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Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

Das Doppelganger posted:

Keeping in mind it's a drat phone game I don't even know where to start to bitch about this latest legendary.

This thing eats through my front 6 in no time (High IV Groudons) and catching it is going to be a major pita. It shook out of nearly everything in under a single shake, it doesn't stop moving, and it's WAY back there. Like...you almost need to do straight on tosses to have enough screen to toss deep enough.

I'm sure it'll get figured out like they all do, but....drat.

Stating the obvious here but use electric and grass types. Groudon will always be weak to Kyogre's only fast move, waterfall and two of its charge moves. The only time groudon is worth using against kyogre is when kyogre has thunder and groudon has solar beam.

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Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Raid train today. Wasn't able to do one raid at Sprint because the timer was low and my app wouldn't load. Of course it gave out EX passes....to half the people that raided, all under level 35.

For Thursday at 2pm. Are EX raids just never on weekends? That's when people are mostly raiding!

Das Doppelganger
Dec 22, 2012

Pomplamoose posted:

Stating the obvious here but use electric and grass types. Groudon will always be weak to Kyogre's only fast move, waterfall and two of its charge moves. The only time groudon is worth using against kyogre is when kyogre has thunder and groudon has solar beam.

I admit to letting the game auto select my team, but the Kyogre had Thunder and more than not of my Groudons had Solar Beam.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
The game bases its auto-selects off the moves the Kyogre has, so if it picks Groudon it'll have Thunder, or if it picks Exeggutor it won't have Blizzard.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

EDIT: dammit, misread the comment. Carry on!

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...

Cowslips Warren posted:

For Thursday at 2pm. Are EX raids just never on weekends? That's when people are mostly raiding!

I remember even in here people were bitching about EX raids happening on weekends when it first came out like "I have plans on weekends!" or "I'm out of town on weekends!" and I remember wondering if these people just never work or go to school on weekdays. Weekends at noon were fine because even if you worked weekends, that's when most people have a lunch break and there's a plausible chance to go to them. But now we're at the whims of the random rear end Niantic data collection thinking people raid during "popular times" rather than "whenever there's worthwhile legendary raids that pop up at not-lovely locations" and the difference between weekdays and weekends aren't taken into consideration either. It's like cool, a lot of people did raids during the morning a lot on weekends, let's make the EX raid happen around that time but on a Tuesday! :psylon:

I really hope when it gets to summer again Niantic will open raid times back up to ~8pm so maybe even EX raids might happen during after work hours.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

Julio Cruz posted:

The game bases its auto-selects off the moves the Kyogre has, so if it picks Groudon it'll have Thunder, or if it picks Exeggutor it won't have Blizzard.

Gymhuntr shows raid boss move sets now so if you want to go in fully prepared you can check that beforehand.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013
Kyogre is incredibly easy to catch if you have an IPhone with AR. Just toggle it on, search him out and get in his face. It also gives you the expert handler boost, which I believe adds a minor boost to catch rate?
The only downside is that there is a chance that he'll go crazy. So far I've done 4 raids, caught 3. The only one I didn't was the one that went crazy.


New Exraid passes went out. I was at both raids that triggered it and didn't get any.
I suppose it could be worse, I could be the guy who has 600 raids has been present at all 6 of the raids that have triggered exraids in our neighbourhood and still hasn't received a pass.

The ExRaid "system" is still a broken mess and is actively discouraging people to play. Excellent job.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

Darth TNT posted:

Kyogre is incredibly easy to catch if you have an IPhone with AR. Just toggle it on, search him out and get in his face. It also gives you the expert handler boost, which I believe adds a minor boost to catch rate?
The only downside is that there is a chance that he'll go crazy. So far I've done 4 raids, caught 3. The only one I didn't was the one that went crazy.


New Exraid passes went out. I was at both raids that triggered it and didn't get any.
I suppose it could be worse, I could be the guy who has 600 raids has been present at all 6 of the raids that have triggered exraids in our neighbourhood and still hasn't received a pass.

The ExRaid "system" is still a broken mess and is actively discouraging people to play. Excellent job.

Don't remind me that Android users don't get that spiffy new mode :cry:

Das Doppelganger
Dec 22, 2012

Parrotine posted:

Don't remind me that Android users don't get that spiffy new mode :cry:

I've no interest in my battery suffering more than it already does. If I wanted real life in my video games I'd go play real life.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



so i decided i'd go and trash a bunch of crappy mons with sub-90% ivs i've been pointlessly holding on to (poo poo like 84% iv seakings and whatnot) and boy oh man why the gently caress did they change it so that any time you do anything to your pokemon it resets all the way to the loving start of the list. this is irritating as gently caress and i hope it's just a bug that they fix.

SeXTcube
Jan 1, 2009

financially racist posted:

so i decided i'd go and trash a bunch of crappy mons with sub-90% ivs i've been pointlessly holding on to (poo poo like 84% iv seakings and whatnot) and boy oh man why the gently caress did they change it so that any time you do anything to your pokemon it resets all the way to the loving start of the list. this is irritating as gently caress and i hope it's just a bug that they fix.
This bug, hopefully not feature, has been around for a few weeks now. I hope it is changed before the next time we get double xp because that's going to kill efficiency for mass evolves. It was a pain when I was clearing out old garbage the other day as well.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Stupid
Bread Liar
Hell yeah, caught a weather boosted Kyogre, 2841 CP. IVs are poo poo but who cares, I'll take weather boosts over that.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Louisgod posted:

Hell yeah, caught a weather boosted Kyogre, 2841 CP. IVs are poo poo but who cares, I'll take weather boosts over that.

Better a high lvl money ready for action then a low lvl perfect one black holeing all your stardust

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Steve Jorbs posted:

This bug, hopefully not feature, has been around for a few weeks now. I hope it is changed before the next time we get double xp because that's going to kill efficiency for mass evolves. It was a pain when I was clearing out old garbage the other day as well.

Number the Pokemon you plan to evolve, i.e. name them 01, 02, 03 etc up to however many you get. Then chance search pretended to A-Z, then in search, put "evolve" which will only bring up Pokemon with enough candy to evolve, so as you evolve each one they'll disappear from the list. If you're doing multi-devices, don't number the trash mons (pidgeys, weedles, etc) and have them sorted by pokedex.

I have 200 Pokemon to evolve that weekend so I'm trying to figure out how to filter for the 3rd device. I'm thinking reverse alphabet and name things ZZ or something then start from the bottom and work my way up, but I think I'd get screwed by the same issue.

SeXTcube
Jan 1, 2009

seiferguy posted:

Number the Pokemon you plan to evolve, i.e. name them 01, 02, 03 etc up to however many you get. Then chance search pretended to A-Z, then in search, put "evolve" which will only bring up Pokemon with enough candy to evolve, so as you evolve each one they'll disappear from the list. If you're doing multi-devices, don't number the trash mons (pidgeys, weedles, etc) and have them sorted by pokedex.

I have 200 Pokemon to evolve that weekend so I'm trying to figure out how to filter for the 3rd device. I'm thinking reverse alphabet and name things ZZ or something then start from the bottom and work my way up, but I think I'd get screwed by the same issue.
I've thought about ways to work around this with naming and sorting, but gently caress if I'm going to spend the time to do that for 400 pokemon. My time would be better spent just paying $1 for an extra lucky egg.

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.

seiferguy posted:

Number the Pokemon you plan to evolve, i.e. name them 01, 02, 03 etc up to however many you get. Then chance search pretended to A-Z, then in search, put "evolve" which will only bring up Pokemon with enough candy to evolve, so as you evolve each one they'll disappear from the list. If you're doing multi-devices, don't number the trash mons (pidgeys, weedles, etc) and have them sorted by pokedex.

I have 200 Pokemon to evolve that weekend so I'm trying to figure out how to filter for the 3rd device. I'm thinking reverse alphabet and name things ZZ or something then start from the bottom and work my way up, but I think I'd get screwed by the same issue.
Or you do this with favouriting, which takes hardly any extra effort as opposed to renaming.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Stupid
Bread Liar

Entropist posted:

Or you do this with favouriting, which takes hardly any extra effort as opposed to renaming.

This is what I do and yeah while it's a hassle to even have to loving do this, it's much easier to favorite anything you're evolving.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Finally got an EX raid pass. Did the raid today, from 10-1045. We set a 1015 start time just in case....and one lady was really pissed about it, because she had to get to work. I understand, but no one wanted to be the assholes that jump right at 10, seeing as the passes seem to be pretty low in number. Right at 1014 another dude zipped in and actually in an Uber to get to the raid, so thankfully we waited, so we had 11 accounts.

Fucker had Focus Blast and was one-shotting everything but we beat him. Everyone but the pissed lady caught him. My friend caught on the first ball, mine was the second. Two of the other guys were playing for their kids and were worried about losing the chance, so another person caught them for them.

The suck part is that everyone else was in a circle to battle but that one lady refused to get near the group, almost anyone would have tried to catch him for her. Ah well?

One of the players was whining hers was only 72% but loving hell man, it's a drat Mewtwo, I don't care if he has negative %!

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Entropist posted:

Or you do this with favouriting, which takes hardly any extra effort as opposed to renaming.

That's fair. I like the numbering system since it helps me keep track of how many I have to evolve.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

Ah, the Mewtwo from today's EX raid decided to run from me. I'm just really glad I got to catch at least one of them, I don't expect any more passes for a long time.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

seiferguy posted:

Number the Pokemon you plan to evolve, i.e. name them 01, 02, 03 etc up to however many you get. Then chance search pretended to A-Z, then in search, put "evolve" which will only bring up Pokemon with enough candy to evolve, so as you evolve each one they'll disappear from the list. If you're doing multi-devices, don't number the trash mons (pidgeys, weedles, etc) and have them sorted by pokedex.

I have 200 Pokemon to evolve that weekend so I'm trying to figure out how to filter for the 3rd device. I'm thinking reverse alphabet and name things ZZ or something then start from the bottom and work my way up, but I think I'd get screwed by the same issue.

Assuming you have enough common trash to evolve such that it's going to take the full 30 mins, just search for "pidgey" on one device and "hoothoot" on the second device and "sentret" on the third?

Or am I missing the problem?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Das Doppelganger posted:

I've no interest in my battery suffering more than it already does. If I wanted real life in my video games I'd go play real life.

The new AR is honestly just a novelty anyway, it’s cool to show off, but I’m not going to use it and risk missing catching a Pokémon.

Rich Uncle Chet
Jan 20, 2005


The Law? Law is a Human Institution.


Duckman2008 posted:

The new AR is honestly just a novelty anyway, it’s cool to show off, but I’m not going to use it and risk missing catching a Pokémon.

It's actually super useful in some situations.

For example, Kyogre is MUCH, MUCH easier to capture wuth AR plus

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
Yeah you can get Kyogre to like, Ho-Oh/Ursaring/Ponyta levels of close with the AR+ mode. Plus if what I saw was correct, Kyogre won't even do the stupid side to side drifting in that mode.

Psychobabble!
Jun 22, 2010

Observing this filth unsettles me
Do we even have AR+ on android yet? I haven't been keeping up with it because it's goddamn stupid. Give us trading already, drat it :argh:. I've only done one Kyogre raid thus far. He *is* definitely way farther back than most have been, I think since the birds. We have been spoiled but large target circles and have forgotten our true pokemaster ways.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Willsun posted:

Yeah you can get Kyogre to like, Ho-Oh/Ursaring/Ponyta levels of close with the AR+ mode. Plus if what I saw was correct, Kyogre won't even do the stupid side to side drifting in that mode.

He will in fact do the side to side drifting, however it barely matters when you're so close you can count his nosehairs.


Rich Uncle Chet posted:

It's actually super useful in some situations.

For example, Kyogre is MUCH, MUCH easier to capture wuth AR plus

I tried it on Groudon once and discovered that there is such a thing as being too close. If you do it on Groudon you can literally only see a large red nose with a circle. You can throw excellents with your eyes closed this way, unfortunately there is a weird bug where if you're too close the ball with hit the target and bounce off. :(

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Rich Uncle Chet posted:

It's actually super useful in some situations.

For example, Kyogre is MUCH, MUCH easier to capture wuth AR plus

I’ll try this, I’ve only done One Kyogre raid, and it was 10 degrees out so I didn’t want to get out of my car. I’m guessing I could have AR from my car, but if I had to move to get closer it wouldn’t have been fun.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
I caught Kyogre on my first raid with my first ball, I don't know what y'all are complaining about :colbert:

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


First Kyogre raid, connected with one ball and whiffed with the other 8. Ugh, I'm bad at throwing. Should have just gone straight maybe.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.
Saw this posted on my local discord, thought it might be useful for some people here:

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Chairman Mao posted:

Saw this posted on my local discord, thought it might be useful for some people here:

I feel dumb because I don't get it.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

dwarf74 posted:

I feel dumb because I don't get it.

It's start/release points for the throw and how you should spin it. Personally I wouldn't bother throwing at Kyogre at the edges, just wait for it to come back into the center, it's not like you're under a time limit.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.
Yeah, I've been practicing the center throw with regular pokeballs on far away trash. I'm getting good enough at it that I think I could try curveballs on an actual kyogre now. The AR trick lets you recenter almost instantly anyway so it's not like you need to get good at the side throws.


Has anybody here been mapping out their local s2 cells? I'm trying to make sure I hit at least one gym in each cell every cycle now, and some of the local raiders are targeting low traffic gyms that are in cells by themselves to try to bump them up to ex eligible. I know this isn't the level of transparency people wanted, but it helps to have some idea what you're doing and what effect it has.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
much like "okay nobody tap OK after catching a raid boss so everyone can catch it" I'm not actually convinced that's meaningfully going to alter any kind of result, but there are some people here who've been deliberately trying to boost a park spawn that's in a mostly water S2 so there's only one real possible ex raid location.

I guess we'll see if it works? :shrug:

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

Psion posted:

much like "okay nobody tap OK after catching a raid boss so everyone can catch it" I'm not actually convinced that's meaningfully going to alter any kind of result

It's hard to say, but all of the raids around here have been at high traffic parks and after reviewing our previous raids we confirmed that no s2 cell has ever had more than one mewtwo in it at a time. There definitely seems to be a connection between raid activity and ex eligibility but it'll be a pretty definitive sign if one of the formerly underutilized gyms suddenly gets its first ex raid now that it's being targeted.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Chairman Mao posted:

It's hard to say, but all of the raids around here have been at high traffic parks and after reviewing our previous raids we confirmed that no s2 cell has ever had more than one mewtwo in it at a time. There definitely seems to be a connection between raid activity and ex eligibility but it'll be a pretty definitive sign if one of the formerly underutilized gyms suddenly gets its first ex raid now that it's being targeted.

There's a raid which happened a week or two here at a "turns over every week or so maybe" park with one stop and one gym. I'm sure it's an overly complicated mess behind the scenes just like most of Niantic's ideas.

still, like you, I'm interested to see if the deliberate boost attempts work out consistently or not.

Beastyfella
Mar 5, 2008

I have lost all powers of reading comprehension and counting ability hours ago
Finally got to try Kyogre out today and it is a beast. Both raids had blizzard and it wasn't even worth dodging, as I got shredded since I don't have high level ideal mins to fill my group out. I whiffed a ton of balls and lost the first one. At the second stop I caught one for my kid on the first ball, and got mine on the third.
You really do have to hook it way out there just right or you don't hit the catch ring, or miss it entirely. Low ivs but I don't care too much there is still plenty of time.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Toilet Rascal
I want to reiterate how stupid item / prestige ball payout based on team & gym control is stupid because it's mostly out of your control who shows up to a gym.

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Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

I wish the idea of 'EX raids spawns at parks' never came out. It's bad enough that its winter time and daylight saving times limited my raiding times to approximately a 2 hour window, but even when a raid spawns people aren't willing to do it unless its a park reachable from their car.

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