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So if I got a FX-4130 it won't have the boot problems with this patch? Windows Update says KB4056892 is gonna install on my next restart so I'm a little nervous as someone who's hardware-illiterate.
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a medical mystery posted:So if I got a FX-4130 it won't have the boot problems with this patch? Windows Update says KB4056892 is gonna install on my next restart so I'm a little nervous as someone who's hardware-illiterate. Microsoft already halted updates for the affected systems, so if you are being offered updates, it should be OK to proceed with them. You keep everything important backed up anyway, right?
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Yeah I push pretty much everything I do on the computer in question to repositories on-line, and even if those go under it's all hobby stuff and not work stuff so idc. Good to know it's most likely safe though.
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8-bit Miniboss posted:The processors in question were Athlons and Semprons. Not sure why the Verge felt the need to omit that... Marketing names aren't really meaningful, which generations of Athlons and Semprons? Recent ones, or do you mean an Athlon 64 from 2004?
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It's the latter.
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Does this affect my 1.4ghz thunderbird with the screaming fan from 2000? I used that at some point to write an image to a compact flash card. It may not have been in this decade, but it's definitely mission critical!
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Rexxed posted:Does this affect my 1.4ghz thunderbird with the screaming fan from 2000? I used that at some point to write an image to a compact flash card. It may not have been in this decade, but it's definitely mission critical! Better switch to a 486, just to be safe http://yeokhengmeng.com/2018/01/make-the-486-great-again/
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First 2700u benchmarks showing up https://www.notebookcheck.net/First...n.277336.0.html
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Rastor posted:Better switch to a 486, just to be safe They can pry my 68030 from my cold, dead hands.
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Rastor posted:Better switch to a 486, just to be safe I still have a couple of 486 laptops with colors screens and everything. Time to sell them to bitcoiners for "safe" coin storage.
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Rexxed posted:I still have a couple of 486 laptops with colors screens and everything. Time to sell them to bitcoiners for "safe" coin storage. No USB ports to epoxy? It's basically a hardware wallet!
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AMD CPU and Platfrom Discussion: No meltdowns here
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:AMD CPU and Platfrom Discussion: No meltdowns here Yes please 
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So are these new Ryzen desktop CPUs with graphics included going to be made obsolete in three months for Zen+? If I’m running a PC that’s a glorified torrent box that also runs Handbrake a few hours a day, which do I want? I’m thinking the R3 with graphics is looking nice, it if Zen+’s 3 also has graphics then might as well wait.
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Craptacular! posted:So are these new Ryzen desktop CPUs with graphics included going to be made obsolete in three months for Zen+? If I’m running a PC that’s a glorified torrent box that also runs Handbrake a few hours a day, which do I want? zen+ is going to be a 200-300mhz clock speed bump over zen so it's basically the average intel improvement if you need a chip now get it now, otherwise you can continue to play waiting game for a while longer Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jan 10, 2018 |
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I forgot that Zen+ will be rolling out with the 7's first, so the wait for a 3 would probably be a long while. Think I'll just look into Raven Ridge.
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Craptacular! posted:it if Zen+’s 3 also has graphics then might as well wait. I don't think thats gonna happen. Judging by the model numbers, release dates, and what we can guess about Zen+ performance, it seems real likely that the APUs they are launching now will be their integrated graphics options for a long while. If you want integrated graphics, go ahead and get em. If you want to do a box with a discrete graphics card, probably better to wait.
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Given the apparent difficulty in making a Zen mITX board I'm curious to see if we get any Zen APU laptops. I'd definitely be in the market for one if someone pulls it off.
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isndl posted:Given the apparent difficulty in making a Zen mITX board I'm curious to see if we get any Zen APU laptops. I'd definitely be in the market for one if someone pulls it off. You seem to be conflating Zen with Ryzen, which isn't quite 1:1. The name Zen is equivalent to Intel's Kaby Lake, Cannon Lake, Hades Lake, and so forth. Ryzen 3/5/7 appears to correspond to the Core part of Core i3/i5/i7 etc. There are no problems with making Zen ITX boards, as I think every major desktop board manufacturer has one. The thing is that they're all Socket AM4, which is Ryzen 3/5/7. Threadripper boards (read: i9/Extreme), on the other hand, that's where the difficulty lies, due to the monster socket. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 11, 2018 |
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I really, really want to see someone crank a 2200/2400G to it's max (4.2Ghz CPU, 1.7Ghz iGPU, 3600Mhz DDR4), see what power consumption and performance figures end up being. Apparently it's like 50% over stock with overclocking the GPU and 39% with overclocking the RAM to 3600Mhz, and if they're making the claim a 2400G can compete with a GT 1030 then holy poo poo the new APU could be budget kings, especially the 2200G basically making GBS threads on everything within 50$ of it. I think there is room for a 2100G(4C/4T/6CU), 2300G(4C/8T/8CU) and 2500GX(4C/8T/11CU Golden Sample) personally, and Bristol Ridge can stick around but only as sub 75$ solutions (like a 25$ price cut across the board). IMHO AMD still needs sub 100$ answers in the CPU market.
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I kind of get the feeling that Ryzen APUs may already be golden samples or some other high-performing bin to begin with. These are allegedly 1-CCX designs, after all, so they can't rely on a second CCX to bring the usable core count up. And they certainly can't really goose the voltage on APUs to make them stable either, especially not if they're going into notebooks.
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or high-leakage parts unfit to idle at 1.5w
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SwissArmyDruid posted:You seem to be conflating Zen with Ryzen, which isn't quite 1:1. Ah, my bad. I am indeed conflating them, for some reason I was thinking there was more similarity between the two (because they released at roughly the same time?). If there's no difficulties getting the Zen APUs in smaller form factors then the offerings coming out this year ought to be pretty enticing indeed. 
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Wonder if the AMD APUs will spur Intel to release CPUs with Iris Pro 640/650/680 to desktop (lolno).SwissArmyDruid posted:I kind of get the feeling that Ryzen APUs may already be golden samples or some other high-performing bin to begin with. These are allegedly 1-CCX designs, after all, so they can't rely on a second CCX to bring the usable core count up. And they certainly can't really goose the voltage on APUs to make them stable either, especially not if they're going into notebooks. That still means they have room beneath for more SKUs though, such as Athlons and Dual Cores. A 2C/4T 6CU for 55-65$ would just ruin everything but like the Celeron G39X0 in Intel's budget lineup, and locked 4C/4T Athlons in a similar price range would be go tos as well.
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Combined thread when? How fast is a 4ghz 1700 in single thread compared to a 4.5ghz 2600k?
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PerrineClostermann posted:Combined thread when? Roughly the same as Haswell, so 20-25% faster than Sandy Bridge clock for clock.
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Combined thread never, we'd get into way too many loving fights. Let them look down their noses over there, and us laughing our asses off at their continued mismanagement at the C-level over here.
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PerrineClostermann posted:How fast is a 4ghz 1700 in single thread compared to a 4.5ghz 2600k? Depends on what you are doing. For daily use, especially in old games, you won't see much difference in my opinion. May even be a slight regression. 1700 isn't really the thing you want for pure single threaded workloads imo, its value is really in being able to kick all 16 threads into gear.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Combined thread never, we'd get into way too many loving fights. I thought for a long time that the threads being merged would own, but I totally agree with this now.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I thought for a long time that the threads being merged would own, but I totally agree with this now. I mean, of course things are going to go bad posting about AMD in the Intel thread, but there's less reason to be lovely if it's just the CPU thread.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I thought for a long time that the threads being merged would own, but I totally agree with this now. we'd have x86 thunderdome and people being constantly probated like pre-D&D fishmech
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:it would actually legitimately own just not in a productive way Thats..... a good point
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Some people just want to watch the world burn, after all. And ne'er the twain shall meet. vvvvvv April.
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I'm aware that Ryzen refresh is coming in April, but when is it likely we'll get some benchmarks/leaks, etc?
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Thats..... a good point What the gently caress happened to your cat, man? e: Oh, new bad taxidermy! Anarchist Mae fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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Measly Twerp posted:What the gently caress happened to your cat, man?
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Combined thread never, we'd get into way too many loving fights. I can't see it? Intel users seem to be pretty self-aware of the company's failings. Nobody is deluding themselves into thinking they actually like thermal paste or that Meltdown wasn't a big deal. I was an Intel fanboy for ages and particularly in the 2000-2005 period where it really didn't make much sense to be one (at least I jumped on Prescott and Coppermine instead of the launch P3s/P4s), but I've spent most of the past 24 hours trying to find out if the budget Ryzen motherboards are stable and finding that nobody in charge of having tech opinions actually buys them.  Given that I'm looking at a Raven Ridge APU, I guess I should assume none of the motherboards available now will work with it out of the box?
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They may need a BIOS update, which I think requires having a CPU in there already? Nobody will know for sure until they launch. I don’t have much call to look at A320 boards for much of anything - B350 boards allow for overclocking and can be had relatively cheaply (mine for my R7 1700 + GTX 1080 was like $80 - Asus B350 Prime). Hopefully the B350 boards will allow for GPU overclocking on the APU. The last few pages of the Intel thread since Meltdown have been kinda 
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