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Arzachel posted:Pressure in this game is way more similar to BB than GG so the closest you'll probably get is dropping a lockdown assist on their wakeup. I'm very unfamiliar with BB. Anything like Skullgirls? I had quick look back at that over the holiday and remembered how fun Valentine/Parsoul pressure was.
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Natural 20 posted:I'm very unfamiliar with BB. Anything like Skullgirls? I had quick look back at that over the holiday and remembered how fun Valentine/Parsoul pressure was. While DBFZ is a 3v3 fighters like Skullgirls, it isn't really like Skullgirls. Similar to how Skullgirls isn't really like Marvel despite both being 3v3 games. DBFZ is really its own thing. The closest thing to Valentine is that every character has "Dragon Rush", which is a move where they quickly fly across screen (though not as fast as Valentine, and the move automatically homes to your opponent). Beerus has orbs that, I believe, you can set around the stage so if your opponent runs into them they get hurt. Which is sort of like Parasoul's bubbles? The best way to explain the game is that it plays just like Dragon Ball Z. Imagine the most direct way to translate the show's feel into a 2D fighter, and you have Dragon Ball FighterZ. Natural 20 posted:Boo. I need me a kickass character that drops fireballs over a character on the floor. I think Vegeta' assist is when he is up in the air dropping a bunch of projectiles? Either way lots of characters can do this when you control them. punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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Natural 20 posted:Boo. I need me a kickass character that drops fireballs over a character on the floor.
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Jan 15, 2018 13:28
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this game feels closer to melty blood + arcana with assists than anything
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i got like 240k bp and i cant play anymore too exhausted. i fought a guy who's shockingly good and started taking a couple characters off him. he beat nakkiel on stream a few times so he seems p legit and i leanred some sick nappa combos off him. theres some really good mixups if you just get a hard kd and do air dash / fall i saw off some other guy. dude would smash me with vegeta and iad mixups straight out of gg lol reflect doesnt seem to do anything to lows, its super powerful. lows also beat any sort of 4S in a string.
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Jan 15, 2018 13:32
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anime was right posted:i got like 240k bp and i cant play anymore too exhausted. i fought a guy who's shockingly good and started taking a couple characters off him. he beat nakkiel on stream a few times so he seems p legit and i leanred some sick nappa combos off him. theres some really good mixups if you just get a hard kd and do air dash / fall i saw off some other guy. dude would smash me with vegeta and iad mixups straight out of gg lol Help me out here, how fast is dragon rush up close? I didn't see many players going for it in pressure, is it Not Real? also adult gohan is nanaya so melty blood is here and it left the bathroom
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Dias posted:Help me out here, how fast is dragon rush up close? I didn't see many players going for it in pressure, is it Not Real? dragon rush is super weird, if you mash i think you get out of it somehow? and also its reasonably fast up close because there's no travel distance. it still seems bad.
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Jan 15, 2018 14:04
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dragon rush is the only way to snapback right? The only time I've seen anyone use dragon rush is after a vanish wallbounce to snapback
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Jan 15, 2018 14:06
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KyloWinter posted:dragon rush is the only way to snapback right? The only time I've seen anyone use dragon rush is after a vanish wallbounce to snapback yes
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Jan 15, 2018 14:07
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With the amount of blue life you can regenerate snapback seems really important. Also is Nakkiel still playing Gohan on point? I didn't see him streaming yesterdya.
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KyloWinter posted:With the amount of blue life you can regenerate snapback seems really important. matches werent working until around after he stops streaming
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Jan 15, 2018 14:21
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anime was right posted:dragon rush is super weird, if you mash i think you get out of it somehow? and also its reasonably fast up close because there's no travel distance. it still seems bad. Man, why do videogames hate throws nowadays, I just wanna tick throw people.  I'm gonna lab for a weekend when this poo poo comes out, there's so much poo poo I wanna test.
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Jan 15, 2018 14:48
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DBFZ is the first FG in ages that doesn't have classic throws...I can't even think of the last. It was probably some SNES crap. It's a weird design decision
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In Training posted:DBFZ is the first FG in ages that doesn't have classic throws...I can't even think of the last. It was probably some SNES crap. It's a weird design decision P4A had basically the same throw system
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Jan 15, 2018 14:54
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I just found out that if you're in midair recovering from performing 18's level 1, you can still perform her level 1. Stopped me from getting hit by a Gohan Level 3.
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Jan 15, 2018 14:58
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Not that I was expecting any huge reveals or anything but wasn't there supposed to be some kind of announcement today? Coulda sworn I heard that.
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Jan 15, 2018 16:44
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Nnnnnno? There was nothing planned for today.
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Jan 15, 2018 17:07
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Goku's win quotes in this game are the best goddamn
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Jan 15, 2018 17:11
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Mechafunkzilla posted:P4A had basically the same throw system P4A still had regular throws alongside the all out attack
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Yeah P4A had throws for sure
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Jan 15, 2018 17:14
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Did the beta get extended? I thought it was supposed to end at 3am this morning.
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Jan 15, 2018 17:25
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Boy there seems to be a ton of bitching online about auto combos, but they don't seem that big of a deal to me? Am I just being an idiot?
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Monaghan posted:Boy there seems to be a ton of bitching online about auto combos, but they don't seem that big of a deal to me? Am I just being an idiot? they're not a big deal and ppl whining about them are just looking for an excuse to blame why they're bad on something other than themselves.
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Jan 15, 2018 17:31
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Xad posted:Did the beta get extended? I thought it was supposed to end at 3am this morning. No, it was always supposed to go through Monday. They might still extend it though.
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Dragon rush has a green flash during startup that's a tell and you can tech with any attack button. You can combo into it for snapbacks and extensions, though. It seems too early to decide if it's real or not, but free snaps are bananas.
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Jan 15, 2018 17:37
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Broken Loose posted:Dragon rush has a green flash during startup that's a tell and you can tech with any attack button. You can combo into it for snapbacks and extensions, though. It seems too early to decide if it's real or not, but free snaps are bananas. Yeah, I'm surprised they don't cost something, especially with how fast blue life seems to regenerate.
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Monaghan posted:Boy there seems to be a ton of bitching online about auto combos, but they don't seem that big of a deal to me? Am I just being an idiot?
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Chaotic Flame posted:Yeah, I'm surprised they don't cost something, especially with how fast blue life seems to regenerate. I think it's because the dragon rush startup is kinda slow and they probably didn't want another mechanic that ate into a meter.
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There are just some people out there that are looking to poo poo on this game any chance they can get and I can't tell if they're trolling or just mentally unwell
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I saw something about snapping the last character on a team causing a spin state, does anyone has that thing or did my sleep deprivation make me see things?
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Autocombos are balanced. You actually need to land a normal to do them and anyone who can do that is probably already able to do the magic series for more damage. They'd be a problem if you could yolo super dash into autocombo into team hyper combo with 2 buttons
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Looking forward to digging into this tonight if matchmaking is working now. Hopefully, it remains fixed? Hard to get an impression from how it really plays without training mode and any ability to get matches. It feels weirdly clunky running through the tutorials to me, but I think that's just that new game feel. I do hope there's a way to turn off auto combos in the full game however, it's annoying to double tap a button and potentially mess up your combo due to the extra input starting an auto combo.
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I don't see the big deal about the autocombo feature. I mean in MVC3 if you get chained into a combo then it's usually from the first hit anyway, all this game does is take away the need to move your thumb to other buttons sometimes. Doesn't matter because this still has Guilty Gear-esque tech too with the transmissionport, burst, reflects, etc so simplifying a few very basic combos is nice for beginners.
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Monaghan posted:I think it's because the dragon rush startup is kinda slow and they probably didn't want another mechanic that ate into a meter. I posted about this before, but I thought I saw a video where someone could combo into Dragon rush, which I hope would be for most characters. And if that's not the case...then that's also pretty troublesome imo. As for meter, idk if that's rally a good reason, but it's extremely hard to tell when the game is unreleased and we don't know anything about how proper play/meter management will look like. CharlestonJew posted:There are just some people out there that are looking to poo poo on this game any chance they can get and I can't tell if they're trolling or just mentally unwell Tbh I don't really feel like I'm going to enjoy the mechanics of this game. I typically don't enjoy arcsys designs/mechanics, and there's several of them in here that make me wary from what I've read/seen. I'm gonna give the game an honest try when it comes out still, but I don't think we should head down the road of avoiding criticism of this game, cause maybe some people will just not like the game. FYI I also hate mvci so this isn't some dumb capcom-anime tribal poo poo or w/e
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Ventana posted:Tbh I don't really feel like I'm going to enjoy the mechanics of this game. I typically don't enjoy arcsys designs/mechanics, and there's several of them in here that make me wary from what I've read/seen. I'm gonna give the game an honest try when it comes out still, but I don't think we should head down the road of avoiding criticism of this game, cause maybe some people will just not like the game. FYI I also hate mvci so this isn't some dumb capcom-anime tribal poo poo or w/e oh that's totally fine, I was more referring to the people that have a hateful obsession with the game
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There are people that are pissed because they want Xenoverse 3 instead and think it's 'stealing' from it despite being made by a completely different company and also having it been confirmed that Xenoverse 3 is being worked on right now. So, just dumbasses.
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Flytrap posted:There are people that are pissed because they want Xenoverse 3 instead and think it's 'stealing' from it despite being made by a completely different company and also having it been confirmed that Xenoverse 3 is being worked on right now. What a world we live in where a DRAGONBALL Z game is going to get worldwide acclaim and recognition from the biggest fighting game tournaments on the planet, and some of the fanbase still wants to be pissbabies.
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Elvis_Maximus posted:I do hope there's a way to turn off auto combos in the full game however, it's annoying to double tap a button and potentially mess up your combo due to the extra input starting an auto combo. Holding back stops autocombo normals from coming out, it's a non-issue.
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CharlestonJew posted:oh that's totally fine, I was more referring to the people that have a hateful obsession with the game I know that on 4chan there's a discord raid group that shitposted about the game for awhile. Bout the worst I've seen of it honestly.
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Flytrap posted:There are people that are pissed because they want Xenoverse 3 instead and think it's 'stealing' from it despite being made by a completely different company and also having it been confirmed that Xenoverse 3 is being worked on right now. Xenoverse 3 better have a story mode full of What Ifs finally.
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