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Just like Paris, defending the pick and roll is murder on Achilles.
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dokmo posted:Just like Paris, defending the pick and roll is murder on Achilles. 
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Niwrad posted:You honestly think the game back then is the same one big guys are playing today? That Shaq could play 40 minutes a night in today's game? Faster pace and having to guard big guys out to the perimeter all day is a different animal. Tons of big guys were playing equivalent minutes to Cousins in 2013, and I don't think the game's changed much from then: https://www.basketball-reference.co...der_by=mp_per_g Go back to 2008 and the list is even bigger, and I don't think a guy like Cousins would have seen any more strain in the Early Obama years then now. https://www.basketball-reference.co...der_by=mp_per_g Pace was also way higher in the late 80s and early 90s https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html dokmo posted:Just like Paris, defending the pick and roll is murder on Achilles.
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Lockback posted:Duncan, Shaq, Olajuwon, etc all played big minutes when they came into the league. Is there a reason Achilles tendons are not as strong as they were 7 or 8 years ago? Yes there typically is a big drop-off between the top 3 and #6, but it's not backward looking view to say that there is value in being toward the front of the line. I don't think most good GMs go into the draft with no idea who they want and if the draft is such a crap shoot, that's all the more reason to be able to grab the guy you feel really confident or comfortable with instead of option d, e, or f. Saying "well it's just the 6th pick so you'll probably just end up with Buddy Hield" is the most horrible, backward looking view since you're basically chaining your current personnel decisions to whatever dumpfuck GM did in the previous draft. The realistic way to look at the Nets pick is that you'll be ahead of 24 (or wherever it lands) teams in picking the prospect you like. If the draft is deep and your 6th option isn't that much better than who your 30th, then value it accordingly. If there are only a handful of prospect you think have a place in your rotation long term, then don't treat it as a Buddy Hield pick. WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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I think you would have to look at distance covered in game and the kind of movements and torque,biomechanics,even weight between big man's to make a wildly inaccurate guess.even diet,sleep cycles,the position you sleep in impacts this stuff. I think sportsvu or a similar company tracks this for the big soccer clubs,but its insanelly expensive,on the millions of euros per year range. Also, dokmo posted:Just like Paris, defending the pick and roll is murder on Achilles.
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Lockback posted:Tons of big guys were playing equivalent minutes to Cousins in 2013, and I don't think the game's changed much from then: https://www.basketball-reference.co...der_by=mp_per_g I'd like to see a split of players listed as 4s or 5s 3PA in 2013 versus now. Intuitively, I feel like the emphasis on the 3 pointer that the warriors started has made bigs have to close out on stretch 4/5s shooting threes, making them move a lot more than just camping in the paint and defending the rim/grabbing rebounds. Look at how fast Roy Hibbert fell off a cliff with his style of play, and just looking at Marc Gasol's 3PA/game his highest was 0.2 until last season when it shot up to 3.6 and this season its 4.2.
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ChainsawCharlie posted:I think you would have to look at distance covered in game and the kind of movements and torque,biomechanics,even weight between big man's to make a wildly inaccurate guess.even diet,sleep cycles,the position you sleep in impacts this stuff. I think sportsvu or a similar company tracks this for the big soccer clubs,but its insanelly expensive,on the millions of euros per year range. SportVU tracking data was available on NBA.com's website until like two years ago when they decided to make their website bad on purpose as some sort of company directive
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dokmo posted:Just like Paris, defending the pick and roll is murder on Achilles. *Bogart voice* "We'll always have that joke to trot out." edit :wowzers: or wozzers idk
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It's nice that Stan Van Gundy wants a bench buddy for Reggie Jackson during their injury periods.
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https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/958115635849977856 What a bag of poo poo
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morestuff posted:https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/958115635849977856 Huh. On the one hand that's nothing on the other hand Blake is owed s lot of money
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Avery Bradley is absolutely horrible, Tobias is a good scorer who can't pass, rebound, or defend, Boban rules but can't defend anyone I mean, the Pistons are still a 7 or 8 seed who gets knocked out in the first round, but I don't know what the Clippers are really getting out of this deal
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Marquis de Pyro posted:Avery Bradley is absolutely horrible, Tobias is a good scorer who can't pass, rebound, or defend, Boban rules but can't defend anyone cap relief
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Marquis de Pyro posted:Avery Bradley is absolutely horrible, Tobias is a good scorer who can't pass, rebound, or defend, Boban rules but can't defend anyone Space to sign Lebron ? I guess ?
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Jan 30, 2018 00:21
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Clippers have to be the one hesitating, I would do that deal as the Pistons 100% Griffin/Drummond Frontcourt is real nice
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morestuff posted:Blake Griffin $29,512,900 | $31,873,932 | $34,234,964 | $36,595,996 | $38,957,028 Iirc age 28-32
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morestuff posted:Blake Griffin $29,512,900 | $31,873,932 | $34,234,964 | $36,595,996 | $38,957,028 Eesh.
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dokmo posted:Just like Paris, defending the pick and roll is murder on Achilles. Bah gawd
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euphronius posted:Space to sign Lebron ? I guess ? Still gonna be significantly over the cap next year. But this move does probably take them out of the tax next season.
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I would not want to be paying 31 and 32 year old Blake that kind of money.
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morestuff posted:Blake Griffin $29,512,900 | $31,873,932 | $34,234,964 | $36,595,996 | $38,957,028 On one hand, that's a lot of money. On the other, trading .....that......for 5 years of Blake Griffin is uh , drat. I feel like lately most of the big trades are for guys with 1, 2 years left on a contract. Seeing a deal that long move would be cool and if he keeps the production up could be a total coup for the Pistons. Defs a gamble, though. He's shown some pretty good ability to adapt with his playmaking and improved shot, at least. Also if he's gone then so is DJ, Clippers might be doing a fire sale right now. Why am I speaking in sentence fragments. CRISPYBABY fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/958120119456206849 Well that escalated quickly
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Imagine going through all of this just to get traded half a year later https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/958119489148805120 It's like trading away MLK! 
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Seriously, what the gently caress Also,  Clippers
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Deandre is sure as poo poo getting traded too
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That's really dumb.
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I too wish I could trade my bad players for good players
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Blake is one of the original name-dropped renegades of funk.
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Pistons got a good deal I think. Might hurt in a few years, but they're not giving up poo poo.
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