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Scaramouche posted:That was... actually not nearly as crazy and strident as I was expecting (old SNPP hand here). There's some interesting stuff here for anyone who wants a relatively well-argued opinion on the decline of the Simpsons. I don't actually agree with a some of it (I see "The Principal and the Pauper" as more of chaotic burn down the world moment rather than "The writers were out of ideas, and the fans were attached to what they already knew") but unlike a lot of material like this I can't imagine the author wiping flecks of foam out of his beard while he writes it. The old Simpsons comments were nuts. They rated Homer goes to College as terrible. I barely existed back in those days so thanks for archiving the old episode capsules.
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Doggles posted:Later known as Super Princess Peach, followed by Toadstool the Princess, and then ultimately Peach Loves a Cake. Super Princess Peach is a real game.
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Choco1980 posted:Super Princess Peach is a real game. Super Princess Peach was a video game based on the idea of women's periods makes them super over-emotional and then developing that into Peach getting super-powers from it. Thinking it was a collective fever dream is incredibly understandable. BIG FLUFFY DOG has a new favorite as of 19:28 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Super Princess Peach was a video game based on the idea of women's periods makes them super over-emotional and then developing that into Peach getting super-powers from it. Thinking it was a collective fever dream is incredibly understandable. Also, the plot is literally that Bowser steals Peach's "Vibe Scepter".
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Feb 23, 2018 20:11
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It was a pretty fun game though
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Feb 23, 2018 20:25
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It was cool but was sort of overly simplistic. Peach deserved a better game, honestly. No reason you can't have a game with a gimmick like that while also having some decent and challenging platforming.
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Feb 23, 2018 20:49
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Peach's game was Mario 2 where she was the objectively best character.
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Feb 23, 2018 20:51
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GrandpaPants posted:Peach's game was Mario 2 where she was the objectively best character. Also Mario Kart and Tennis.
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Feb 23, 2018 20:53
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Also Mario Kart and Tennis. Sorry but both of these games have Daisy and Waluigi, so no way is Peach the best character in them.
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Feb 23, 2018 20:54
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GrandpaPants posted:
Speaking of Mario 2, did you know in Japan its called Doki Doki Panic? And that there was an increasingly unrelated spin-off of Columbo where his wife solved mysteries?
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Feb 23, 2018 21:17
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SpacePig posted:Sorry but both of these games have Daisy and Waluigi, so no way is Peach the best character in them. No Daisy in Mario Kart 64, objectively the Best Mario Kart. I will fite you over this.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:19
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The Japanese version of Donkey Kong Country was called Donkey Donkey Panic.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:27
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What really gets my goat about Super Princess Peach is that I’ve never thought of Princess Peach as emotional. In fact, she’s always struck me as a very stoic figure. Sure she’ll call out to Mario when she’s in danger, but when she’s locked up in the bowels of some castle in the middle of Bowser territory, she’s always cool calm and collected. I can’t think of a time where she ever had any kind of emotional outburst, except for this one game where it’s suddenly her whole thing for some reason. The only reason for her emotions to be her gimmick in Super Princess Peach is because she’s a woman, and women are emotional, right?
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Feb 23, 2018 21:30
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Sir Lemming posted:IDK if it makes sense to use spoilers but why not. They insisted on killing her because the story doesn't really make any sense if they don't. They'd been building up to it for years. Ted frequently tells himself (and his kids) that he and Robin don't work, but that lady doth protest too much. It's the only way the show was ever going to end. It would have been better if it were 3 or 4 seasons shorter but that's the reality of successful television shows.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:33
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GrandpaPants posted:Peach's game was Mario 2 where she was the objectively best character. I guess if you like picking up items so slowly that you have barely enough time to get, like, two coins when you enter a warp world, sure. Toad is #1, all others are #2 or lower. Picks things up the fastest, runs the fastest,and his run/jump speed isn't affected by carrying something. The only exception is that one level that's full of falling logs, then use Peach or Luigi.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:39
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sassassin posted:They insisted on killing her because the story doesn't really make any sense if they don't. They'd been building up to it for years. Yeah, seasons 5-8 were pretty unnecessary. Some of 5 was good but it got pretty dire after that.
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The Missing Link posted:It's like anytime someone mentions Super Mario Bros 2 someone inevitably says "In japan, it's known as Doki Doki panic." You just have to accept that it's going to happen. Whenever Poison from Final Fight is mentioned people feel the need to discuss her gender status on different continents
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DrBouvenstein posted:I guess if you like picking up items so slowly that you have barely enough time to get, like, two coins when you enter a warp world, sure. I distinctly remember my 10 year old self telling me "Be Luigi in 5-3" I think there is a warp zone or something that you can only reach with his crazy high jump. Mario was def the worst character. I use Peach and Toad the most for sure.
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Flinger posted:Whenever Poison from Final Fight is mentioned people feel the need to discuss her gender status on different continents Post the comic.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Yeah, seasons 5-8 were pretty unnecessary. Some of 5 was good but it got pretty dire after that. Those latter seasons gave us more Robin Sparkles so you’re pretty wrong But yeah some stuff overstayed its welcome and I still can’t wrap my head around Marshall and Lilly owning more than one home (Ted gave them his apartment, Dowisetrepla, and the house they inherited)
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Feb 23, 2018 23:14
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sassassin posted:They insisted on killing her because the story doesn't really make any sense if they don't. They'd been building up to it for years. They in fact had already killed her years earlier. There's no other way to read the ending of 'The Time Travellers'. And the only real reason they didn't work as a couple was his wanting kids and her not. Which clearly doesn't matter in the future timeframe. What's really awful is the alternate ending on the last season DVD, which winds up showing all of the characters who do want kids rewarded with happy endings and Robin punished into becoming a sad, lonely cat-lady-but-with-dogs for not wanting kids/being infertile.
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Thranguy posted:They in fact had already killed her years earlier. There's no other way to read the ending of 'The Time Travellers'. I thought the alternate ending implied her and Barney got back together again At any rate Barney and Robin make a better couple because Ted’s a boring sadsack homebody while Barney’s more able to keep up with Robin’s implied absolute sociopathy and viceversa
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is it possible for a reboot to be so bad it makes its old version age better? One bold team dares to say 'absolutely yes let's do it'. You guys ever see Heathers, that old movie slash musical about a disfunctional pair of outcasts and high school's crazy rigid social circles ruled over by a trio of WASPy rich girls who destroy anyone not like them? What if we did that, but reverse? Wait why is everyone booing are you triggered??? https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-new-heathers-is-a-trumpian-lgbt-bashing-nightmare quote:The television reboot of Heathers opens with a guidance counselor asking the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Veronica whether or not she is “a hermaphrodite”—the implication being that even though she has a 4.2 GPA and a high SAT score, Veronica needs some sort of marginalized identity to get accepted anywhere other than her safety school.
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Calaveron posted:I thought the alternate ending implied her and Barney got back together again The wedding season shows at (extreme) length why Robin and Barney don't work as real, grown-up partners. As did the earlier season that put them together. Their relationship constantly hangs by a thread of last-minute heartfelt speeches. The "absolute sociopathy" makes each other miserable as anything other than casual friends.
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Feb 24, 2018 00:39
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The problem is at that point in the show, everyone was a sociopath.
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sexpig by night posted:is it possible for a reboot to be so bad it makes its old version age better? One bold team dares to say 'absolutely yes let's do it'. Did Reddit make this?
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sassassin posted:The wedding season shows at (extreme) length why Robin and Barney don't work as real, grown-up partners. As did the earlier season that put them together. But Barney’s better at the casual day to day aspects of a relationship while Ted’s all about the grand sweeping gestures that ultimately mean nothing though. I mean it was Barney that managed to help Robin land a job while sure Ted made it rain and stole the blue french horn but his future with Robin had fundamental and irreconcilable differences like children and again being a sadsack that stays at home
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If all they ever had planned for The Mother was to make her a brood mare for Ted that conveniently dies offscreen they shouldn't have cast one of the most charismatic actresses working today. Switch the casting, so the Robin Ted can't get out of his mind for decades lights up every room she's in and the wife he happily forgets is a human sulk, that might make sense.
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sexpig by night posted:is it possible for a reboot to be so bad it makes its old version age better? One bold team dares to say 'absolutely yes let's do it'. I remember watching the trailer and cringing really hard. They also already made a Heathers tv show. It was called Scream Queens.
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Calaveron posted:But Barney’s better at the casual day to day aspects of a relationship while Ted’s all about the grand sweeping gestures that ultimately mean nothing though. I mean it was Barney that managed to help Robin land a job while sure Ted made it rain and stole the blue french horn but his future with Robin had fundamental and irreconcilable differences like children and again being a sadsack that stays at home Ted does the big gesture to get the girl to go out with him, not to make up for whatever crazy bullshit he's been caught doing this week. Which is all the wedding season was with Barney. We don't see what happens after Ted gets Robin back at the end. Maybe they split again soon after. But all the big reasons they did so before have been resolved/removed by then. Galaxy Brain posted:If all they ever had planned for The Mother was to make her a brood mare for Ted that conveniently dies offscreen they shouldn't have cast one of the most charismatic actresses working today. Switch the casting, so the Robin Ted can't get out of his mind for decades lights up every room she's in and the wife he happily forgets is a human sulk, that might make sense. She's the love of his life, and he doesn't happily forget her. He's a lonely middle-aged man with nearly-grown kids, nothing wrong with moving on at that point. He's hardly Patton Oswalt. I don't think the show would be improved by making people feel glad the mother is dead at the end.
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sassassin posted:He's hardly Patton Oswalt. 
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Feb 24, 2018 04:38
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The couple times I've watched How I Met Your Mother the relationship between Jason Siegel and Alyson Hannigan really grossed me out. Very committed to monogamy in an excessive way.
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sassassin posted:Ted does the big gesture to get the girl to go out with him, not to make up for whatever crazy bullshit he's been caught doing this week. Which is all the wedding season was with Barney. What the show's dialogue says and what the show itself says are two very different stories. And I have no idea why you would drag that incredibly ugly, hateful opinion about a real human being who suffered real pain into this nice chat about TV shows.
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See this is an example of why having a plan and sticking to it is not always the best thing for a TV show. By the end of the series the showrunners should have realized "the mother is dead and it's really about getting Ted with Robin" no longer worked, for whatever reason. Similar example is a short lived show called Up All Night. The idea was Will Arnett and Christina Applegate as new parents (hence, up all night) but also she (or maybe both?) was involved in a TV show starring Maya Rudolph and that was funny and a source of laughs, and there was an assistant character named Missy who was quite funny. But for the second year they decided they'd drifted from the core premise, axed the show, axed Missy entirely (Rudolph still showed up now and again) and tried to be an entirely domestic sitcom. And it was boring. They should've stuck with what was working.
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Feb 24, 2018 05:20
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I'm glad HIMYM dead.
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Feb 24, 2018 05:23
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USA Up All Night was better. Bad movies with either Gilbert Gottfried or Rhonda Shear making fun of them/having big boobs was awesome. I think it's where I first saw Return of the Killer Tomatoes. And that movie is a comedy classic. One of the few sequels to surpass the original!
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At its height I thought HIMYM might be a spiritual successor to Frasier. They burned through quite a bit of goodwill really.
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:The couple times I've watched How I Met Your Mother the relationship between Jason Siegel and Alyson Hannigan really grossed me out. Very committed to monogamy in an excessive way. Ive only really seen snippets of that show. In what way is this shown? Like "you better not look at any other man/woman etc."?
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The main thing is Marshall has never been with anyone but Lily, and (mostly, I forget this bit) she hasn't been with anyone but him. But the show has always had that traditionalist bent. Like it's modern in the sense that gay relationships are cool and premarital sex is no big deal but monogamy is the ultimate end goal, and even Barney eventually must succumb.
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