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Convex posted:Playing Mad Max at the moment and absolutely loving it in general, but holy poo poo why is it normal to have to hold the button down to get in a car or pick up a piece of scrap? Loads of games seem to have started doing this and I don't understand why, it just makes everything feel slow and unresponsive. Yeah I saw the first 30 seconds of metal gear survive and bailed because there were like four items/actions performed within moments and they all required filling up a circle by holding the button. It's maddening
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Silent Hill 2 had the worst twist cause I hear Mary ask James why he killed her when you get the radio.
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Jan 18, 2018 11:19
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Yeah to be honest everything you guys posted to argue it's not supposed to be a twist just makes it feel like Arkane are simply bad at keeping twists under wraps.
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Jan 18, 2018 11:44
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Nuebot posted:Not really though, the game constantly talks about memory modification and experiments where they were injecting human DNA and memories into the aliens. January, the AI programmed to act like Morgan Yu, also constantly says things like "I DIDN'T EXPECT YOU TO ACT SO HUMAN, HOW SURPRISING". It's the single most telegraphed "twist" I've seen in a game in ages. Except that the Morgan you play in-game is actually Morgan. It's only the typhon you wake up as after the story ends that isn't Morgan.. Also saying that the game 'constantly' does what you says it does is a little incorrect - I think it mentions that maybe once or twice, and more in a hypothetical sense.
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Jan 18, 2018 14:52
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The final twist or whatever you want to call it is lame because all it was all a
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Jan 18, 2018 15:25
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Prey is basically System Shock 3 without the actual license so even if you don't like what it does it's still miles ahead of System Shock 2's "the person talking in dispassionate glitchy voice was actually an AI the entire time!!!" twist and the "'...nah  ' -gunshot, explosion, fade to black-" ending.
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Jan 18, 2018 15:27
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Guy Mann posted:Prey is basically System Shock 3 without the actual license so even if you don't like what it does it's still miles ahead of System Shock 2's "the person talking in dispassionate glitchy voice was actually an AI the entire time!!!" twist and the "'...nah That's an amazing ending though.
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Guy Mann posted:Prey is basically System Shock 3 without the actual license so even if you don't like what it does it's still miles ahead of System Shock 2's "the person talking in dispassionate glitchy voice was actually an AI the entire time!!!" twist and the "'...nah You sound like you're saying System Shock 2's ending wasn't the best, I don't comprehend
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Danaru posted:You sound like you're saying System Shock 2's ending wasn't the best, I don't comprehend Nah! ....
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But the SHODAN reveal wasn't a twist because she existed beforehand and I figured it out???
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Its also possible for a twist to be there for thematic reasons and not lovely "but you were mistaken about everything you know!!!" reasons, which is why I liked Prey's and didn't think it was unearned or pointless.
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Yeah, it was a great reaffirmation of the game's themes. It just wasn't the big twist the game thought it was.  Batman Origins will forever be the best example of that. Everyone knew the Joker was going to be responsible for everything, but the scene where this is shown as framed and presented as a big Gotcha! moment. Even without the foreshadowing it was obvious.
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Jan 18, 2018 20:57
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The SS2 twist dragged the game down because the time between Polito-SHODAN, should I be spoilering this speaking to you and you picking up a voice log of real Polito isn't very long, and the two sound nothing alike. I never played (or much heard of) the original System Shock, and I picked it up quick.
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Jan 18, 2018 21:46
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MisterBibs posted:The SS2 twist dragged the game down because the time between Polito-SHODAN, should I be spoilering this speaking to you and you picking up a voice log of real Polito isn't very long, and the two sound nothing alike. I actually thought it was a production error when I noticed that. I figured they couldn't get the voice actor and just use a random employee or employee's sister. So, I was still surprised.
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Jan 18, 2018 21:49
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Convex posted:Playing Mad Max at the moment and absolutely loving it in general, but holy poo poo why is it normal to have to hold the button down to get in a car or pick up a piece of scrap? Loads of games seem to have started doing this and I don't understand why, it just makes everything feel slow and unresponsive. I broadly agree, but in Wolfenstein there is the aspect of choosing when to take your health above its normal maximum (for those who havent played them, if you overcharge your health above its normal level it ticks down over time to your regular maximum even if you dont take damage). So there are times I'll leave health lying because I'm close to max health and poking about looking for secrets or whatever, then chow it all down before sprinting to the next action set piece. It would probably be better if you auto-picked up health til you hit your normal max then had you press a button to pick up health consumables that will overcharge you. Though then I'd probably get annoyed when it picked up a +20% health item automatically when I was already at 97%, but probably still preferable.
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Jan 18, 2018 21:59
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Finished with rear end creed origins and went back to black flag. Forgot how irritating the Apparently random pattern of Capitalising certain Words in the Subtitles was. Petty as hell but oh my god 
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Jan 18, 2018 22:34
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poptart_fairy posted:Finished with rear end creed origins and went back to black flag. Forgot how irritating the Apparently random pattern of Capitalising certain Words in the Subtitles was. Before English was standardized, all nouns were capitalized. https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10522/capitalisation-of-nouns-in-english-in-the-17th-and-18th-centuries EDIT: poptart_fairy posted:Finished with rear end Creed Origins and went back to black Flag. Forgot how irritating the apparently random Pattern of Capitalising certain Words in the Subtitles was. Vic has a new favorite as of 22:58 on Jan 18, 2018 |
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Jan 18, 2018 22:51
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I apologise that this isn't the thread for it, but is Black Flag worth persevering with beyond the first few hours? I loved Far Cry 3 but hated 4, and the first few hours of Black Flag seem boring as hell.
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Jan 18, 2018 23:03
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Yeah it's a great pirate game. Once you have your ship and are free to plunder at will and still not having fun then I'd give up. I loved it.
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Jan 18, 2018 23:10
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Convex posted:I loved Far Cry 3 but hated 4 But it's like the same exact game...
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Jan 18, 2018 23:13
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kazil posted:But it's like the same exact game... Supposedly the villain wasn't as memorable and stuck around the whole time instead of dying halfway through.
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Jan 18, 2018 23:15
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Thanks! I'll give it another shot and try to persevere through the intro to the actual pirate bits. As regards liking 3 and hating 4, the latter just felt like a facsimile but with a way more boring setting and the random encounter frequency turned up to 120%. I could play tropical island paradise game all day but the Himalayas just came across dull to me.
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Jan 18, 2018 23:19
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kazil posted:But it's like the same exact game... The thing about 4 is that both the villain and your allies are insufferable.
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Jan 18, 2018 23:21
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Vic posted:Before English was standardized, all nouns were capitalized. Well, poo poo. And yeah, persevere with black flag. Once you get to the point where you can upgrade a town, and a support character tells you to meet them "in a few weeks", you're off the hook and can go nuts. If the game still doesn't interest you after that point then it won't at all.
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Samuringa posted:The thing about 4 is that both the villain and your allies are insufferable. Far Cry 4 had the clumsiest attempt at making the bad guy seem not that bad, (spoiling just in case)mainly specifically because the first time you meet him he stabs one of his own soldiers to death with a pen, then tortures a guy for like 20 minutes before he finally comes back. "See he's not that bad because he's nice to you in the secret ending!" okay but he stabbed his own soldier and tortured a man you can't just unstab or untorture those guys
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Samuringa posted:The thing about 4 is that both the villain and your allies are insufferable. So it's like the exact same game?
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Danaru posted:Far Cry 4 had the clumsiest attempt at making the bad guy seem not that bad, (spoiling just in case)mainly specifically because the first time you meet him he stabs one of his own soldiers to death with a pen, then tortures a guy for like 20 minutes before he finally comes back. "See he's not that bad because he's nice to you in the secret ending!" okay but he stabbed his own soldier and tortured a man you can't just unstab or untorture those guys I mean, it’s not that bad in comparison to the religious cleansing or narco state the two “good guys” want to enact. Also the soldier he stabbed did just light up a bus full of civilians and almost kill the son of a woman he still loves. And it’s explicit that he may not have been that bad before, but he loving snapped when the rebels killed his daughter. He’s not presented as a good guy, and most everything he does in the game is presented as pretty bad, but it’s balanced against lovely alternatives and a broken human being. Reminded me of 2 where your enemies sucked, your allies sucked, and you killed yourself in the end to try to cut off some of the cycle of violence Ugly In The Morning has a new favorite as of 01:03 on Jan 19, 2018 |
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Danaru posted:Far Cry 4 had the clumsiest attempt at making the bad guy seem not that bad, (spoiling just in case)mainly specifically because the first time you meet him he stabs one of his own soldiers to death with a pen, then tortures a guy for like 20 minutes before he finally comes back. "See he's not that bad because he's nice to you in the secret ending!" okay but he stabbed his own soldier and tortured a man you can't just unstab or untorture those guys That just sounds like a different way of making a villain besides the cliche of just having them murder their soldiers for the slightest failure.
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It always kinda bugged me that even after you've done everything you can do in Saints Row 4, you can't really set the simulation to a pure (for lack of a better term) Steelport. There's still alien poo poo in the center of the city, signs left and right praise Zinyak, etc. Like, putting their name on everything is kinda the Saint's thing
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Convex posted:I apologise that this isn't the thread for it, but is Black Flag worth persevering with beyond the first few hours? I loved Far Cry 3 but hated 4, and the first few hours of Black Flag seem boring as hell. Same with me for Far Crys. 4th's lack of oceans hurt a ton, and the AI for humans and animals was dumbed down significantly. Also the upgrade system seemed far less interesting and rewarding. Everything else just feels like a lower-effort version of the first game.
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MisterBibs posted:It always kinda bugged me that even after you've done everything you can do in Saints Row 4, you can't really set the simulation to a pure (for lack of a better term) Steelport. There's still alien poo poo in the center of the city, signs left and right praise Zinyak, etc. Like, putting their name on everything is kinda the Saint's thing It bugged me that the tech stuff you took over turned blue instead of Saints Purple.
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Jan 19, 2018 03:57
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That City Shrouded in Shadow sounds so incredibly my jam but isn't getting an English release
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Olaf The Stout posted:Same with me for Far Crys. 4th's lack of oceans hurt a ton, and the AI for humans and animals was dumbed down significantly. Also the upgrade system seemed far less interesting and rewarding. Everything else just feels like a lower-effort version of the first game. Man I think you nailed it, the lack of sharks and beaches definitely harmed it for me. In fact I think any game would be improved by adding sharks.
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MisterBibs posted:It always kinda bugged me that even after you've done everything you can do in Saints Row 4, you can't really set the simulation to a pure (for lack of a better term) Steelport. There's still alien poo poo in the center of the city, signs left and right praise Zinyak, etc. Like, putting their name on everything is kinda the Saint's thing I'd just be happy to play for 3 hours without a crash that locks the PS4 bad enough I have to unplug it from the wall.
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Replaying Quake 1 at the moment, only using saves at the start of the levels and it's a blast. It's amazing how much they got right and how even with all the other FPS games since it still has it's own feel and atmosphere. But that 4th episode is really a dud compared to the rest. The disjointed maps and those bouncing blob enemies especially. I could never quite put my finger on it, but I think the main problem is that a few of the episode 4 maps rely on a hub area with different paths leading out of them and it's just trial and error or a lot of backtracking. Like go one way and I don't have enough grenades to kill the Shambler there, but go the other and you're facing it with powerups.
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Convex posted:Man I think you nailed it, the lack of sharks and beaches definitely harmed it for me. Euro Truck Simulator
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Pocket Billiards posted:I'd just be happy to play for 3 hours without a crash that locks the PS4 bad enough I have to unplug it from the wall. I remember this bug hitting my sister when I got SRIV for Christmas, it was fixed eventually; I wanna say early 2016?
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The sparseness of checkpoints in Saints Row 2 really hurt just now - took an hour and a half to get through "The Shopping Maul" (sooo... many.... cars...), but at least now that's two gangs done. Just need to deal with the Ronin, then the endgame stuff.
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Your mention of Dante's Inferno in another thread reminded me of how terrible that game ends. The game starts out with levels based around the circles of hell and enemies that are being punished for their sins in a specific way. Then as you progress they start reusing enemies and for the last couple of circles they had no idea how to adapt them into videogame levels so instead you just have to go through a terrible challenge section.
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Fuckin' Dark Cloud 2 because I waited through five weeks of holiday sales before buying it for PS4 and then after buying it on Monday it's now $5 instead of $15. Capitalism
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