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Regy Rusty posted:Taking everything Shawn says about the past cases as true (which I think is probably the case since they endeavored to use the truth as a smokescreen) Mindy is most likely #2 as her case happened 30 years previously and "judge" Shawn claimed he'd been in goo for 29 years. So I fully expect a payoff on case #1 at some point. I like your theory. Yeah, also that means Mindy could give us a definitive answer on how long time has passed since their deaths during which there was 800 reboots.
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I think the portal-judge also did Mindy. We know she is actually medium place, but Shawn was just playing a bit in season 1 and said he judged her. He wasn't actually her judge then in goo for 30 years.
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Jan 22, 2018 03:50
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I will be legitimately sad when the Judge isn’t Steve Austen.
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sbaldrick posted:I will be legitimately sad when the Judge isn’t Steve Austen. If it's not, that just means they're gonna pay off Eleanor's crush on Stone Cold some other way, so I won't be too mad.
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drunken officeparty posted:I think the portal-judge also did Mindy. We know she is actually medium place, but Shawn was just playing a bit in season 1 and said he judged her. He wasn't actually her judge then in goo for 30 years. Yes I know that. What I mean was that while Shawn was lying about BEING the judge for the sake of their plan, I don't think the things he said about the judge's previous cases were lies. swickles posted:Yeah, also that means Mindy could give us a definitive answer on how long time has passed since their deaths during which there was 800 reboots. Yeah and we still don't have any kind of idea for of what relationship passage of time in the afterlife has to the living world. Of course that might never matter.
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One thing that bugs me about the Bad Place; why would demons subject THEMSELVES to the horrors and inconveniences humans face? If those are things they enjoy, wouldn't they celebrate the humans who enter the Bad Place? And if those are things they hate, then why do they continue to do things like play Pirates of the Caribbean 6 forever? My theory: they hate all that stuff too, and whoever created the system did it that way because the demons aren't inherently bad, but living in a world like that primes them to take all their frustration out on humans through torture without compunction.
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Jan 22, 2018 05:28
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Regy Rusty posted:Yeah and we still don't have any kind of idea for of what relationship passage of time in the afterlife has to the living world Well Michael did say the Jaguars would "never win" the Superbowl, and when Jason assumed he was telling an absolute truth based on knowledge of the future, he came back with basically "no I can't see the future, but come on" I read way too much into the jokes on this show
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Argue posted:One thing that bugs me about the Bad Place; why would demons subject THEMSELVES to the horrors and inconveniences humans face? If those are things they enjoy, wouldn't they celebrate the humans who enter the Bad Place? And if those are things they hate, then why do they continue to do things like play Pirates of the Caribbean 6 forever? They love torturing people, while the people being tortured do not love being tortured. This seems pretty simple to grasp.
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Bad Place demons like lovely things and do lovely things, much like their subjects. In some cases they are extremely impressed by particularly lovely humans. However, unlike their subjects, demons are not held accountable for liking and doing lovely things. This is hypocritical, but in a roundabout meta way, hypocrites are simply yet another lovely thing that demons can indulge in being.
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swickles posted:Yeah, also that means Mindy could give us a definitive answer on how long time has passed since their deaths during which there was 800 reboots. They said last episode they were waiting for the girls gone wild guy to die so I'm thinking time didn't actually pass in the real world at even close to the same rate.
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socialsecurity posted:They said last episode they were waiting for the girls gone wild guy to die so I'm thinking time didn't actually pass in the real world at even close to the same rate. But Shawn said he was mad about not getting the people who made Transformers and Michael Bay isn't dead yet so I don't know what to believe
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Jan 22, 2018 10:57
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I think that was just an awkward segue, in that line he's talking about not catching the four humans.
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oh drat that does make sense. hmmm. i think we can probably conclude that time in the Places moves at a tiny tiny fraction of Earth time (800 resets).
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Jan 22, 2018 11:05
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Sort of like how you can have what feels like a 12-hour dream during a 20-minute nap.
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pwn posted:Sort of like how you can have what feels like a 12-hour dream during a 20-minute nap. you know, when i used to read a lot of books on dreams/lucid dreams/sleep science, they always claimed that's impossible, but it has happened to me a whole lot
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socialsecurity posted:They said last episode they were waiting for the girls gone wild guy to die so I'm thinking time didn't actually pass in the real world at even close to the same rate. They've been conspicuously silent on the concept of time entirely. We have no idea if time passes faster/slower/normal compared to Earth time because we haven't seen Earth except in pre-death flashbacks.
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precision posted:you know, when i used to read a lot of books on dreams/lucid dreams/sleep science, they always claimed that's impossible, but it has happened to me a whole lot The books are wrong.
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Jan 22, 2018 14:35
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Who is to say that the places even exist inside time, and people only see what they are familiar with?
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precision posted:oh drat that does make sense. hmmm. i think we can probably conclude that time in the Places moves at a tiny tiny fraction of Earth time (800 resets). I mean it wouldn't be Hell if you weren't being tortured forever. And what's more torturous than being stuck in a bad scenario for what only feels like forever?
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socialsecurity posted:They said last episode they were waiting for the girls gone wild guy to die so I'm thinking time didn't actually pass in the real world at even close to the same rate. I thought they just said they were waiting for him, not for him to die. He might have to travel through different departments, like spending a while with the penis flattener before someone else gets him.
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seaborgium posted:I thought they just said they were waiting for him, not for him to die. He might have to travel through different departments, like spending a while with the penis flattener before someone else gets him. Just checked, he says that "it started as a training program to prep for when the Girls Gone Wild guy gets here". Here presumably referring to The Bad Place in general.
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thexerox123 posted:Just checked, he says that "it started as a training program to prep for when the Girls Gone Wild guy gets here". Here presumably referring to The Bad Place in general. Ok, I still think going through different departments is a possibility in the Bad Place, they do have eternity after all. Having a dude spend a few centuries one place then moving on to another wouldn't be crazy.
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I think the flow of time is completely unrelated to the flow of time on earth and souls just sort of arrive whenever.
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Paul Rudd should reprise his role as Bobby Newport but God.
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Democratic Pirate posted:Paul Rudd should reprise his role as Bobby Newport but God. can i get a hell yeah
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fruit on the bottom posted:I think the flow of time is completely unrelated to the flow of time on earth and souls just sort of arrive whenever. Yes, I think the Good and Bad Places exist outside of linear time.
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WampaLord posted:Everyone does realize they're meeting a judge, not God, right?
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This week’s promos kinda give away who the judge is. Pretty dickish of them to do that. Don’t mouseover: It’s a burrito. A literal burrito. Like the episode name suggests. “The Burrito” It’s entirely possible that it’s a misdirection. I hope it’s a misdirection. Edit: The promo (please don’t watch) pwn fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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All the Ways The Good Place Has Blown Up Its Own Premise quote:The other remarkable thing about The Good Place is that the show is constantly killing its darlings. It throws away the fun of Michael’s many Bad Place attempts. It leaves behind Eleanor and Chidi’s adorable, creepy clown bungalow. In episode ten, we get a glorious trip to the real Bad Place, and it’s so funny and perfect that I could’ve happily stayed there for a long time (which is ironic for a place that’s supposed to be hell). But no — The Good Place catapulted its humans out of the Museum of Human Misery right away, giving us only a few short moments with Tahani’s fabulous Bad Place bob. Its season-two model of plotting looks more like the Star Trek: Discovery model, which also has at least one legitimate twist, but which operates on a more regular pattern of finding an idea and then immediately casting it aside for something else. But here’s the thing about the killing your darlings model for storytelling: For it to work, you have to make them darlings first. Without a sense that the show truly loves its characters, truly relishes the opportunity to tell a little story about a hot-air balloon or Mindy St. Clair’s masturbation proclivities, it doesn’t feel brave or surprising when the show then throws them away.
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Did they forget the part where the writers spent an entire season building up the entire cast?
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Jan 25, 2018 21:24
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Jan 25, 2018 21:27
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The show would insanely overstay its welcome if it didn't do that though. Like, a whole season of figuring out they're in the loop then another of escaping and so on would just be tedious.
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It's badly written but I'm pretty sure that's actually slagging off ST:D by comparing it to The Good Place
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There Bias Two posted:Did they forget the part where the writers spent an entire season building up the entire cast? That’s kind of an awkward quote out of context. The article does nothing but praise the show’s inventive and gripping writing.
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pwn posted:This week’s promos kinda give away who the judge is. Pretty dickish of them to do that. Don’t mouseover: It’s a burrito. A literal burrito. Like the episode name suggests. “The Burrito” I dunno, it seems obvious to me that Jason said something stupid. The Judge is going to come out, and then the test or trial or whatever is going to somehow involve the burrito which is why it's in the ep name. That scene didn't scream "The Judge is a living burrito" to me at all.
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Aerox posted:I dunno, it seems obvious to me that Jason said something stupid. The Judge is going to come out, and then the test or trial or whatever is going to somehow involve the burrito which is why it's in the ep name. That scene didn't scream "The Judge is a living burrito" to me at all. Besides, is an actual burrito really who Darcy Carden would love to act with the most?
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Sorry, double post, can't seem to delete.
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https://twitter.com/meganamram/status/956635672437170176 In response to a question about how time works in The Bad Place.
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Aerox posted:I dunno, it seems obvious to me that Jason said something stupid. The Judge is going to come out, and then the test or trial or whatever is going to somehow involve the burrito which is why it's in the ep name. That scene didn't scream "The Judge is a living burrito" to me at all. I think it's possible that: They spend the whole episode arguing in front of The Burrito, and the Judge only shows up at the very end to hand down the ruling. Otherwise I'm not sure why the episode would be named The Burrito. Alternately: The Burrito IS the Judge, and is voiced by H. Jon Benjamin
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Aerox posted:I dunno, it seems obvious to me that Jason said something stupid. The Judge is going to come out, and then the test or trial or whatever is going to somehow involve the burrito which is why it's in the ep name. That scene didn't scream "The Judge is a living burrito" to me at all. Jason is gonna eat the judge's lunch
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