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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Watercooler noob checking in.
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I'm pondering a wall-mount PC type of setup. Are there any good "cases" out there premade for this or is that still more of a DIY niche these days?
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Jan 5, 2018 17:55
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Deuce posted:I'm pondering a wall-mount PC type of setup. Are there any good "cases" out there premade for this or is that still more of a DIY niche these days? Thermaltake Core p5
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Jan 5, 2018 18:17
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Don Lapre posted:Thermaltake Core p5 A case with a VESA mount! Now I've got a really stupid idea about putting a dual monitor mount up but with a computer floating on one of the arms.
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Jan 6, 2018 21:05
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Got some spare parts from my last build up in SA Mart, if anyone is looking. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3847257 I'll post a picture of the build once I get every last speck of dust off the Meshify's glass side panel for a good shot.
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Jan 24, 2018 08:16
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Decided to custom watercool server since I use it for media stuff and want to overclock it. I use a monsta 360 in main build and that thing has noice heat dissipation, but in my server chassis I only have useable space for an 80mm rad, was thinking the alphacool xt45 160 for it. Would it be able to give solid overclocks on a ryzen 1700? It's no xeon so my thought is it should be alright for a pretty good overclock. Will have proper airflow as well, have two intakes blowing in good direction, just runs over 8 hdds before hitting the rad.
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Jan 29, 2018 08:42
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A single 120mm radiator on my H50 only kept my OC'd 2600k to around the 60s. An 80mm....isn't much.
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Jan 29, 2018 15:55
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Go big or go home. Note, the radiator, pump and reservoir do not *have* to be inside the case. Especially for a server system with 8 hard drives that is presumably kept somewhere out of sight so it doesn't matter if it is a little ugly.
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Jan 29, 2018 23:49
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Jan 29, 2018 23:54
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Man I so wanted a Reserator back in the day. Too bad it sucked.
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Jan 30, 2018 00:00
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I have a disturbing desire to build a water-cooled ITX system in a tiny case with an external, quick-detachable radiator.
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Jan 30, 2018 00:01
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PerrineClostermann posted:I have a disturbing desire to build a water-cooled ITX system in a tiny case with an external, quick-detachable radiator. I wanted to do that, with an innovakonvekt mounted on the side.
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Jan 30, 2018 00:18
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quote:Go big or go home.
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Jan 30, 2018 01:44
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On the same vein, I used to like cramming everything into tiny itx cases like a Tetris Swiss watch, but after a few upgrades that became a giant pain in the balls as well. So I'm back to ATX and not dreading swapping out ram or something. But some of those itx cases are so cute.....
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Jan 30, 2018 15:04
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I bought a Fractal Design Nano S for my current PC. It's nice and roomy for an ITX case without being too big.
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Jan 30, 2018 15:24
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I have my Enthoo Evolv ITX ready for build and I'm gonna make it work gosh darn it. 
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Jan 30, 2018 16:26
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Indiana_Krom posted:Go big or go home. Unfortunately I can't drill holes in the top (which I did for a custom bracket in my personal rig but can't in current situation) so essentially, I'll just have to see when I have it apart in the next week what I can do with the front, if I can retrofit one infront of the hdd bay, since they run at 25 degrees 80 percent load on fans. Or maybe I'll use the gpu support bracket and weld corner brackets on it and just do a dual rad. Case is a rosewill rsv-r4000. If anyone has suggestions let me know. Still have until the weekend before I truly brainstorm.
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Jan 31, 2018 08:54
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What are my options for throwing an AIO on a Vega 64? The Alphacool NexXxos GPX - AMD RX Vega M01 looks nice, I just pair this up with one of their >120mm radiators? and a hose that fits yeah? 240/360 seems like overkill, but that seems to be required if you really want to keep HBM at 1200mhz
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Feb 5, 2018 13:49
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New Zealand can eat me posted:What are my options for throwing an AIO on a Vega 64? The block you've linked is just a waterblock, I believe their GPX Pro line are the ones with the pumps. If you're going to spend that much I'd wonder if it is worth just going for a proper custom loop. The much probably better option for closed loop is a NZXT G10/12 and any Asetek AIO, should be substantially cheaper and not much worse. Going for a custom loop lets you cool your CPU and gives you much more flexibility for expansion and part selection. Worst case you can go for an EK A240R aluminium kit for around the same cost.
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Feb 5, 2018 15:37
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Ahh I see now, thanks. Wasn't awake yet when I decided I wanted to do this. The product descriptions leave a bit to be desired. I suppose this would be the one I wanted. I already have a 240mm Corsair AIO in this Crystal 570x that doesn't actually fit (even though they will tell you it does). Have been running it with just one fan, not nearly as much of a compromise as expected I was trying to avoid doing this to "just" an 1800X system, but I'm still waiting for a X399 Motherboard I like and a Monoblock to go with it. This will be good practice. I really really want to do hard lines but this seems quite a bit easier How about this instead: EK-FB GA AX370 Gaming RGB Monoblock - Nickel EK-FC Radeon Vega - Nickel EK-FC Radeon Vega Backplate - Nickel EK-CoolStream CE 420 (Triple) EK-XTOP Revo D5 PWM - Plexi (incl. sleeved pump) EK-RES X3 110 EK-DuraClear 11,1/15,9mm x2 EK-CryoFuel Clear Premix 900 mL x2 EK-ACF Fitting 12/16mm - White x8 LED 3mm Twin Ultra UV x2 (For GPU block) Comes out to ~$720 with my guesstimates for fittings/tube/premix. I know this is extremely unrealistic but I would like to make one order and not need to buy and wait for other poo poo What I think I need to figure out: - Are dual pumps worth it? It seems like you get ~1.8x head pressure and flow rate, along with redundancy. It seems like monoblocks benefit more from this - Is that reservoir big enough? I kind of want a huge one because they look cool and I have space - How many fittings do I need? (My first guess is 8) - What is the difference between 10/16 and 12/16 tubing? Is that the thickness of the tube wall?? Which one do I want - How much tubing will I need? - Are scissors enough to cut this? - How much premix do I need? I think I'm going to go with clear. Is there a reason they don't have milky white? Is there an additive to make it glow in the dark or be UV reactive? Yes I'm 12 - Are the included EK-TIM Ectotherm / Thermal Pads good enough? I'm sure I've forgotten a few things. Does everyone in here really flush every 6 months? I see a lot of people getting away with 12 I already have the fans I need for either a push or push/pull setup. I'll probably use 6 because I love fan noise. I'd also like to get nice looking power cables while I've got everything disassembled. This box has an AX860i. I'd like both white cables and white fittings if possible 💅
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Feb 5, 2018 18:11
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I run a CPU + GPU loop off of a single pump and don't really see a need for a second. My pump is honestly a little on the weaker side, they don't sell this one on its own. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-kit-l360-r2-0 I tossed in another EKWB 240 radiator and just their 1070 block, no backplate. Reservoirs can be as big as you want, they're mostly for looks. Once you have a small one, you don't really need more. They do make it easier to fill the loop without running the pump dry, though. You need 2 fittings for each device in the loop, plus fittings for any other thing you do to the loop. If you have two radiators, a pump/res combo, a CPU block, and a GPU block like me, that's 10 fittings. If I add in a drain valve, that's another fitting or two, depending on how I do it. This assumes you're building a serial loop (build a serial loop, parallel doesn't give you any real benefits). 10/16 and 12/16 refer to the inner diameter/outer diameter of the tubing. You need fittings that match your tubing and vice versa. These measurements from EKWB are in millimeters, and my kit used 10/16. 10/16 is equivalent to 3/8" x 5/8" tubing, iirc, if you needed to know both imperial and metric. The amount of tubing you need varies based on the routing you do, but I found that 10ft/3m is enough for 2 radiators, pump/res, and two blocks. Depending on your confidence and needs, you may want to get more just in case. Scissors (or shears, anyway) are enough to cut through most of this soft tubing. EK Coolant concentrate is enough to fill my loop with a little left over. There are additives and all sorts of fancy coolants if you want to be a kid again. I've been eyeing Primochill Vue The included thermal paste isn't the world's best, but it's more than adequate. Same with the thermal pads.
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Feb 5, 2018 18:35
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The "threads" are listed as G1/4 on all of the items, it seems like the fittings are all also G1/4. Where are the measurements for the tubes listed? It's odd they aren't in that same table at the bottom
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Feb 5, 2018 18:54
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Which measurement? Being compression fittings, you just need the appropriate ID and OD for tubing to work with EK's fittings. EK lists their tubes in categories based on dimensions, and most places will have it displayed prominently. Example: https://www.amazon.com/PrimoFlex-Advanced-8in-ID-8in-OD-Tubing/dp/B00A0Q55MC/
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Feb 5, 2018 18:58
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Oh I guess I read your post wrong. When you said "My kit" I thought there were tube size limitations based on the components
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Feb 5, 2018 19:00
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Oh, no. The fittings are entirely what determine which tubes you use. The L360 kit was a pretty good starting point and gave me some degree of confidence when choosing all these parts, though. Just keep in mind EKWB is kind of a more premium manufacturer, as far as pricing goes.
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Feb 5, 2018 19:01
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I'm ok with that. The only real EK horror stories I've seen have been self inflicted, hopefully I'm not next heh How should I route the fill port/drain valve? It would be extremely slick if I could route this and mount it on the back panel somewhere. That's the only side of the computer that isn't glass (other than the bottom)
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Feb 5, 2018 19:16
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For your drain just gotta put it together before tubing and see where things go. I run mine inline with my tubing
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Feb 5, 2018 19:20
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I can highly recommend using angled fittings where it makes sense even if you use soft tubing. It makes routing tubes much easier. e: You can look at my post on the previous page for an example. Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 19:22
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Don Lapre posted:For your drain just gotta put it together before tubing and see where things go. I run mine inline with my tubing In the same case, I have the drain placed in the same spot, plus an extra drain at the bottom of the radiator. (alphacool XT45 480mm). Makes getting fluid out of the radiator much easier. Had to install a fill port on a T-split above the reservoir because my res/pump combo (XSPC D5 Photon) only has one port at the top and that's acting as an inlet. Makes filling a little more annoying.
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That's a good protip re: angled fittings, thank you. I had noticed that it did look very cleanDon Lapre posted:For your drain just gotta put it together before tubing and see where things go. I run mine inline with my tubing  that's gorgeous dude. How do you have the controller mounted in there? I hadn't considered just putting one in there sideways like that. Looked over at this tower like "welp, no drive bays" and that was that I'm assuming the outlet from the GPU block on the bottom is going back to the rad/pump? Is it best to run them like that? I was thinking it would look a little cleaner/tighter if I could do them both on the same side I really like what they did in their guide with the M/M extenders, the 3F splitter, and the ball valve  Can you do custom inserts inside the reservoir? The EK logo is ok but if I could put my own shape in there that'd be fantastic It's looking like multiple orders/shipments is unavoidable  Going to have to fit and route everything first to see if I need more/different angled fittings. I'll have to wait till it gets here, but my plan is to run a fill port from the back of the case towards the top that'd have a downward slope into the top of the res. I think I'll be able to run the splitter off the rad and still have enough downward slope on the way to the back panel In a perfect world I might try to put the ball valve on the outside so that I don't have to take the side off at all when I swap fluid.It's too bad they don't also offer white versions of everything I'm getting in Nickel. That PrimoChill stuff looks neat, it's too bad the only UV they offer is green. I love warm piss as much as the next guy but that's just not my color for this build. Who else can be trusted for additives? I just had an absurd/dumb thought about a build with sea monkeys in the reservoir. They probably don't like PPG too much lol I decided to get the Dual D5 instead. Monoblocks seem to benefit more from the added flow, and anecdotally the people I see with the highest clocked vegas are running dual pumps, so maybe it is important in mitigating that tiny little hotspot. Looks like it cycles all of the water in the system almost twice as fast (which is just a few seconds, right?) My new cart: EK-FB GA AX370 Gaming RGB Monoblock - Nickel EK-FC Radeon Vega - Nickel EK-FC Radeon Vega Backplate - Nickel EK-CoolStream CE 420 (Triple) EK-XTOP Revo Dual D5 PWM Serial - (incl. 2x pump) EK-RES X3 250 Lite EK-UNI Pump Bracket (140mm FAN) Vertical EK-ACF Fitting 10/16mm - White (6-pack) x2 EK-DuraClear 9,5/15,9mm 3M RETAIL x2 EK-CryoFuel Clear Premix 900 mL x2 LED 3mm Twin Ultra UV x2 (For GPU block) EK-AF Angled 2×45° G1/4 Nickel x2 EK-AF T-Splitter 3F G1/4 - Nickel EK-AF Ball Valve (10mm) G1/4 - Nickel EK-AF Extender 20mm M-M G1/4 - Nickel x2 I think that's enough to get things going, order is on the way! I am become ocean man It looks like mod-one does white plugs and sleeves/cables, unless anyone has a better suggestion I think I'm gonna go with them. This level of customization is hilarious, it's like custom computer shoelaces E: Hell yes they do it in 5cm increments, I always wondered how people did this so tidy New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 21:12
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New Zealand can eat me posted:That's a good protip re: angled fittings, thank you. I had noticed that it did look very clean The Core p5 has a number of threaded screw holes all over it. Down there are some that fit an aquaero with a set of caselabs "short-nonconforming" mounts. I just flipped them backwards. They are about $12 i think. Its not rock solid mounted but it isn't gonna sag or anything. My res/pump are one piece so it pumps into the gpu, then into the cpu block, then into the rad and the rad returns to the top of the res. Id buy an alphacool (and probably will) rad if i started over so i have a bottom opening for a radiator drain, i just already had this 480mm. For your GPU you can run top or bottom tubing out as long as one is on the left and one is on the right. The EK insert is just what it comes with. No reason you couldn't cut your own acrylic to make your own. Just use the stock one as a template for the pressure fit part. Deuce posted:In the same case, I have the drain placed in the same spot, plus an extra drain at the bottom of the radiator. (alphacool XT45 480mm). Makes getting fluid out of the radiator much easier. Yep, probably gonna switch to an alphacool 480 so i have a drain port. I just already had this xspc one.
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I'm seriously considering ordering a Bolt X from Digital Storm, and I'm curious if anyone here has experience with their liquid cooling options. For example, are their systems difficult to maintain? Ideally, I'd be holding on to and upgrading this machine over the course of several years. In terms of materials, is copper actually preferable to hardline plastic, or is the difference mainly aesthetic?
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Ersatz posted:I'm seriously considering ordering a Bolt X from Digital Storm, and I'm curious if anyone here has experience with their liquid cooling options. Copper is gonna be a pain in the rear end if you ever need to redo tubes, which you will if you are upgrading it. Honestly unless this is a set it and forget it system, if you want hardline you should DIY because you are gonna need to know how to do it when you upgrade. You also gotta be able to notice if there is a leak, you gotta be able to drain and refill the system.
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Feb 5, 2018 23:11
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New Zealand can eat me posted:That's a good protip re: angled fittings, thank you. I had noticed that it did look very clean Yo I know you've already ordered, but you cannot fit a 420 rad in your case. Absolute maximum in the front is a 360. I'd personally recommend going for a 240 in the top as well so you can run your fans a little slower. If you do go for two rads you'll need to get thin ones, the EK thin rads are garbage so you'll want to go for HWLabs GTS radiators. I'd recommend looking at other builds in your case to get an idea, it's most common to go 360+240 with optionally a 120 in the back. I'm unsure if that pump bracket can take the dual pump top as well.
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I actually didn't because the purchase got flagged and they locked the card, lucky! For some reason I thought the front was 3x140mm fans, but the max is actually 2 for 140. Looks like the XE 360 + 240GTS is the move. The GTS is thin enough that the 2nd fan will still fit above the ram, which is awesome. I like the idea of the 120 at the back, would the idea be to route that between the Monoblock and the GPU?
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New Zealand can eat me posted:I actually didn't because the purchase got flagged and they locked the card, lucky! For some reason I thought the front was 3x140mm fans, but the max is actually 2 for 140. Due to the jet plate, the right port has to be used as input which makes putting the 120 in-between the GPU/CPU a bit clunky. I would go from monoblock output to the rear 120 then up to the 240, but you can try both options once you get all the parts. I'm a big fan of filling every rad space in the case but some people see the extra capacity of a back 120 to be overkill. I think it's merely 'kill. The XE360 is a great rad, but it is ENORMOUS. Make sure to double check that there is enough space. If you are planning to run at low fan speeds (800RPM~), then the XE360 will actually perform worse than a 360GTS. As the XE360 is quite thick and restrictive, it needs high speed fans to actually push through the whole rad and use it to it's full capacity.  At 1300RPM the XE360 is 18w~ ahead, and by 1850RPM it is 70w~ ahead. If you want a radiator that strikes a much better balance, and can deal with a 60mm, the HWLabs SR-2 is thick but low density. It performs like a GTS at low speeds while having greater headroom. I personally think building a custom loop and running 1500RPM+ fans kinda defeats the point, so I tend to lean towards lower restriction radiators. What fans are you intending to use? Currently the Corsair ML fans are best in class, and are quite cheap if you buy 2-packs. You do have to make sure to use them with a true PWM signal, as voltage control will physically damage the fan.
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I didn't realize it, but this case actually has slotted mounts on the bottom of the case for pumps and reservoirs, which is nifty. I have 6xHD120 and 2xHD140s, they top out at 1750rpm. I don't think they're all that loud at that speed, either It looks like the XE in push/pull will be <10mm too deep with the fans for both the pump and the top rad/fans. The GTS 360 seems pretty fantastic from that chart, should I just get one of those to go with the 240 up top? E: I've found one clear UV reactive pre-mix, and it's out of stock any other suggestions? Double edit: Whatever payment processing company EKWB uses, my card company is not a fan. They just blocked it again even though I just spoke to them about this. Is it because they're in Slovenia or some poo poo? Triple edit: Amazon sells the GTS240/360, I'm just going to order those first and see how those fit while I wait to get elaborately scammed by some Slovenian Teens Quad damage: Radiators get here today or tomorrow, everything else arrives on the 15th! Bought a tailor's measuring ribbon or whatever to figure out how long my cable runs are going to be Thanks for all of the help so far, you have collectively prevented me from making several mistakes. I owe you all beers Anything I might want to know about this Black/UV Blue fluid, it looks like it might be tasty to drink.  GTS240/360 showed up today. The 360 fits with push fans even with the thicker Corsair AIO up top. Will have to wait until I break it all down to see how far back I can mount the 240, I might be down a pull fan otherwise. Same goes for the pump/res mount on the bottom, but there's a lot of extra on the PSU shroud I could cut off. Routing is going to be interesting. Didn't realize I could get the UV additive I wanted from Amazon. Got that and a funnel on the way New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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Collateral Damage posted:Man I so wanted a Reserator back in the day. Too bad it sucked. Dude no way. I had a reserator and it was super quiet and did a great job of cooling a cpu and a gpu. What did you hear sucked about it?
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How does watercooling work if the rad has a smaller heat rating than the expected load? EK's custom loop guide shows a 4C difference if I go with just one large rad vs large+small in the back of the case. code:kloa fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Feb 20, 2018 |
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Agrikk posted:Dude no way. I had a reserator and it was super quiet and did a great job of cooling a cpu and a gpu. What did you hear sucked about it? Wondering if anyone tried putting modern blocks on one.
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