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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:I always thought the ladies going after him was kinda funny, given that Harry's so down on himself. He's tall, but described as being kinda gangly, hawk-faced, etc. I wish the female side of the supporting cast was a little better, and that's probably why I enjoy Verus a little more. I love Caldera. I think UF now is kinda where, say, Detective Fiction was in the 1890's when Doyle first started writing Sherlock Holmes. There were a few precursors (Poe / Glen Cook), but Butcher came along and like Doyle was the first person to put together 90% of the formula for the genre. It being the 21st century instead of the 19th, things develop a little faster, and so some other authors like Aaronovitch and Jacka are already putting the remaining 10% together before Butcher has even had a chance to finish, but I feel he still deserves a fair bit of credit for at least taking UF out of the romance-novel-with-sexy-vampires ghetto. Also this post was an advertisement for this month's Book of the Month: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3848449
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Bhodi posted:Remember the short story that was in a different point of view and dresden is described as mild mannered nerdy and gangly most of the time but in the blink of an eye turns into this incredibly intimidating person wielding immense terrifying power? Yeah, I think that's the Murphy one. She thinks he's a nerdy, chill dude until he starts using his wizard voice and then he's terrifying.
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There is nothing wrong with the psychological/literary device of 'power fantasy', hth, you can stop trying to out-proclaim each other how above enjoying it you are.
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Blasphemeral posted:Yeah, I think that's the Murphy one. She thinks he's a nerdy, chill dude until he starts using his wizard voice and then he's terrifying. She literally describes him as being autistic until it's time to start throwing power around.
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I like Seanan McGuire, but I just read a paragraph where she compares being fat to being Mexican-American.
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Beachcomber posted:I like Seanan McGuire, but I just read a paragraph where she compares being fat to being Mexican-American. Wasn't she the one that flipped out a few years ago over a comedian being named as the guest speaker at some convention she was attending because, for no particular reason at all, she was scared he'd pick on her?
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Megazver posted:There is nothing wrong with the psychological/literary device of 'power fantasy', hth, you can stop trying to out-proclaim each other how above enjoying it you are. Oh, no, I think it's great.
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Ornamented Death posted:Wasn't she the one that flipped out a few years ago over a comedian being named as the guest speaker at some convention she was attending because, for no particular reason at all, she was scared he'd pick on her? Yep. That happened. Jonathan Ross, who's a big UK TV personality and a big genre fan, was supposed to present Hugo awards. https://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/03/01/when-jonathan-ross-was-presenting-the-hugo-awards-until-he-wasnt/
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Megazver posted:Yep. That happened. Jonathan Ross, who's a big UK TV personality and a big genre fan, was supposed to present Hugo awards. That makes me sad when I read that. The Hugos do a good job of seeming.. cliquey? Or just something that I don't have a lot of respect for anymore.
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Megazver posted:There is nothing wrong with the psychological/literary device of 'power fantasy', hth, you can stop trying to out-proclaim each other how above enjoying it you are. My dude, I have read the Doom novelization seven times, and read the series 3 times. I own all the books. I know no shame. Hieronymous Alloy posted:I think UF now is kinda where, say, Detective Fiction was in the 1890's when Doyle first started writing Sherlock Holmes. There were a few precursors (Poe / Glen Cook), but Butcher came along and like Doyle was the first person to put together 90% of the formula for the genre. It being the 21st century instead of the 19th, things develop a little faster, and so some other authors like Aaronovitch and Jacka are already putting the remaining 10% together before Butcher has even had a chance to finish, but I feel he still deserves a fair bit of credit for at least taking UF out of the romance-novel-with-sexy-vampires ghetto. My biggest gripe with UF is that right now, all the big titles I can think of are always wizards. That, and there isn't enough "good" stuff to read. Once you check all the familiar big names off your list, you're usually left waiting a while for another release in a series you know instead of checking out someone new. Probably a good thing I can't keep reading one genre forever, but I enjoy it. Thanks for the reminder about the BotM. I've never regretted checking into those recommendations, and I appreciate the effort you put into it.
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:My biggest gripe with UF is that right now, all the big titles I can think of are always wizards. That, and there isn't enough "good" stuff to read. Once you check all the familiar big names off your list, you're usually left waiting a while for another release in a series you know instead of checking out someone new. Probably a good thing I can't keep reading one genre forever, but I enjoy it. Wizards/Sorcerers/Mages are more flexible as a trope than Shifter/Undead are for the genre. There have been attempts to do not-vampire vampires, they tend to end in sexytimes because there is a lot of market for sexytime vampire and authors have to eat.
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Captain_Person posted:I think Four roads cross really landed for me because it paid off so many characters story lines that had been on the back burner. And the deeper dive into the mechanics of the legal system. Still can’t wait to see where the series visits next.
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I didn't see anyone post it here, yet, but the new Libriomancer-series novelette "Imprinted" is out. https://www.amazon.com/Imprinted-Magic-Libris-Jim-Hines/dp/1982090154/ I haven't gotten around to reading it (I'm mid-MoonOverSoho, at the moment,) but it's next on my list.
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The only thing I hate about the Craft Sequence books is that for some reason Tor hasn't made audiobooks out of anything past the second, so I'm currently stuck there. Up to that point though, I consider them up there with Rivers of London and The Rook as the best UF I've read.
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If you count the Craft series as UF, you should really check out the Broken Earth Trilogy because holy poo poo it blows pretty much all of the other books we talk about out of the loving water.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:If you count the Craft series as UF, you should really check out the Broken Earth Trilogy because holy poo poo it blows pretty much all of the other books we talk about out of the loving water. FINE! I will then!
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biracial bear for uncut posted:If you count the Craft series as UF, you should really check out the Broken Earth Trilogy because holy poo poo it blows pretty much all of the other books we talk about out of the loving water. I wouldn't say Broken Earth is UF by any means, but it is a loving incredible trilogy.
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Dramatika posted:I wouldn't say Broken Earth is UF by any means, but it is a loving incredible trilogy. As someone who just read through it from the beginning this week: Ehhhhhhh
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Slanderer posted:As someone who just read through it from the beginning this week: Ehhhhhhh Ban this sick filth.
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Broken Earth is fine but don't read it if you look for happy from your fiction because they are not happy books.
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Slanderer posted:As someone who just read through it from the beginning this week: Ehhhhhhh It's just "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" as a trilogy
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I read Dresden 1-4 a few years ago. I thought they were pretty good, but I got a little burned out and tired of all the underworld politics, which I've almost completely forgotten. I'm thinking about picking up Death Masks; is there anything from the previous books I need to remember so I'm not lost?
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Lester Shy posted:I read Dresden 1-4 a few years ago. I thought they were pretty good, but I got a little burned out and tired of all the underworld politics, which I've almost completely forgotten. I'm thinking about picking up Death Masks; is there anything from the previous books I need to remember so I'm not lost? Y..you didnt enjoy Summer Knight?
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Y..you didnt enjoy Summer Knight? I meant to continue the series, but I got distracted reading something else and forgot about it until recently. To be honest, I'm looking at the Wikipedia page for Summer Knight and I remember maybe 15% of the plot summary. I remember finding a lot of the Winter Court drama really tedious.
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Lester Shy posted:I read Dresden 1-4 a few years ago. I thought they were pretty good, but I got a little burned out and tired of all the underworld politics, which I've almost completely forgotten. I'm thinking about picking up Death Masks; is there anything from the previous books I need to remember so I'm not lost? No, not really. Everything is explained if you need to remember. If you want those kind of, brief aside glances wink wink, I would re-read Bianca's ball again. Also remember that Harry owe's Mab now.
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Why does Cassie start speaking twice, like "YesYes" in the middle of Nightmare Stacks? I assume it has something to do with her face model dying. But that speech tic seems to come out nowhere and I don't remember it being explained or discussed. Also, I finished Delirium Brief and it made me upset. Cliffhanger was almost Changes level.
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Beachcomber posted:Why does Cassie start speaking twice, like "YesYes" in the middle of Nightmare Stacks? To be fair, experiencing death in that way and waking up knowing that someone just died horribly after days of being tortured would gently caress with your head right good, even if you are an inhuman spy. And yeah, nothing good is going to come from Mo surviving the confrontation between The Mandate and The Sleeper.
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Diane Duane probably wrote the first Urban Fantasy that many of us read - So You Want To Be A Wizard. It's YA fiction from before it ever acquired that label, but incredibly well done! It's also the start of a 9-book series that ends up being quite mature and introspective for kidlit. I've gone back to re-read it several times over the years. Unfortunately, she's going through some real financial issues right now, and is asking for some assistance in the form of ebook sales to help her and her husband out.
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Of all the UF I am familiar with, Sandman Slim really does seem like the series that would shine the most on the big screen by a fair margin. Really hope this ends up happening and does well.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:If you count the Craft series as UF, you should really check out the Broken Earth Trilogy because holy poo poo it blows pretty much all of the other books we talk about out of the loving water. these were pretty good. great characters and interesting conflict. In some ways i felt it suffered for being fantasy/scifi - the magic bits almost distracted from the interesting bits, the conflict within and between groups and the effects of oppression and dehumanisation. but I've guess you've gotta have a plot to hang your story on. Worth reading fo sho. Absolutely not UF in any way but who gives a poo poo. General Emergency posted:There's nothing wrong with power fantasy and why pretend there is?
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cultureulterior posted:I recommend 'The Hum and The Shiver', about redneck elves. Yeah the Tufa books are cool!
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For what it's worth, the current Audible sale has book 1 of basically every recommended series on sale for 5-6 bucks- and Iron Druid. Dresden, Sandman Slim, Rook, Atrocity Archives, etc.
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A little update for Dresden folks: 6 weeks to finish, then what, 4-6 months for final publishing?
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Vicissitude posted:A little update for Dresden folks: Jim has made similar claims about how much time was left to finish a book in the past and they've almost universally been gross underestimates. I wouldn't start anticipating a release until he confirms that the manuscript has been sent to his editor.
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Vicissitude posted:A little update for Dresden folks: Who is that awful woman and why is Jim letting her anywhere near his fans? There's enough entitlement in that post to run the local DMV
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