with a producer, then the studio calling his agents like a week later saying,"Where is our script?" and they realized Holmes had accidentally been commissioned to write a script without anybody telling him. So they negotiated a higher fee for him, then like 6 weeks later they were getting ready to film and still hadn't gotten the script, and when they finally got hold of him his reaction was,"Oh I decided that script didn't really work so I didn't write it  " and apparently everybody involved was like,"Well, that's fair enough, no problem!"
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Jan 2, 2018 05:30
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Jerusalem posted:I've been reading a biography on Robert Holmes, and writing for the British TV industry in the 60s sound like a loving amazing and terrifying outlaw time. There's a great story about Holmes having lunch with a producer, then the studio calling his agents like a week later saying,"Where is our script?" and they realized Holmes had accidentally been commissioned to write a script without anybody telling him. So they negotiated a higher fee for him, then like 6 weeks later they were getting ready to film and still hadn't gotten the script, and when they finally got hold of him his reaction was,"Oh I decided that script didn't really work so I didn't write it It's funny how often the Wikipedia article for any given Doctor Who episode is something like "This story was originally commissioned to be based on a script by John Smith, but when the Director stormed out of the studio and kicked over the only TARDIS prop on his way out, the new Director decided that the horror elements were too scary for a children's program. Smith could not be found because he'd been preemptively killed by Kamelion, so David Whitaker was called in to make changes, and subsequently all of the lava monsters were cut from episode 3. The monsters would feature in a later story eight years later, although by that time, they were written by Robert Holmes, who removed the implication that they were robot spies from China. Hartnell was on vacation for all four episodes and features only in pre-filmed inserts."
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Jan 2, 2018 05:40
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If we're talking about characters coming back for Chibnall's run, they could technically bring the Simm Master back at some point (probably not right away, but still) - there's enough ambiguity that he could have had offscreen adventures between escaping Gallifrey and getting stranded on that ship. Or at least, have the Master come back in another form - even if you definitively settle on Missy as the final Master, there's always the option for inserting a whole gamut of regenerations after Simm, since after all we don't actually see him regenerate into Missy onscreen as opposed to McGann>Hurt & Hurt>Eccleston (which I think was deliberate on Moffat's part, considering he's the one who took advantage of the McGann-Eccleston gap in the first place). I just want to have him try and diss Thirteen, only for her to tell him that he's going to be a she in her future. Pronouns are...difficult in this situation. Also speaking of themes, am I the only one who thinks that the Day of the Doctor ending theme was the best? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn5U1eJjSxE
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Jan 2, 2018 10:50
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Jerusalem posted:To be fair, he also wrote this: The problem for me is, that it had 4 great episodes I really enjoyed and then a few average ones to finish the series that were too long and then a really bad series 2. And apparently another series I haven't watched. Which overall doesn't fill me with any confidence.
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Jan 2, 2018 11:23
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Kate Stewart and Osgood are both poo poo. Bring back Brigadier Bambera.
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Jan 2, 2018 11:45
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marktheando posted:Kate Stewart and Osgood are both poo poo. Bring back Brigadier Bambera. Bring back
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Jan 2, 2018 13:31
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I just realised the irony of Capaldi's Doctor saying "Never be cruel... always try to be nice and never fail to be kind". The Doctor whose defining feature was insulting everyone he met, even people he was helping.
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Jan 2, 2018 13:42
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Yvonmukluk posted:even if you definitively settle on Missy as the final Master, Quick show of hands; Anyone think Missy is the final master? Anyone at all?
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Jan 2, 2018 13:42
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SiKboy posted:Quick show of hands; Anyone think Missy is the final master? Anyone at all? Nope. Probably like most things Moffat wrote as things that affect the continuity and/or will have a huge effect on The Doctor forever. They'll be as important going forward as the Cartmel Masterplan.
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Jan 2, 2018 16:16
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Yeah it didn’t cross my mind for a second that the Master has been killed off for good. Wouldn’t even be surprised if we saw Missy again.
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Jan 2, 2018 16:32
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Payndz posted:I just realised the irony of Capaldi's Doctor saying "Never be cruel... always try to be nice and never fail to be kind". The Doctor whose defining feature was insulting everyone he met, even people he was helping. No irony there. It's advice to his future self about his own failings/personality - his tendency to call people stupid idiots even while helping them. "Do your best to not be a jerk (like I was) to people, but make sure that you do good deeds no matter what." Which he did, even while being a dick.
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Jan 2, 2018 16:34
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He only really did that in his first series anyway. He mellowed out a lot in series 9, briefly hardening the gently caress up when Clara died, and then in series 10 he was an outright daffy grandpa
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Jan 2, 2018 16:55
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marktheando posted:Yeah it didn’t cross my mind for a second that the Master has been killed off for good. Wouldn’t even be surprised if we saw Missy again. Missy is done, according to Gomez.
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Jan 2, 2018 17:43
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Hi. Wife and I really enjoyed the Christmas episode, plus the Whittaker reveal. That’s my story, thanks for reading.
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Jan 2, 2018 18:06
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In the series finale, Jodie regenerates into a girl, who meets up with an old man in a blue box. She decides to call herself Susan to avoid confusion
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Jan 2, 2018 18:10
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In regards to the Master, no doubt we'll see the character again. Missy very well could be the death of the character but that's not to say she didn't have an infinite amount of regenerations in between her and Simm. Also, the Master is wrong all the time. Just because he says don't bother regenerating don't mean nothing. Hell, another Master after Simm might show up, give Missy a new dose of regeneration juice and BAM more Masters.
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Jan 2, 2018 18:14
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They can just have giant spider Master show up, it's fine
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Jan 2, 2018 18:15
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This is a show that had a war that ended in double genocide and resulted in neither race being actually dead.
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Jan 2, 2018 18:16
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Speculating about the logistics of how the Master shows up again seems like a pointless exercise. Some episode, probably years from now, a looming sinister villain will reveal themselves to have actually been the Master the whole time, and it will be a lot of fun, and there might be one or two lines of dialog acknowledging how incredible it is that the Master isn't dead before getting on with whatever the sinister plot was. Though, actually thinking through that scenario, the issue Gomez's Master's departure leaves isn't the finality of her death, it's the fact that she's plausibly not totally evil. That's going to make future Master appearances awkward. If the Master goes back to being a mustache twirling villain then it kinda undercuts Gomez's arc, but if the Master isn't that, then what are they? Maybe a future incarnation could be set up as a rival, rather than a straight up villain. They could go around trying to do good, but being uncomfortably brutal or utilitarian or something, to contrast with the idealistic Doctor. Of course they could just as easily handwave both issues away with something like "only the evil in the Master survived by becoming a CG snake." Let the "good" Master die, and have an evil shadow of the Master stick around to fit expectations.
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Jan 2, 2018 18:36
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Solution: bring back the valeyard instead
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Jan 2, 2018 18:47
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I mean, Missy wasn't just mustache-twirling evil either, not the way Harry or Crispy was. A post-Missy incarnation could have any number of roles. I'd borrow a page or two from UNIT: Dominion, myself...
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Jan 2, 2018 18:49
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Eiba posted:Maybe a future incarnation could be set up as a rival, rather than a straight up villain. They could go around trying to do good, but being uncomfortably brutal or utilitarian or something, to contrast with the idealistic Doctor.
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