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Drunk Nerds posted:Off the top of my head: Homer spoils Empire strikes back, 9 to 5 song plays, Homer sings Girls Just wanna have fun Man yeah I forgot about that but that kinda stuff feels more timeless since it's been in pop culture for much longer than grunge
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I think the main difference is that golden age Simpsons was just funnier so it is easier to forgive dated references.
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Wonder what references they'll use for the "Bart was born in 2004" episode due around this year...
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Jan 6, 2018 03:31
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Thranguy posted:Wonder what references they'll use for the "Bart was born in 2004" episode due around this year... We're living in 2018. Bart would have been born around 2009/2010 now.
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Jan 6, 2018 03:36
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It's JarJar! Remember JarJar? He's back! In fidget spinner form!
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Pastry of the Year posted:DON'T HAVE A CHARLIE HEBDO MAN Pastry of the Year posted:DON'T HAVE A 9/11 MAN He could have a new catchphrase for every episode, at the rate we're going 
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Bet there will be some unfunny Apple related joke.
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poo poo, my last post should have had a 'don't' in there. Sorry.Detective No. 27 posted:We're living in 2018. Bart would have been born around 2009/2010 now. Which is quite odd since the entire Simpsons family has visited the World Trade Center.
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Rirse posted:Bet there will be some unfunny Apple related joke. This reminds me that I just re-watched Homerpalooza and there's a part where Homer references Apple Computers to a teen/20-something CD store employee who has no idea what he's talking about, I think? I'm not even sure I have the context to get this joke. (Yes I know everything in that episode is extremely dated.)
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I like how all the hip and/or cool young bands in that episode are now about as old as the uncool dad rock bands Homer listened to were when it originally aired.
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Jan 6, 2018 06:20
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FreudianSlippers posted:I like how all the hip and/or cool young bands in that episode are now about as old as the uncool dad rock bands Homer listened to were when it originally aired. The one thing the Simpsons does remarkably well is showcase how nostalgia is handled in modern American culture. It's lapped itself for being on the air for so long that a nostalgia comeback may be impossible.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:The one thing the Simpsons does remarkably well is showcase how nostalgia is handled in modern American culture. It's lapped itself for being on the air for so long that a nostalgia comeback may be impossible. I remember watching all of my season 3 DVD as a nostalgia trip when I had strep throat my senior year of high school in 2006. loving A I’m old and how has that not been canceled yet? It’s been reviled longer than anyone liked it. By a while!
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If Disney has a creative bone left in them, they'll reboot Simpsons as a 90s period piece. That's plain how I view them. Seeing flatscreen televisions and iPhones is just so weird and wrong.
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Citizen Kang aged very, very poorly. I remember watching it when it was still current! 
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londonarbuckle posted:This reminds me that I just re-watched Homerpalooza and there's a part where Homer references Apple Computers to a teen/20-something CD store employee who has no idea what he's talking about, I think? I'm not even sure I have the context to get this joke. Apple's whole business strategy in the early 90's revolved around catering exclusively to the educational market and they were relegated to niche status and dying; iirc that episode aired like a few months before they rehired Steve Jobs and announced the iMac.
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Yeah that "Apple Computers" gag is probably one of the worst-aged jokes I can think of. It just plain doesn't work anymore, and won't for like, another century. It's not just about some thing or person being liked/disliked, but literally not known about, and everyone's going to know about Apple for a long time. On the other hand, they got super lucky with that Apple Newton autocorrect gag.
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In the commentary for You Only Move Twice the writers comment that the worst aged joke in the show is when Lisa and Barts new rich school has a web url. The joke at the time was the school was so loaded it had its own web page. Now it's not even a joke.
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RagnarokAngel posted:In the commentary for You Only Move Twice the writers comment that the worst aged joke in the show is when Lisa and Barts new rich school has a web url. The joke at the time was the school was so loaded it had its own web page. Now it's not even a joke. So kind of like how all the kids in Clueless have cell phones?
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I still feel like primary/elementary schools with websites listed on their sign must be tryhard hip/modern nonsense, but then I haven't been outside a school in over ten years so what do I know. "What computers?" doesn't work, but that new ad is trying to make "Apple what?" a thing instead.
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Samuringa posted:He could have a new catchphrase for every episode, at the rate we're going Don't have a covfefe, man!
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Weird to think that the Soviet Olympic boycott and the rise of Supertramp were recent history to audiences at the time. It would be like that Bojack Horseman episode set in 2007 to them. I guess I have to accept the Simpsons and by extension I am old.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:poo poo, my last post should have had a 'don't' in there. Sorry. A joke that aged well: "they put all the jerks in tower one"
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Citizen Kang aged very, very poorly. Yeah, americans would never again vote against their best interest.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Citizen Kang aged very, very poorly. I remember watching it when it was still current! one of us is living in bizarro world because IMO this episode ages better every single election year
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Calaveron posted:Yeah because at least the 80's don't really date themselves that much... Whoa, seriously? The 80's date themselves like a motherfucker. more than the 90's I'd say. You had MTV, neon acid wash everywhere, big poofy hair, Madonna-wannabes, cocaine, crack, spandex, leg warmers, new wave, hair metal, Miami Vice, Reaganonimcs, crack epidemic, AIDS...Springsteen, Prince, Michal Jackson...loving Mr. T and Hulk Hogan. I don't know maybe it's just cause I grew up during that time.
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sassassin posted:I still feel like primary/elementary schools with websites listed on their sign must be tryhard hip/modern nonsense, but then I haven't been outside a school in over ten years so what do I know. Not much. A few years ago I had to update a directory of contact details for all the schools in Aberdeenshire. At the time that was 17 secondary schools and over 130 primary schools. The easiest way to do this was to grab the details from their websites, because they all have one - even the pokey little huts with two classrooms and a roll of 20.
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BiggerBoat posted:Whoa, seriously? The 80's date themselves like a motherfucker. more than the 90's I'd say. The TV show the Goldbergs' whole premise is standard family comedy interspersed with famous 80's events in no linear order. Like one episode will be Hands Across America (1986) another will be the Delorean bankruptcy (1982) and maybe stick in a standing in a yard with a boombox over your head (1989). It's episode after episode of the 80's dating themselves. What really dates the 80's is tape versus film though. Like even cheap TV shows in the 1970's look better than network stuff in the 1980's as everyone flocked to the convenience and crappy dynamic range of magnetic tape. A whole decade of content is never going to look good on Netflix. Jedit posted:Not much. A few years ago I had to update a directory of contact details for all the schools in Aberdeenshire. At the time that was 17 secondary schools and over 130 primary schools. The easiest way to do this was to grab the details from their websites, because they all have one - even the pokey little huts with two classrooms and a roll of 20. Teachers stick homework on their blogs. That's about the most useful aspect of elementary and middle school websites.
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BiggerBoat posted:Whoa, seriously? The 80's date themselves like a motherfucker. more than the 90's I'd say. I meant the Simpsons episodes revolving around being in the 80's but I guess that's more on me since paradoxically I grew up in the 90's watching the 80's Simpsons
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RagnarokAngel posted:In the commentary for You Only Move Twice the writers comment that the worst aged joke in the show is when Lisa and Barts new rich school has a web url. The joke at the time was the school was so loaded it had its own web page. Now it's not even a joke. I always liked the timing on the joke in the Itchy & Scratchy Land ep where one of the waiters is a washed-up John Travolta. The episode aired the same year Pulp Fiction came out.
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Mercury Hat posted:I always liked the timing on the joke in the Itchy & Scratchy Land ep where one of the waiters is a washed-up John Travolta. The episode aired the same year Pulp Fiction came out. I feel like that joke is timeless, despite that poor initial timing. Also one of my favorite quotes: “yea.. looks like...”
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Yeah it still works as a joke, now it's just the absurdity of a major well known actor being a waiter.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Yeah it still works as a joke, now it's just the absurdity of a major well known actor being a waiter. Hey, John Travolta could become a nobody again really easy. He might already be there. Looking over his IMDB credits his last big budget movie was The Taking of Pelham 123 and his last hit may have been hairspray. So like a decade of mostly crap and American Crime Story.
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homer and marge meeting in the 70s/80s didn't age poorly. it just aged. the good seasons of simpsons are just, as happens to any show set in "the present", period pieces now. it's not incongruous for them to have met in a particular time period when the show is taking place in a particular time period too.
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Until I saw the Robert De Niro version of Cape Fear, I didn't realise just how close the Simpsons parody of it was. That's not something that's aged poorly so much as an example of a joke that everyone in 1991/1992 would've gotten about this hugely popular and successful movie that was lost on people like me coming to it years after the fact.
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Krispy Wafer posted:The TV show the Goldbergs' whole premise is standard family comedy interspersed with famous 80's events in no linear order. Like one episode will be Hands Across America (1986) another will be the Delorean bankruptcy (1982) and maybe stick in a standing in a yard with a boombox over your head (1989). It's episode after episode of the 80's dating themselves. There are plenty of seminal events to pull from when you think about it. Live Aid, the Challenger disaster, Iran Contra, the S&L scandal, Reagan's landslide and getting shot, Pan-Am 103, Grenada, Bud Dwyer, the PMRC, Max Headroom, Grenada, the Faulkland Islands, Qadafi and Noriega, Tiananmen Square, Gorbachov and the Cold War... Then there's pop culture poo poo like Nintendo, New Coke, Wrestlemania, Cabbage Patch Kids, Rubiks Cube, Pac-Man, Bon Jovi, Thriller, Purple Rain, NWA, Madonna, Cosby Show, Dallas/Who Shot J.R.?, "Where's the Beef?", Back to the Future, the U.S. Hockey team... 80's are dated as gently caress and more...what's the word...? Iconic? The 90's to me were just kind of there. I think of grunge and Bill Clinton's impeachment but nothing seemed to really define it overall but, like I said, that could just be the difference between me being in my teens as opposed to my 20's. gently caress, I'm old. Krispy Wafer posted:What really dates the 80's is tape versus film though. This is interesting. What do you mean? First thing I thought of with "tape" were The Golden Age of Porn (being able to jack off in the privacy of your home was a loving revolution that should not be understated as far as cultural, social or economic impact) and programing a VCR but you seem to be referencing image quality of TV shows and such. Or the direct to video film market. What's the most popular direct to VHS film of all time I wonder? "Faces of Death" maybe? Speaking of that, 80's porn has aged terribly but really well at the same time. The poofy hair, extreme close ups and cuts to shots of a guy's "O-face" are annoying and hilarious but some of it is still kind of hot and the girls really had to be something else visually to set themselves apart. It's funny to watch them really try and make an actual movie a lot of the time. The ink on everyone's FF button was always rubbed off like an x button on a PS controller. There was a window there where a performer could legit become a "star" of sorts and her picture alone on a box cover could sell movies. I'm thinking of Ginger and Amber Lynn, Traci Lords, Tori Welles and Christy Canyon. Yeah...I used to watch a lot of porn. I still do but I used to too.
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Since we're talking about animation, King of the Hill and Beavis and Butthead still hold up really well. Mike Judge is great. Ren & Stimpy and South Park not so much.
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BiggerBoat posted:This is interesting. What do you mean? First thing I thought of with "tape" were The Golden Age of Porn (being able to jack off in the privacy of your home was a loving revolution that should not be understated as far as cultural, social or economic impact) and programing a VCR but you seem to be referencing image quality of TV shows and such. Or the direct to video film market. What's the most popular direct to VHS film of all time I wonder? "Faces of Death" maybe? Everything up through the 1970's was produced on film and even crappy film can generally be blown up/scanned with varying degrees of quality. For example, I think Sam Rami's first film ever was shot on 16mm and then blown up to 35mm. It looked terrible, but the fact that was even possible is a good indicator of film's versatility. When videotape became a thing it pretty much took over TV since it was much cheaper and easier to use. But videotape doesn't have the same dynamic range as film and can't be blown up as easily. So you end up with a flat and muted look. And yes, that extends to porn. 1970's porn looks infinitely better than 1980's smut.
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