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Caphi posted:Sorry I'm exaggerating but "hey I have something really important to tell you, please don-" "HEY LOOK SOME METEORS sorry did you say something" doesn't really say "cares" in any sense whatsoever. "Hey look this amazing thing that doesn't happen very often and can be over in an instant" is a pretty valid interruption point, and she had every opportunity to repeat what she was saying but she opted to be coy about it instead.
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So the last page has been telling me to dislike 02 despite being a very interesting, cool character, for some reason - right?
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Grouchio posted:So the last page has been telling me to dislike 02 despite being a very interesting, cool character, for some reason - right? Lot of Ichigos in this thread if you ask me 
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Feb 26, 2018 07:41
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Eela6 posted:Lot of Ichigos in this thread if you ask me
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Grouchio posted:So the last page has been telling me to dislike 02 despite being a very interesting, cool character, for some reason - right? I've been typing big essays about how 02's characterization is good and makes sense and how it will be interesting to see how it develops.
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Feb 26, 2018 08:48
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I enjoy how when 02 is around Hiro her teasing and possessiveness are framed as being fun and cute, but when she's around Ichigo without Hiro she's a taunting bully. It's cool!
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Feb 26, 2018 08:59
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Grouchio posted:So the last page has been telling me to dislike 02 despite being a very interesting, cool character, for some reason - right? didn't you get the memo that characters aren't allowed to have flaws?
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Feb 26, 2018 09:03
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Zorome has come a long way since the first episodes, I like him a lot. Ichigo walking in Hiro's footsteps was sad and cute and her going past to lead the way for him was good. Zero Two is very powerful, and a bully. This was a good beach episode
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Feb 26, 2018 11:02
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The important question no-one has been asking: Why do the girls get three different swimsuit options but the guys all get the same shorts? Where are the sexy briefs? Where are the full length leggings? Huh? Answer me that, Papa!
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Feb 26, 2018 11:20
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The_White_Crane posted:The important question no-one has been asking: They are from the private collection of Dr. Franxx.
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Feb 26, 2018 11:35
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I think 02 is clearly more emotionally mature than the other characters. Her conflict with Ichigo is, imo, entirely because unlike Ichigo she knows exactly what the dynamic between them is. She pegged Ichigo as a "rival" for Hiro straight away but she also immediately knew that her and Hiro weren't compatible. Even Ichigo is only just starting to understand that her feelings are romantic in nature and because of this huge disparity in knowledge and maturity 02 can easily bully her about it. Ichigo only vaguely understands that they're competing for Hiro in a way outside of being his partner, but 02 already knows that shes overwhelmingly ahead. In general I think 02 is 5 steps ahead of the rest of the cast and is more manipulative than the shows revealed yet.
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Feb 26, 2018 12:34
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Nephthys posted:In general I think 02 is 5 steps ahead of the rest of the cast and is more manipulative than the shows revealed yet. I think this is interesting and is the general take but I'm beginning to wonder if it's actually true. 02 knows far more about love than the rest of the cast, and love has been salient to the plot of the initial arc so this has resulted in her appearing all-knowing. But in a setting where the parasites are emotionally mutilated by the adults and deprived of core knowledge, it's not obvious to me that her knowledge of love means she is a rounded person. All her positive interactions revolve around Hiro and love as she sees it. She hasn't demonstrated the ability to connect to people in a positive way other than through romantic love. This is what I found interesting about the beach episode. Hiro and the parasite gang are immature in many ways and their relationships are messy and imperfect, but they have a natural sense of friendship for each other. That's possible because they were raised in an unusual environment for parasites, a space where they're allowed to express their individuality and are largely left to run their own affairs with minimal supervision from the adults. The other parasite group we saw were effective soldiers, but we had no sense that they were friends as such. It's obvious 02 is outside that dynamic, and accepted within it only insofar as she brought Hiro back to them. At first blush, this is because the kids are a tight clique who all know each other, and they haven't made the effort to reach out to her and bring her in. I think that's the most likely reason. But after seeing 02 watch them laugh together from the sea this episode, I also entertain the hypothesis that 02 has literally no idea what friendship is. It's clear to her, presumably, that the others are important to Hiro, and at the least she doesn't find them threatening to her bond with Hiro (yet, anyway). But she resists any implication that she is in any way answerable to the other eight parasites, which is a major source of tension between her and Ichigo (besides the obvious). The question is whether that's because she thinks they're useless weaklings not worth emotional investment or because she doesn't have a script for socialising besides finding a lover and calling them Darling a lot.
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Feb 26, 2018 15:43
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Ichigo is basically the neck beard that can't get the hint that Hiro isn't interested. He's given her, what, 3 outs so far? Of course Hiro knows, they've spent their lives together.
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Lestaki posted:I think this is interesting and is the general take but I'm beginning to wonder if it's actually true. I think you're partially right in this, 02 doesn't seem particularly comfortable with actually integrating in with the group. But I wouldn't say that she's uncomfortable around them either, as you say neither side has really made an effort to reach out to the other. She doesn't have any problems hanging around them or responding to them when spoken to. It could be that she really just doesn't care enough to try and get to know anyone except Hiro and Ichigo or maybe like she's said a few times, she just sees them as useless weaklings and actively disdains them. It does seem likely though that shes actively unwilling to get closer to them. Wandering off to swim by herself seems pretty deliberately unsociable. She probably hasn't really ever made friends. But I'm not confident that she's ever going to bother with the others unless they really impress her somehow. Its tough to say how much of what she says is an act though. I do think that 02 knows a lot more the situation (in all aspects) than the other parasites and probably more than a lot of the adults and she certainly seems to have a firm handle on people and the ability to figure them out quickly. She got a handle on Hiro immediately (In fact, the first thing she says to him is "Oh? And here I thought you were dead." Theres definitely something more to his story.) and asked him to be her partner right away. I'd also say its ambiguous whether she means Hiro or the lake when she says she found one at the start of the series. She worked out Ichigo in their first meeting too and that she and Hiro wouldn't work. From her smirk she might have predicted Hiro's confession in ep 4. She also knew what was happening to him better than anyone else and was confident he'd be different than her other partners. And Dr Franxx warned Hiro not to fall for her lovey dovey routine suggests she's playing him to a degree. That's what I mean when I say she's way ahead of everyone. She seems to know whats happening in the plot way more than the other characters. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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Feb 26, 2018 16:55
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Sarcophallus posted:Ichigo is basically the neck beard that can't get the hint that Hiro isn't interested. He's given her, what, 3 outs so far? Of course Hiro knows, they've spent their lives together. Hiro doesn't know because he has no understanding of that stuff. Even with 02 he is way not getting it on the level 02 is.
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Sarcophallus posted:Ichigo is basically the neck beard that can't get the hint that Hiro isn't interested. He's given her, what, 3 outs so far? Of course Hiro knows, they've spent their lives together. what
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Nephthys posted:I do think that 02 knows a lot more the situation (in all aspects) than the other parasites and probably more than a lot of the adults and she certainly seems to have a firm handle on people and the ability to figure them out quickly. She got a handle on Hiro immediately (In fact, the first thing she says to him is "Oh? And here I thought you were dead." Theres definitely something more to his story.) and asked him to be her partner right away. I'd also say its ambiguous whether she means Hiro or the lake when she says she found one at the start of the series. She worked out Ichigo in their first meeting too and that she and Hiro wouldn't work. From her smirk she might have predicted Hiro's confession in ep 4. She also knew what was happening to him better than anyone else and was confident he'd be different than her other partners. And Dr Franxx warned Hiro not to fall for her lovey dovey routine suggests she's playing him to a degree. That's what I mean when I say she's way ahead of everyone. She seems to know whats happening in the plot way more than the other characters. Sure, she's perceptive in that sense. But a lot, though not all of that, is relating to reading romantic situations, which is undoubtedly an area where she has immense confidence and ability. She knows more about the setting than the protagonists, but I'm not clear whether she has any great understanding as such or just a soldier's sense for how to get what she wants from her superiors. She pushes back abrasively against Ichigo's attempts to do the leader thing but not particularly effectively, and she's demonstrated no ability to make friends, nor have we met any of her friends. The question is whether that's from disinterest (as she states) or inability. What I don't doubt is that a more rounded personality with her social skills would win over Hiro's friends for his sake if not for hers, so I do want to push back on the notion she's a manipulative genius for that reason. 02 is pretty narrow insofar as she wants to be with Hiro and she wants everyone else to stay out of the way of that, which is why I come back to the idea that romance is the only way she is interested in (or perhaps capable of) positively interacting with people. Lestaki fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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Kashuno posted:Hiro doesn't know because he has no understanding of that stuff. Even with 02 he is way not getting it on the level 02 is. Even if he doesn't have the words to express it, it is very apparent that he understands the difference between the platonic relationship he has with his peers, and the feelings he has about 002. He's let Ichigo down gently multiple times now, and if the roles were reversed you'd be making GBS threads on Hiro for not leaving her alone.
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Kanos posted:"Hey look this amazing thing that doesn't happen very often and can be over in an instant" is a pretty valid interruption point, and she had every opportunity to repeat what she was saying but she opted to be coy about it instead. Counterpoint: girl admitting to you that she's ok with just being your side piece is also an event that doesn't happen often. Self counter counterpoint: anime male protag
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Feb 26, 2018 17:18
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The_White_Crane posted:The important question no-one has been asking: Futoshi fans have been left wanting.
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The_White_Crane posted:The important question no-one has been asking: I'd be more annoyed if they all got the same boring one-piece and 02 comes out in the bikini and gets all the attention. I guess Gurren Lagann already subverted that, though.
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Sarcophallus posted:Ichigo is basically the neck beard that can't get the hint that Hiro isn't interested. He's given her, what, 3 outs so far? Of course Hiro knows, they've spent their lives together. but enough about you, let's talk about this mecha anime
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Feb 26, 2018 19:18
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Do a crossover where the FRANXX get to see how the Iron Blooded Orphans get fuckin murdered. Child soldiers are no joke
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Feb 26, 2018 20:18
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Dryzen posted:what I'm as confused as you are.
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Feb 26, 2018 20:41
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I don’t typically associate adorable innocence with being a neckbeard but what do I know? Also I feel any situation where 002 and Mikizuki would be a horrifying spectacle to watch.
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Ranzear posted:I'd be more annoyed if they all got the same boring one-piece and 02 comes out in the bikini and gets all the attention. I guess Gurren Lagann already subverted that, though. True, that would be groanworthy. But even so, I want my manservice, dammit!
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Disclaimer: I don't really like 02 and I find her a boring example of her character archetype. With that said, I think you guys are overestimating how much 02 actually knows about the world and relationships and such. The way she dangles the kiss thing over Ichigo sounds like that's as far as she knows and thinks it's a Super Big Deal but shows not a single hint of knowing what goes past that. Moreover, her idea of what a kiss represents (namely, "ownership") is not quite right. It looks to me like she managed to learn a bit more about the world and thinks herself more worldly than the rest (plus all the social darwinism stuff) while the irony is she's just as clueless as the rest. Also, her fascination with Hiro started with basically "yo you don't look scared of me" and then latched on, which to me reads more childish than mature. She plays a fairly childish fantasy of how romance "works" (pretty much cribbed off teen romance stories) but rarely ever stops to listen to others and pay attention to how they feel or what they want unless it relates directly to her, even with Hiro. Her conversation with Hiro before the big fight was very "me me me and you as a function of me".
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Hunt11 posted:I don’t typically associate adorable innocence with being a neckbeard but what do I know? Mikazuki kisses like he don't even give a gently caress, and he fucks like he kills. Right in the cockpit of a six story death robot.
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Feb 27, 2018 04:11
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02 and Ichigo are both really good and should kiss
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Feb 27, 2018 20:25
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she licked her face already, drat y'all thirsty
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Feb 27, 2018 20:40
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The To-Love-Ru artist is apparently already drawing NSFW fanart of them. Then again, that may be true for literally every character in every show in every season for all I know.
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Feb 27, 2018 20:45
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This post is useless without links
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Feb 27, 2018 20:47
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esselfortium posted:02 and Ichigo are both really good and should kiss
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Darth Walrus posted:The To-Love-Ru artist is apparently already drawing NSFW fanart of them. Then again, that may be true for literally every character in every show in every season for all I know. well he also draws the official manga, which actually has nudity in it
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DisDisDis posted:This post is useless without links  Oh, fine.
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Darth Walrus posted:The To-Love-Ru artist is apparently already drawing NSFW fanart of them. Then again, that may be true for literally every character in every show in every season for all I know. somebody linked me to the FRANXX subreddit once and let me tell you, there is a lot of nsfw fanart
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I dunno by the Sarcophallus' toxx rules of what's gay I don't think this is gay
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DisDisDis posted:I dunno by the Sarcophallus' toxx rules of what's gay I don't think this is gay That's pretty up there. Are we separating 'gay' and 'lesbian', or are we normalizing on the male experience?
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gay as in homosexual
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DisDisDis posted:I dunno by the Sarcophallus' toxx rules of what's gay I don't think this is gay Just friends undressing friends in an extremely heterosexual manner.
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