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Jessica could still theoretically fly, but yeah ostensibly she's the "strong" one and Luke's the "tough" one.
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The Question IRL posted:This came up when my wife and I watched the Defender's, but you don't want to make Luge Cage too strong. STAC Goat posted:Jessica could still theoretically fly, but yeah ostensibly she's the "strong" one and Luke's the "tough" one. I'm not talking about stronger, I'm just talking about appearance. And I'm asking because I can't remember if they went into it more like 'Oh poo poo, it's not just your skin, this goes all the way to your nerves, we probably couldn't cut through a vein with a chainsaw' or not. Do you guys think that Luke could go from this  to this if he worked out? 
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Yea probably but that’s a trick bodybuilders do to make them look jacked. Hugh Jackman is pretty jacked regardless but there’s weight cutting tricks you do to make you look insane like that.
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In order to do that he wouldn't have to build any more muscle at all, he'd just have to go on a diet to lose some fat and get ripped but then he'd look smaller and less BIG and big is good
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His insides are still gooey obviously, based on his injuries in JJ and the fact that the special bullets in Luke Cage actually hurt him, whether his muscles and skin will actually get bigger.... like who knows. The writers probably haven't even thought about it really and probably don't need to. In the comics he can work out and keeps fit by lifting crazily huge stuff, most characters who are super strong and invincible can. Unless they want to do some sort of "gah my powers are a curse" type story then generally they just get to look exactly as awesome as the artist wants to draw the character. There was a one off issue in a series about a school/training camp for heroes a few years ago where there was a super out of shape kid who was completely indestructible and his body literally couldn't change other than natural aging, he dropped out of the training camp because he could never be a hero but they suggested he would be great at search and rescue in inhospitable climates or like exploring and poo poo. Was a pretty great issue.
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RareAcumen posted:I'm not talking about stronger, I'm just talking about appearance. And I'm asking because I can't remember if they went into it more like 'Oh poo poo, it's not just your skin, this goes all the way to your nerves, we probably couldn't cut through a vein with a chainsaw' or not. Do you guys think that Luke could go from this Apparently when "strong" guys actually look like Jackman they are physically at their weakest because it's fasting and slowing down your water intake that gets every single muscle striation popping through your skin like that. So an actual works-every-day strong guy would just be a big burly motherfucker. I think Kingpin sells that physicality perfectly.
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thebardyspoon posted:There was a one off issue in a series about a school/training camp for heroes a few years ago where there was a super out of shape kid who was completely indestructible and his body literally couldn't change other than natural aging, he dropped out of the training camp because he could never be a hero but they suggested he would be great at search and rescue in inhospitable climates or like exploring and poo poo. Was a pretty great issue. Butterball, from Avengers: The Initiative. He wasn’t a kid, pretty sure he was in his 30s or so. And I’m also pretty sure he didn’t age, either. He literally couldn’t feel anything, either, if I remember right.
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bring back old gbs posted:Apparently when "strong" guys actually look like Jackman they are physically at their weakest because it's fasting and slowing down your water intake that gets every single muscle striation popping through your skin like that. So an actual works-every-day strong guy would just be a big burly motherfucker. I think Kingpin sells that physicality perfectly. That and stuff like slathering yourself in Preparation H, to keep the skin tight.
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RareAcumen posted:I'm not talking about stronger, I'm just talking about appearance. And I'm asking because I can't remember if they went into it more like 'Oh poo poo, it's not just your skin, this goes all the way to your nerves, we probably couldn't cut through a vein with a chainsaw' or not. Do you guys think that Luke could go from this I like to think that The Greatest Showman isn't actually a movie, and some dude is just putting up posters about how great Hugh Jackman is.
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There has been awfully little conversation about JJ2. Do we have any info other than the teaser that got released? Do we know who the villain will be?
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Comes out March 8th. The breadcrumbs from season 1 point to Nuke and the people who created Nuke also having something to do with Jessica's powers. Rampant internet speculation that a person was cast who could possibly be the Daredevil villain Typhoid Mary.
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AngryBooch posted:Comes out March 8th. The breadcrumbs from season 1 point to Nuke and the people who created Nuke also having something to do with Jessica's powers. Rampant internet speculation that a person was cast who could possibly be the Daredevil villain Typhoid Mary. Lack of corporate accountability for the damages their greed and neglect causes would be a real topical pick for next season's theme.
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thebardyspoon posted:His insides are still gooey obviously, based on his injuries in JJ and the fact that the special bullets in Luke Cage actually hurt him, whether his muscles and skin will actually get bigger.... like who knows. The writers probably haven't even thought about it really and probably don't need to. In the comics he can work out and keeps fit by lifting crazily huge stuff, most characters who are super strong and invincible can. Unless they want to do some sort of "gah my powers are a curse" type story then generally they just get to look exactly as awesome as the artist wants to draw the character. What? No. They had like 3 episodes about how his insides are so tough they keep breaking scapels. The bullets only work because they’re scifi magic so they can break both his skin and muscles. And I’m sure every character, including Luke cage and JJ, could get Bruce lee muscles popping if they wanted to. But why would they want to.
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Billzasilver posted:What? No. They had like 3 episodes about how his insides are so tough they keep breaking scapels. The bullets only work because they’re scifi magic so they can break both his skin and muscles Uh no dude that’s why they give him the injection in his mucus membrane. In the show they explain that Luke’s epidermal skin cells fold like ceramic plates instead of bonding to one another to form skin. His body isn’t super tough, it’s just super dense and constructed in a very sturdy way, that why they need to weaken his skin with all that chemical acid junk.
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Do you remember them poking at the bullet hole, already through the skin?
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Samizdata posted:That and stuff like slathering yourself in Preparation H, to keep the skin tight. Tell me more about this magic.
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Habibi posted:Tell me more about this magic. I'm a goon, not a goon that lifts heavy things. There are also special routines to deal with making the skin tight. That's all I got.
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It's supposed to be good for bags under your eyes, too.
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There's some old home remedy for wrinkles that says if you use Preparation H on your eyes it like restricts the blood vessels and tightens the skin or something. So I guess some actors or weight lifters figure if they use it on their muscles it will give them that dehydrated muscles breaking out of your skin look.
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Billzasilver posted:Do you remember them poking at the bullet hole, already through the skin? Was that when they had him submerged in the acid bath?
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Field Mousepad posted:Was that when they had him submerged in the acid bath? No it was in the dark room, like 5 minutes after he got shot the first time
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We have a date for JJS2. https://twitter.com/Krystenritter/status/954149560913362944
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Yes, we've known that for a month or so, Netflix put out a video and everything.
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STAC Goat posted:There's some old home remedy for wrinkles that says if you use Preparation H on your eyes it like restricts the blood vessels and tightens the skin or something. This is true, but the US formulation of PrepH was modified to work differently, in order to discourage off-label usage.
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"Preparation H: For Your Butt Only"
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RareAcumen posted:I'm not talking about stronger, I'm just talking about appearance. And I'm asking because I can't remember if they went into it more like 'Oh poo poo, it's not just your skin, this goes all the way to your nerves, we probably couldn't cut through a vein with a chainsaw' or not. Do you guys think that Luke could go from this It was a bad idea for Jackman to risk his health like that but on the other hand, no one will ever look that much like Wolverine ever again.
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 I wonder if that's going to be the trend forever.
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RareAcumen posted:
Kids not thinking their parents are cool? Good chance.
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That Hugh Jackman one is real good.
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I swear I remember a time when Wolverine was canonically 5'3". The Meanest Manlet.
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Halloween Jack posted:I swear I remember a time when Wolverine was canonically 5'3". The Meanest Manlet. Wasn't that long ago, and it's one of the reasons people flipped poo poo when Jackman was cast, because he's so tall. There were campaigns to replace him with loving Danzig.
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Casting discussion based on who already looks like a fictional character is the dumbest thing, and Danzig doesn't need his ego to swell any further.
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Halloween Jack posted:I swear I remember a time when Wolverine was canonically 5'3". The Meanest Manlet. The best part is that he's 5'3 and like 300 lbs but because his bones don't stress he's capable of benching like 700-800 lbs.
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Bust Rodd posted:The best part is that he's 5'3 and like 300 lbs but because his bones don't stress he's capable of benching like 700-800 lbs. And he's super cool and gets all the ladies and when he's not around all the other super heroes ask "Hey, where's wolverine?"
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:And he's super cool and gets all the ladies and when he's not around all the other super heroes ask "Hey, where's wolverine?" And he's all "Get me another stogie, bub!"
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I like the part where a 350 year old man who is completely emotionally retarded from multiple lifetimes worth of ultra-violence and the unspeakable horrors of being a soldier who cannot die falls in love with a women in her mid-20's, assaults her fiance', and somehow remains the most beloved and cherished team-member.
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Bust Rodd posted:I like the part where a 350 year old man who is completely emotionally retarded from multiple lifetimes worth of ultra-violence and the unspeakable horrors of being a soldier who cannot die falls in love with a women in her mid-20's, assaults her fiance', and somehow remains the most beloved and cherished team-member. Alphas are like that, bro.
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Halloween Jack posted:Casting discussion based on who already looks like a fictional character is the dumbest thing, and Danzig doesn't need his ego to swell any further. Counterpoint: Professor X / Patrick Stewart. Somewhere in my parents' storage is a 1993 Wizard magazine testifying to this.
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The only time I've ever liked Cyclops was that time when he wakes up in bed next to Emma Frost, and Wolverine is like perched on the end of the bed going "Well, well," and Cyclops is like "Says the rear end in a top hat who spent years trying to gently caress my wife."
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