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Mind_Taker posted:Did Ottawa...win a trade? Taking away Guy Boucher's ability to put Nate Thompson on the ice makes it a clear win, even before factoring in that they've also lost Phaneuf. Now trade Ceci and this team might look decent next year.
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grack posted:Drew Shore is playing in Switzerland and Gaborik has all of 14 points this season. Also, Ottawa's retaining a lot of salary. LA gave up Nick Shore, Drew Shore that the Canucks had for a bit is his brother though
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Matt Zerella posted:OTT apparently saves 4 mil in real money. So there it is. Yeah, cap wise with 25% retained the savings swapping Phaneuf for Gaborik is $375k. But there's some real money difference and Ottawa is the eternal punchline.
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Feb 14, 2018 03:48
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Nate Thompson is a good answer in the ‘that player is still in the NHL?!?’ pool
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ThinkTank posted:I wouldn't go that far, they gave up the best player in it, but they didn't immediately lose I guess? That’s quite the indictment of the other pieces if Phaneuf is the best player in a trade.
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Feb 14, 2018 03:50
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Aphrodite posted:They also beat Boston, team 2 of 31, a few days ago with the same circumstances. Boston had Rask in goal which made that victory even sweeter
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Feb 14, 2018 03:50
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kind of wild that that would have been a blockbuster 10 years ago and now its just sort of "meh"
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ThinkTank posted:LA gave up Nick Shore, Drew Shore that the Canucks had for a bit is his brother though I see. He sucks as well
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Mind_Taker posted:That’s quite the indictment of the other pieces if Phaneuf is the best player in a trade. Two abject spare parts, one washed up scorer and a washed up defenceman. It's hardly a blockbuster except for the salaries involved.
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A Typical Goon posted:Nate Thompson is a good answer in the ‘that player is still in the NHL?!?’ pool I don't even know who that is to begin with.
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Feb 14, 2018 03:51
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nhl trades are so stupid
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Feb 14, 2018 03:53
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I'd be hard-pressed to say Phaneuf is the best player in the trade. He's got a -6.5% rel CF on one of the worst possession teams in the NHL. He's also very slow.
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Feb 14, 2018 03:55
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I guess Blake figures Phaneuf can still play while Shore is depth and Gabby has been fuckin scratched because several young Kings forwards are being given a shot and Carter will eventually come back. Can Phaneuf still play in the NHL?
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Feb 14, 2018 03:56
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ThinkTank posted:Two abject spare parts, one washed up scorer and a washed up defenceman. It's hardly a blockbuster except for the salaries involved. I just don’t get it from LA’s perspective. Ottawa saves money so it makes sense for them given their stupid constraints, but does LA really need a bad defenseman and a sub-replacement level forward? Their defense is already fine and they need scoring.
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Feb 14, 2018 03:56
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If Phaneuf’s contract can be moved twice, there’s no excuse for how few trades there have been
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The Dirty Burger posted:If Phaneuf’s contract can be moved twice, there’s no excuse for how few trades there have been i'll give you a hint: it starts with c and rhymes with illusion
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Feb 14, 2018 04:07
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if you're on the playoff bubble you have to have some imagination and i'd rather have gaborik healthy in the playoffs than pay a million more for phaneuf to be bottom line grit. shore and thompson are both bottom 6 grinders but shore is better defensively so they get worse there. i dunno. i thought the new kings coach was supposed to be less about hard systems and veterans.
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Feb 14, 2018 04:12
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Ottawa is not very deep at forward, and are tied for 28th in the league in goals for. Gaborik only has 14 points this year, but that puts him on their third line. Gabby's seven goals would tie him for 6th on the Senators. His legs are literally held together by athletic tape, but he can probably still improve the Sens depth scoring.
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Feb 14, 2018 04:19
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So my wife really wants a MAF jersey that's half Penguins and half Golden Knights. Does anyone know anywhere online that makes / sells these things? Or do I need to buy the jerseys and find a local person to make it?
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Feb 14, 2018 04:21
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https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/963613146828165120 The Budget
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Matt Zerella posted:OTT apparently saves 4 mil in real money. So there it is. Ding ding ding dollar store eugene strikes again Edit He really is the villainous owner from Major League isnt he
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Feb 14, 2018 04:25
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Oswald Kesselpot posted:So my wife really wants a MAF jersey that's half Penguins and half Golden Knights. Does anyone know anywhere online that makes / sells these things? Or do I need to buy the jerseys and find a local person to make it? 
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Feb 14, 2018 04:26
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loving FINALLY WE HAVE A TEAM IN SEATTLE I only need to like one NHL team from now own! Thank god I'm free.
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x2 Then SEW
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I moved to the PNW and several months later we’re almost assured a Seattle NHL team. You’re welcome, everyone.
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i am the bird posted:I moved to the PNW and several months later we’re almost assured a Seattle NHL team. You’re welcome, everyone. Move to Mexico City next please tia
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Gaborik may also retire before the end of his contract - the last two years are less salary and this one was structured to avoid cap recapture rules. He turns 36 tomorrow. I could see him retiring after next year and leaving that last $6m of his $100m in NHL contracts on the table to play in Europe with fewer games (since he's injured for 30 per year anyway.)
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Oswald Kesselpot posted:So my wife really wants a MAF jersey that's half Penguins and half Golden Knights. Does anyone know anywhere online that makes / sells these things? Or do I need to buy the jerseys and find a local person to make it? Lmao you're going to get the other frankenjersey
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Feb 14, 2018 04:31
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hey melnyk I bet you can save even more money by just not owning a hockey team have you ever thought of that?
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Feb 14, 2018 04:43
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Levitate posted:hey melnyk I bet you can save even more money by just not owning a hockey team have you ever thought of that? gently caress JEFFREY LORIA well not the same guy but hes acting a lot like that gently caress They even look alike too 
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Feb 14, 2018 04:50
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Sens fans are understandably jittery: https://twitter.com/ErikKarlsson65/status/963619610502328320 https://twitter.com/ErikKarlsson65/status/963621563517022209
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Feb 14, 2018 04:52
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As if I need further reasons to hate Phaneuf. Who am I kidding I can always use more reasons.
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the rangers lost, which is Good
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Erik Karlsson is going to the LA Kings. Ignite the trade proposal websites!
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I haven't paid enough attention to rumors this year. I heard a few podcasts speculating on Ottawa trading Karlsson. What are the odds that's actually happening
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sleep with the vicious posted:I haven't paid enough attention to rumors this year. I heard a few podcasts speculating on Ottawa trading Karlsson. What are the odds that's actually happening Low. They’re not that competent, they’ll lose him to free agency.
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I can’t believe that someone traded for Phaneuf in 2018. Or that the Leafs got out of that deal without retaining salary (gently caress Dave Nonis forever still). Also is this the time of year that the Sabres start playing spoiler really well and giving their fans false hope, while the players and media spout endless quotes about how important these wins are for the team without realizing what a hard self-own that is?
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hifi posted:if you're on the playoff bubble you have to have some imagination and i'd rather have gaborik healthy in the playoffs than pay a million more for phaneuf to be bottom line grit. shore and thompson are both bottom 6 grinders but shore is better defensively so they get worse there. i dunno. i thought the new kings coach was supposed to be less about hard systems and veterans.
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abuse culture. posted:People make fun of ‘grit and heart’ and poo poo but you can get away with so much clutching and grabbing in the playoffs that it made Roman Polak look like an effective player. That kind of no skill high minutes defenceman might be more valuable in the playoffs than a 3rd/4th line skill guy who will get completely erased. If Phaneuf were playing for Polak's price tag, or at least close to it, that would be an easier sell. But he only has 10 more points despite making 7MM, Polak makes 1.1 MM and is a UFA. I would, no joke, rather have Polak. And I think he stinks.
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