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JaySB posted:Trap the arm instead for an inverted triangle I do this too, if only to keep it "judo" legal. I also like pushing the wrist of the triangled arm across their torso for a kimura-like sub.
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Neon Belly posted:My once-a-month sub tends to be a kimura. The grip itself lends itself to wonderful controls and positions. Mine tends to be the d'arce. I usually get it from countering bad single legs. Anyone else have subs they are good at, but they only rarely come up in sparring? I know it's a good day when I hit a rare (for me, anyway) sub.
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Drewjitsu posted:Mine tends to be the d'arce. I usually get it from countering bad single legs. Rear-naked. It's hands down, and by a wide margin, my best and most dangerous sub. I'm proud of my back control abilities and at my ability to finish it. But I hardly get any of them! Against white belts I am typically able to finish them from other positions before getting to the back or before securing back control. Meanwhile, the better guys at my club know about it, and they make sure I rarely get into a position to even think about locking one up. There are multiple guys who I've never finished even once in regular sparring who I finish regularly if we drill starting from the back.
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CommonShore posted:(FWIW it's the exact arm bar that Matt Hughes got on GSP in their first match.) Press that motherfucker into their hip and directly upwards. When they try to get around your head they’ll fall over and you’ll have north south with a kimura grip. The only time it fails me is if my initial kimura grip is weak, so make sure it’s solid before they get around your legs.
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:Press that motherfucker into their hip and directly upwards. When they try to get around your head they’ll fall over and you’ll have north south with a kimura grip. The only time it fails me is if my initial kimura grip is weak, so make sure it’s solid before they get around your legs. This conversation has made me resolve just to just try it on these guys over and over again until it either works or until my arm breaks.
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I like that transition too, and will usually allow people to pass my half guard if I've got the grip just to hit that sweep. I definitely really have to focus on pushing the trapped wrist into their hips/lower abs or risk losing the position. There's also the slick armbar if they try to pull up and away.
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I'm determined to spend 2018 becoming a kimura god-king. It's so versatile and I love leading people into a maze where I have a knowledge advantage. Jan-Apr: Tighten up fundamental finishes and positional controls (Fabio Holanda DVD/David Avellan DVD/Youtube/My own coach, willingly) May-Aug: Incorporate more wacky entries and floating in-between positions (Vagner Rocha DVD/David Avellan DVD/Youtube/My own coach, begrudgingly) Sep-Dec: Invest more time into counter-counter kimuras (Youtube/My own coach, approving but suspicious) Hopefully at the end my training partners will be so afraid of recounters that they just give up on kimuras altogether.
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EBI 16 was announced to be May 5 in Las Vegas! Featuring Beatriz Mesquita (Black belt IBJJF World Champion), Elvira karppinen (Brown belt IBJJF Nogi World Champion) and Raquel Pa'aluhi Canuto (Black belt IBJJF Nogi World Champion).
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heeebrew posted:EBI 16 was announced to be May 5 in Las Vegas! Featuring Beatriz Mesquita (Black belt IBJJF World Champion), Elvira karppinen (Brown belt IBJJF Nogi World Champion) and Raquel Pa'aluhi Canuto (Black belt IBJJF Nogi World Champion). I don't see anything online. But I'm with it.
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JaySB posted:For those that haven't seen the Lachlan Giles video: this is the most influential and effective youtube clip i've ever watched. it just clicks with me and i've had success i have no business having with it.
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I dove into the kimura on the better of the two guys last night and was able to play the position for a bit. I avoided the arm bar entirely (he only mounted me  ). I learned that what he does is somehow move his body behind his hand so his hand is no longer on his hip, rather it's in his abdomen. He also seemed to be pulling back a bit to take tension off of the key lock frame.
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Is there a good way to pass lasso/spider guard from combat base instead of standing?
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KildarX posted:Is there a good way to pass lasso/spider guard from combat base instead of standing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYf96-8yiW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwpk8obMtkE&t=213s JaySB fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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CommonShore posted:I learned that what he does is somehow move his body behind his hand so his hand is no longer on his hip, rather it's in his abdomen. He also seemed to be pulling back a bit to take tension off of the key lock frame. This is beyond my experience, but I'll experiment with it when my gym re-opens and see if I can think of anything.
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Newest goal - stop having one arm in, one arm out and getting triangled constantly
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starkebn posted:Newest goal - stop having one arm in, one arm out and getting triangled constantly
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Same actually. Need to stop sacrificing my floppy arms.
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Anyone want to share some of these triangle escapes?
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Personally I’ve had by far the most success with this one, from Rener & Ryron Gracie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR2rS2dwpNY I’m definitely open to other suggestions though!
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Yuns posted:I have really good triangle escapes so I am way too used to loving around with one arm in and one arm out baiting triangles. I need to stop doing that. Same. But the difference for me is I'm mostly rolling against blue belts, so when a new brown belt who attacks like Ryan Hall moved to town I started tapping to triangles every day, becuase my escapes which work on everyone else don't work on him. It's the foundation of my new "don't rely on techniques which rely on people sucking at jits" philosophy.
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RIP Dave Jacobs. Learned a ton from him and the community will be less without him :'(
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Anyone got gym recommendations in the tacoma/Olympia Washington area. Gonna be in the area a few times this year and would like to go train some with new people.
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Grace Baiting posted:Personally I’ve had by far the most success with this one, from Rener & Ryron Gracie: My go to is this or the roger gracie escape if my arms are on the opposite side. I'm generally hosed if I can't get both arms to one side though.
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Tried an MMA class for the first time ever this weekend. I've done plenty of striking and grappling separately in the past, but I've never done a workout where we put them together. I learned... 1) How awkward MMA gloves make things like pummeling and wrapping the neck. 2) How exhausting it can be to hand fight against a decent wrestler who has top position on you when strikes are involved. 3) How ridiculously vulnerable boxing-style striking patterns makes you to a takedown. 4) How laughably easy it is to control someone from mount and beat them up against the fence (i.e. I have a new appreciation for fighters who escape those positions). It was super fun. I'm going to keep going, mostly just to be another body in the gym for my friends who are training to take fights.
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CommonShore posted:3) How ridiculously vulnerable boxing-style striking patterns makes you to a takedown.
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Siivola posted:I've heard people on the Internet say a trad karate -style long stance makes it easier to defend takedowns, C/D? Well a long stance makes it basically impossible to hit you with a double, so you know that if your opponent shoots it's for a single, and that simplifies defending. Really the challenge I found is more about weight distribution than stance in that sense. If I'm planted to throw three or four punches, I can't sprawl effectively, and my hands are too high to stuff the head.
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Siivola posted:I've heard people on the Internet say a trad karate -style long stance makes it easier to defend takedowns, C/D? Sure, wider stance and not being lead leg heavy makes you harder to take down
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CommonShore posted:Well a long stance makes it basically impossible to hit you with a double, so you know that if your opponent shoots it's for a single, and that simplifies defending.
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Cool D'arce setups from bottom side control: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNb56QFmGs
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Hey CommonShore, how'd they change judo rules this season? Looks like waza-ari went back to half an ippon, but any other changes?
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I realy need to learn no-gi submissions. Everything I'm good at is based around a collar choke
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vaginal facsimile posted:I realy need to learn no-gi submissions. Everything I'm good at is based around a collar choke Same but reverse. I keep getting hosed up with collar chokes.
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Siivola posted:Hey CommonShore, how'd they change judo rules this season? Looks like waza-ari went back to half an ippon, but any other changes? Slight changes to the shidos, 3 instead of 4 I think. Also minor changes to the leg grab rule, I think first leg grab is a shido, 2nd is DQ? Changes to gripping rules. Pistol grip is ok. Cross grip and belt grips are back, but you still can't use them purely defensively. I think they shortened the osaekomi times by 5 seconds as well. Though I can't really remember if those are the new rules or the changes from last time.
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Pistol grip is back in judo? That's crazy.
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Off the top of my head... 2 wazaari rule is back Irregular grips are back to immediate attack or penalty, instead of a "reasonable" grace period Leg grab is just a regular shido Golden score tiebreaker rules have been changed as to not consider shidos at all anymore. I should have better internalized these. I'll look up the official sheet and if there's anything I've forgotten I'll add it to the list.
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ihop posted:Slight changes to the shidos, 3 instead of 4 I think. Also minor changes to the leg grab rule, I think first leg grab is a shido, 2nd is DQ? Changes to gripping rules. Pistol grip is ok. Cross grip and belt grips are back, but you still can't use them purely defensively. I think they shortened the osaekomi times by 5 seconds as well. Though I can't really remember if those are the new rules or the changes from last time. Those were the changes from 2016. They've been updated again as of Jan 1.
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vaginal facsimile posted:I realy need to learn no-gi submissions. Everything I'm good at is based around a collar choke The kimura is your friend, quite possibly your best friend.
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This was a relatively interesting analysis of the DDS leg lock game. The text over the video makes it really hard to watch but I think it's good info. I ended up watching a 2nd time and pausing for every new frame basically. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH0lWxwNi84&t=3s
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vaginal facsimile posted:I realy need to learn no-gi submissions. Everything I'm good at is based around a collar choke guillotines are also incredible
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JaySB posted:The kimura is your friend, quite possibly your best friend. It's Kimura Month at my gym, and I keep getting flashbacks to all of the times when I *could* have used these cool setups while rolling however long ago, except now everyone else knows to look out for those setups.
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