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XyrlocShammypants posted:It also follows many American storylines where characters never really develop in a positive way, instead becoming worse at times. This seems like a weird criticism
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saltyslug posted:This seems like a weird criticism It’s not necessarily a criticism. Some of the best American entertainment stories have negative or no character development (Sopranos, Breaking Bad) but this is more along the lines of How I Met Your Mother. Americans increasingly prefer antihero stories or shows where characters they like retain their negative qualities or riff of them as long as possible. Character development in this game is a big shrug, with it ending more or less how it began.
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Feb 18, 2018 13:44
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XyrlocShammypants posted:It’s not necessarily a criticism. Some of the best American entertainment stories have negative or no character development (Sopranos, Breaking Bad) but this is more along the lines of How I Met Your Mother. Americans increasingly prefer antihero stories or shows where characters they like retain their negative qualities or riff of them as long as possible. Character development in this game is a big shrug, with it ending more or less how it began. i reckon this has been less true over the last decade though. out-and-out hero shows have jumped through the roof in popularity and stuff heavily influenced by the characters in The Shield, Breaking Bad, to an extent the Sopranos, has fallen a bit into the backgrouns
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Feb 18, 2018 13:47
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Why is NitW a 6.5GB game?
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Feb 18, 2018 13:49
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SelenicMartian posted:Why is NitW a 6.5GB game? The feels
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And also uncompressed audio. But mainly the feels. Every now and again a game or piece of media comes along that hits me really, really hard emotionally. It's been an honest few years since that happened, and then in the span of one month I mainlined The Adventure Zone podcast, and also played through NitW. NitW is hard because I grew up in the PNW in whatever the colder, rainier equivalent to a rust belt town is, and TAZ just because it's TAZ. I liked both a lot, even though all the criticisms posted earlier are still very valid.
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Feb 18, 2018 14:06
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Is compressed audio + Unity the reason Oxefree stutters all the time?
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Feb 18, 2018 14:12
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SelenicMartian posted:Is compressed audio + Unity the reason Oxefree stutters all the time? Maybe? NitW doesn't even have voice acting though so I have no idea why it's so big.
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Feb 18, 2018 15:07
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goferchan posted:Maybe? NitW doesn't even have voice acting though so I have no idea why it's so big. The 5-6 hours of music probably has something to do with it one two three
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Feb 18, 2018 15:17
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I think if their choice was between music and voice acting then they made a clear mistake. Voices would have brought life to the characters and the music outside of the theme is just Ok
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Feb 18, 2018 16:14
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XyrlocShammypants posted:I think if their choice was between music and voice acting then they made a clear mistake. Voices would have brought life to the characters and the music outside of the theme is just Ok I could not disagree with a post harder drat
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Feb 18, 2018 16:18
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Its difficult to see how a Gregg with a voice could still be charming. e: This is making me wonder if I would have liked Ren in Oxenfree if there'd been no voice acting. Not Operator fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Feb 18, 2018 |
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Feb 18, 2018 16:27
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Ren is a high as a kite exposition radio. He's fine.
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Feb 18, 2018 16:36
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i think text feels better in that type of narrative game than VA, i liked Night in the Woods and Kentucky Route Zero a lot more than Oxenfree and that was one of the reasons. VA is a stylistic choice, not a straight upgrade.
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Feb 18, 2018 16:42
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The Bloop posted:Guys I just bought Bayonetta Haven't played Bayonetta yet. Still not planning to play Bayonetta yet. 
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Feb 18, 2018 16:43
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Voice acting runs the inherit risk of being completely cringe worthy whereas a stellar soundtrack will carry whatever emotional delivery is necessary for the scene. Indie games that focus their budget on soundtrack over expensive VA is a good decision for my ears.
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XyrlocShammypants posted:I think if their choice was between music and voice acting then they made a clear mistake. Voices would have brought life to the characters and the music outside of the theme is just Ok I think the music is fantastic. And the dialogue is so drat good that anything other than a series of all-time great voice acting performances from a range of actors would have weakened it, and you're not getting that from an indie game made by a small team. You don't get that in AAA games on nine figure budgets. Also how is it misrepresented as being more supernatural than it is? I'm like 3/4 way through and I don't know how anyone could be thinking the small town depressing life isn't the point of the game.
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Feb 18, 2018 16:57
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onesixtwo posted:Voice acting runs the inherit risk of being completely cringe worthy whereas a stellar soundtrack will carry whatever emotional delivery is necessary for the scene. Indie games that focus their budget on soundtrack over expensive VA is a good decision for my ears. Cringe can be good in its own way though. I love the Mega Man 8 cutscenes now.
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Feb 18, 2018 17:03
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Evil Fluffy posted:Haven't played Bayonetta yet. Take THAT Kamiya
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Feb 18, 2018 17:32
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Apparently I played more Bayo 1 on the WiiU than I thought. I've finished Chapter 3 and haven't caught up to where I was. I think maybe Chapter 4 might have been as far as I got in it, but we'll see once I start it!
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Kamiya retweeted my bayo clip. I am blessed
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Evil Fluffy posted:Haven't played Bayonetta yet. 
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Samurai Sanders posted:At Yodobashi Camera in Japan. Which one? I’m in Tokyo this week
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XyrlocShammypants posted:I think if their choice was between music and voice acting then they made a clear mistake. Voices would have brought life to the characters and the music outside of the theme is just Ok Agreeing, this post is bad and you should feel bad. I mean, everyone has opinions, but this is up there with "I never use Revali's Gale."
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Feb 18, 2018 18:03
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Tender Bender posted:I think the music is fantastic. And the dialogue is so drat good that anything other than a series of all-time great voice acting performances from a range of actors would have weakened it, and you're not getting that from an indie game made by a small team. You don't get that in AAA games on nine figure budgets. Is night in the woods enjoyable if you’re not from a small town so that won’t resonate with you at all?
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Feb 18, 2018 18:05
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It's low on "game" (though it has a guitar hero-esque minigame, along with an NES clone minigame), and more of a visual novel. It's about a dying small town and a college dropout who came back home, along with maybe a murder mystery, towards the end and reconnecting with friends. There is no "bad end," and a bit of it is a little nihilistic. It also deals, a little, with themes of mental health, but not too heavily like literally any anime. E: VVV Yeah, also dealing with that. worker's rights, unions. There is a lot of backstory to be gleaned from what may seem like a sparse game. Most every side character is interesting and can be found at different points of the story, and there are things going on behind the scenes that you can and can't affect, like the homeless people in the church and his specific backstory. I really enjoyed it, and am glad I experienced it. But, again, it's not too much of a "game". Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Feb 18, 2018 |
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Feb 18, 2018 18:08
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LPG Giant posted:Is night in the woods enjoyable if you’re not from a small town so that won’t resonate with you at all? If you can get into things like the history/psychology of workers' rights then that's also something you can use to judge your interest
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Feb 18, 2018 18:11
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Feb 18, 2018 18:15
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LPG Giant posted:Is night in the woods enjoyable if you’re not from a small town so that won’t resonate with you at all? I bought it and I loved the art but wow the characters and setting really didn't resonate with me at all. I loved Life is Strange and Oxenfree despite those being set in places really far removed from my home, but I felt this one was too slice of lifey for a life I can't relate to. If all you need is lots of talking to NPCs about being 20 and directionless, though, go for it, because it sure has a lot of that.
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I was wondering why they went with the dark wraith outfit, then I realized.
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So, bought a SN30 Pro, but the thing spins madly when motion controls are enabled. I hope this isn't common? Product page says motion controls should work just fine on the Switch but latest firmware definitely isn't working. Going to end up having to refund and re-order through Amazon it looks.
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Mine works so well I use it exclusively for Splatoon 2, but that's anecdotal evidence and all.
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How do you play Splatoon motion controls with a connected /single controller? I usually keep my joy-cons in a 3D printed grip, but the only time I split them is for Splatoon. E: and most of the directionless 20-somethings in NitW have at least some sort of resolution, or get on a pathway to a future by the end. You have to talk to them a lot though and get a feel for the atmosphere. I used a giftcard to buy NitW and I'm really glad I did. I never would have purchased it otherwise. Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Feb 18, 2018 |
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FiestaDePantalones posted:Mine works so well I use it exclusively for Splatoon 2, but that's anecdotal evidence and all. Yeah, that's what I was hoping for. Setting up for a refund already was just half checking to make sure I'm not crazy and this *should* work on latest firmware and all. Thanks! Round two for a working controller up next. Metal Geir Skogul posted:How do you play Splatoon motion controls with a connected /single controller? I usually keep my joy-cons in a 3D printed grip, but the only time I split them is for Splatoon. See, I learned to play Splatoon with a giant touchscreen that weighs more than three Pro controllers combined. Also the SN30pro is wireless.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:How do you play Splatoon motion controls with a connected /single controller? I usually keep my joy-cons in a 3D printed grip, but the only time I split them is for Splatoon. Should be easier in the grip honestly. The original on the Wii U had you weild the entire gamepad and it felt natural
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onesixtwo posted:So, bought a SN30 Pro, but the thing spins madly when motion controls are enabled. I hope this isn't common? Product page says motion controls should work just fine on the Switch but latest firmware definitely isn't working. Going to end up having to refund and re-order through Amazon it looks. That's totally not normal no. Mine gyro aimed in splatoon the same as the pro controller honestly, far as i didn't have to learn a different feel for it. So keep on getting it replaced. Metal Geir Skogul posted:How do you play Splatoon motion controls with a connected /single controller? I usually keep my joy-cons in a 3D printed grip, but the only time I split them is for Splatoon.
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Yeah, I'm so used to tilting just the right joycon. Feels weird to tilt the whole controller. Guess it's how I learned.
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Spellman posted:Should be easier in the grip honestly. The original on the Wii U had you weild the entire gamepad and it felt natural All good squids know how to drive a bus. Had no idea only the right Joycon was used for motion. That is actually tempting to learn..
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LPG Giant posted:Is night in the woods enjoyable if you’re not from a small town so that won’t resonate with you at all? I'm not from a small town so I don't think that's integral. I think relevant experiences are more like: having fond memories of friends or a place you grew up that you're no longer close to, having been in an awkward young adult rear end in a top hat phase and realizing now how lovely you were, feeling lost/depressed because life didn't go the way you thought it would, having been in that awkward stage where your parents and other adults are more than just "grownups" to you but aren't quite your peers yet. Recognizing that actually the world is unfair and sucks but that's life and it's ok. Being in for some "capitalism hurts folks who don't really know how or why" helps too. Full disclosure I more or less dropped out of grad school and moved back home for a while so the game's concept of just trying to do your thing while your parents are like "ok that's great you had fun tonight but uh what are your plans?" hit me too. The game heavily invokes nostalgia for me, but not in the sense of pandering with references, more in that it paints a very specific picture of a specific life and through the way it does that it brings out my own feelings about my own life that is nothing like the game. I don't really know how to express that thought properly but hopefully it's coherent to you. In his review of Brokeback Mountain Ebert said that paradoxically the more specific a story is, the more broadly it can be generalized to other experiences, and that's kind of what I feel with this game. Bear in mind there's very little "playing", it's basically a 2d walking simulator. So if you don't want to walk around talking to people you can pass on it.
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