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He's gonna "rabbit"? drat that is some slang there. I get it means escape or run away, but how do you get rabbit? Update on bottom of last page.
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You've never heard of someone rabbiting? I've heard that one before in the wild. As you said, it means book it.
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Feb 25, 2018 15:51
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Oh, we use "rabbiting" all the time in the 'hood. Down in the ghetto. Because I'm down, man. Anyway... Yeah, so you can get the Orc to retreat. I mentioned this a number of times during the last SR:R LP, but assault rifles can be very OP. A few rounds of a full-burst, and you can hold off everyone and retreat in good order. That's not what happened the first time I played this, of course. I had a hard time getting Dietrich out because of the loss in AP from the summon, and because I kept trying to haste my PC and Glory (whom I'd foolishly sent to try and cripple the Orc).
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Feb 25, 2018 15:58
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Kanfy posted:Note that the drone wasn't destroyed because the guard wasn't a decker controlling it. Autonomous drones are new to Dragonfall. Riggers are the drone specialists, not deckers. Deckers deal with the Matrix.
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Feb 25, 2018 16:03
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apostateCourier posted:Riggers are the drone specialists, not deckers. Deckers deal with the Matrix. I continue to be extremely qualified to run Shadowrun LPs. (Fixed)
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Feb 25, 2018 16:11
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I found that this fight works very well as your first training-wheels-off battle. its communicated clearly that poo poo had hit the fan and you should check the computer terminal >hold off the armoured ork at bay>run the gently caress away when the door opens. lots of games fail to communicate these sort of points clearly.
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Feb 25, 2018 17:01
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I do love that your first mission goes horribly, horribly awry, and it's all you can do to flee for your miserable life. Really sets up the idea that your team has stumbled onto something that is way over their heads. Kanfy posted:You definitely know you're dealing with Shadowrun when the Luftwaffe fighting a dragon is a thing that happened. 
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Feb 25, 2018 17:12
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It's back, bois!
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Feb 25, 2018 17:44
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I love the description of the characters in this series, but I feel they really nail it with the Security Captain. It's so to the point and perfect.
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Feb 25, 2018 18:09
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In general the amount of [descriptive text] in this game is like, several magnitudes higher than in Dead Man's Switch. I didn't actually realize it until making the jump from LPing that game into this one, but in a game with such simple visuals (and no voice acting) it really helps breathe more life into everything.
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Feb 25, 2018 18:19
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Assault Rifles are ridiculously good in this game and I made the ork retreat in my first playthrough of this. AR forever.
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Feb 25, 2018 18:22
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Good seeing an update. Looking forward to more. 
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Feb 25, 2018 18:50
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Siegkrow posted:He's gonna "rabbit"? drat that is some slang there. I get it means escape or run away, but how do you get rabbit? Rabbits are really fast and live in holes. Their natural move is to leg it for a hidey hole when they sense danger. Same general origin as the phrase "go to ground"
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Feb 25, 2018 19:20
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The Firelink Shrine comparison is really apt, I never thought of that.
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Feb 25, 2018 19:58
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An... an update? :rubs eyes: Y-You mean, this isn't just a thread for general SR lore and story swapping? (I josh, this thread is great and I'm glads you're back)
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Feb 25, 2018 20:25
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Blind Sally posted:Assault Rifles are ridiculously good in this game and I made the ork retreat in my first playthrough of this. AR forever. Seriously, I'm pretty sure you could do every mission in this game with just a decker and an AR street sam.
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Feb 25, 2018 22:10
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Yeah, I have the feeling that for all that Eiger talks about "five seconds of lethal biofeedback" whatever was living in that system didn't even need a second pulse to take out Monika.
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Feb 26, 2018 02:46
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All hail Glory. She takes the blood out of other people to put it back in you.
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Feb 26, 2018 06:18
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Right, time to fire up my other system. There's a bunch of achievements I'm still missing.
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Feb 26, 2018 06:43
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paragon1 posted:Seriously, I'm pretty sure you could do every mission in this game with just a decker and an AR street sam. The true answer is building a hybrid rifle/decker and sending your now obsolete team on vacation in Bonn. It should be still be a important city for the government in alternate SR 90s lore. That or a nuke/dragon/cosmic horror a fell on it. OutofSight fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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Feb 26, 2018 13:37
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PMush Perfect posted:The Firelink Shrine comparison is really apt, I never thought of that. I'm maybe a little biased in my fondness for it because DF's safehouse theme is in the top 3 video game ear worms for me. I don't think it'll ever vanish from my head. (The other two are the Gregminster theme from Suikoden II and Hell March from Command & Conquer Red Alert in case you were wondering)
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Feb 26, 2018 13:55
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Really happy to see an update. It's very easy to lose in the fight at the end there. Especially if you get overconfident because you've played the game before and think you know what you are doing. Mildly related: I did some pen and paper Shadowrun recently. Highlight of the evening was a container ship illegally parking on an island with one of the characters running forward for a better view. Naturally he went aboard alone to investigate before anyone else got there and was attacked by a berserking possessed guy. Very good taste.  (the pointless remixes for the sequels aren't anywhere as good)
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Feb 26, 2018 14:20
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Glazius posted:Yeah, I have the feeling that for all that Eiger talks about "five seconds of lethal biofeedback" whatever was living in that system didn't even need a second pulse to take out Monika. Yeah, she went from zero to fatal cerebral hemorrhage in about a tenth of a second. But Eiger wasn't there and she's not buying that, for the simple reason that it should have been impossible for it to happen. That's not "mysterious conspiracy" Black ICE. That's not even "government black ops" Black ICE. That's the kind of security you'd find on places like a Dragon's horde or a megacorp's most secret servers. So either the team hosed up and didn't notice the symptoms until it was too late, or they've stepped in poo poo so loving deep that they just passed the mariana trench and kept going. And she knows which one of those things is more likely.
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Feb 26, 2018 15:09
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One gets the feeling there may be just the tiniest smidge of projection going on there with ole Eiger.
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Feb 26, 2018 16:14
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As someone who grew up on C&C, this and the rest of Klepacki's classic soundtracks always makes me happy. RIP C&C 
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Fighting Trousers posted:One gets the feeling there may be just the tiniest smidge of projection going on there with ole Eiger. I have no idea why you'd think such a thing.  paragon1 posted:Seriously, I'm pretty sure you could do every mission in this game with just a decker and an AR street sam. To an extent, sure. Guess what my first character in this game was? But even so, and especially on hard, a shaman to help toss buffs and a melee user to pop people out of cover really helps a lot. Convenient that we seem to have those. Surely a coincidence, HBS. Kanfy showed some of that in this update, too. Trying to shoot through armor DR and cover damage mitigation is a long, slow road. Crits on out-of-cover enemies, though, that's something else.
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Feb 26, 2018 18:55
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Feuerschwinge being kinda obscure by the 2050's isn't that far-fetched. The early 21st century in Shadowrun Germany, and really worldwide, was just completely crazy to the point where it's kind of a miracle the whole planet didn't go into a full-on Mad Max style breakdown of civilization. Hell, the Federal Republic didn't survive as a political entity, and there's been multiple disasters and conflicts that overshadow Feuerschwinge by far. Case in point, they namedrop that she got shot down over the SOX. That'd be the Saar-Lorraine-Luxembourgh special administrative zone. Which was created after the Cattenom nuclear power plant went full Chernobyl. Magni fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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Feb 26, 2018 22:03
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Feuerschwinge being completely unknown is a bit of an infodump crunch, I'd have appreciated if the characters were a little more aware of things going down 20 years before their birth. For a Yank like me, it's like being unaware of the Selma march. Not necessarily something you could pull out off the top of your head in your mid 20s to early 30s, but definitely something you probably have heard about. And Dietrich has no excuse for not piping up. Learning that sort of history to the kids is what someone like him lives for.
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habeasdorkus posted:Feuerschwinge being completely unknown is a bit of an infodump crunch, I'd have appreciated if the characters were a little more aware of things going down 20 years before their birth. For a Yank like me, it's like being unaware of the Selma march. Not necessarily something you could pull out off the top of your head in your mid 20s to early 30s, but definitely something you probably have heard about. That's a really good point actually. Dietrich might actually have lived through that poo poo too, even if he was real young at the time.
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RickVoid posted:That's a really good point actually. Dietrich might actually have lived through that poo poo too, even if he was real young at the time. 42 years ago. And there was a lot of poo poo going down in the early 2010’s.
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Feb 27, 2018 06:56
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I am curious, what if Monika had a doc wagon platinum contract or whatever the equivalent is? Will a Doc Wagon team suddenly bust in to try and rescue their client?
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Feb 27, 2018 10:08
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Weissritter posted:I am curious, what if Monika had a doc wagon platinum contract or whatever the equivalent is? Will a Doc Wagon team suddenly bust in to try and rescue their client? The mansion isn't registered for extraterritoriality, so yes they would try. (In-game the contracts are just revive items though)
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Weissritter posted:I am curious, what if Monika had a doc wagon platinum contract or whatever the equivalent is? Will a Doc Wagon team suddenly bust in to try and rescue their client? From what I'm reading (my main source being the "Shadowiki", a German-language Shadowrun wiki which has a ton of information, especially for stuff relating to Germany - which will come in very handy for this game, I'd figure), BuMoNa (Bund für den Mobilen Notfallarzteinsatz, or basically "Association for Mobile Emergency Medical Services") will try to get you out of anywhere that isn't extraterritorial or corp territory if you have their High Threat Response package. So yeah, if the mansion isn't extraterritorial, they'd try to get in there and get her out, since if the mansion is corp territory (which honestly is quite likely - but that's just because it's Shadowrun and if it's some sort of secret lab like thing, odds of a corp being involved are very high... well, that or a dragon, I guess) it's not open corp territory, so there'd be no way for BuMoNa to know it's corp territory. Fun fact! BuMoNa, DocWagon and Careline (a company from the UK that does more of the same) actually have agreements with each other that allow people to take advantage of their services if they have contracts with a member of the agreement. So if you're a runner based out of Seattle with a DocWagon contract, but find yourself in Germany for a run, you can actually call BuMoNa and use your DocWagon contract.
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RickVoid posted:That's a really good point actually. Dietrich might actually have lived through that poo poo too, even if he was real young at the time. He would have been super young when the Dragonfall happened, but it is a bit of a miss that he's apparently unaware of it entirely. There's another 'historical' event mentioned later that your character really shouldn't be ignorant of, but honestly, most of the lore stuff is happened with a bit more subtlety. Considering the sheer amount of info they were working with, it's a pretty decent batting average on HBS's part to only have a couple of "As you know [expo dump]" instances happen in the game. Fighting Trousers fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Feb 27, 2018 |
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Feb 27, 2018 11:29
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I'd have more patience for Eiger's finger pointing if she didn't immediately jump on the "rookie", as opposed to the team medic, who is wared herself and so presumably knows something of biofeedback. It just feels like shes picking on Rosa because Monika snubbed her on the in charge aspect, which feels really petty, especially given Rosa was probably the best option of people who were actually present. But whatever, grief works in weird ways. And yeah, DocWagon HTR will go to a lot of trouble to rescue you, bearing in mind that anyone short of their Super Platinum (100k nuyen a year) contract is getting charged through the nose if any of the DocWagon team dies in the process of extracting them.
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Feb 27, 2018 12:43
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I'd definitely play Action first cyber responders the game if FASA made one.
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Feb 27, 2018 12:55
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Eiger's reaction isnt logical, but it feels natural.
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Feb 27, 2018 13:04
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With a different conversation path Dietrich will be like "throwing Rosa under the bus isn't going to help anything" to which Eiger responds with "under a bus is exactly where she belongs" which is kind of messed up but at the same time a pretty good line.
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Feb 27, 2018 13:47
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Podima posted:Eiger's reaction isnt logical, but it feels natural. Yep. I didn't hold it against her in my own playthrough because I figured she was hurting as much as my character would be. I ALSO played a human female mage in my game, but I can't remember which portrait I used.
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I do love Eiger's reaction, as well as everyone just in general going "gently caress gently caress what the loving gently caress!". It's just very natural that a good team would be going into panic mode, and be scrambling to figure out how screwed they are.
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