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This election is important, because it's going to be reflected in a lot other countries in the EU, I think. Both France and Germany also have slowly self-destructing centrist parties, so what has happened to day in Italy could easily happen both there. The migrant panic has reached critical mass, it seems, and it + the slow suffocation caused by austerity is the new reality of the EU It'll probably work for a time, too - the abuse of austerity and capitalism run amok, will successfully get sublimated into attacking out-groups. in the interim period, it should be expected that state power will be directly targeted against leftist groups as well, as these guys get into positions of power. so expect fascist murders to rise. but they'll ultimately be incapable of solving the slew of problems that are gonna come up soon, including the collapse of the housing bubble + debt economy, because the far-right is totally incompetent when it comes to policy that actually works, and they'll never reign in capitalism. stay safe, filthy euros
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I hate to say it, but China may be the literal last hope in the world right now
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rudatron posted:I hate to say it, but China may be the literal last hope in the world right now *Laughs Xishly*
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The Lion Corbyn strikes again
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rudatron posted:I hate to say it, but China may be the literal last hope in the world right now By god that's Lin Biao's theme song
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The CCP are saving cinema with a Mike Tyson vs Steven Seagal movie about neocolonialism and saved gaming by banning microtransactions and chinese players from interacting with the outside world
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Mar 5, 2018 15:34
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the votes have been cast and the winner is... nyc guido voice!
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Someone shot an African in Florence
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Lawman 0 posted:Someone shot an African in Florence quote:Police said they had found a suicide note in the suspect’s apartment and that checks on social media had shown he had a passion for guns. They did not identify the victim or suggest a motive. 
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Mar 5, 2018 16:15
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Karl Barks posted:The Lion Corbyn strikes again
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Visidan posted:never heard of an italian not being able to talk about immigrants, they usually don't call them by that term tho Oh no they do, the various euphemisms are a pretty recent thing. It's that "immigrant" always carried negative connotations, hence the positive rebranding to "migrant", in turn negatively rebranded with "economic migrant" Just another crazy guy, nothing to see
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hah, probably cribbed that from the Australian government we've been using different terms for over 2 decades. asylum seekers and refugees become economic refugees and illegal maritime arrivals depending on who is talking. the asylum seekers in our offshore concentration camps are called detainees if it's a conservative talking
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Mar 5, 2018 16:43
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The "best" totally not racist term, though, is "extracomunitary", i.e. an immigrant from outside the EU, i.e. someone who looks different enough. I wonder if Romanians have been removed from that category, now that they've been in the EU for a decade (but to many people they're interchangeable with the Roma and you know how Italians feel about them). Oh and of course it will only be applied to, say, the Swiss in jest. It's one of those terms that tries really hard to put a name on the intangible quality of "people who feel like Our people"
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Mar 5, 2018 16:54
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Did 5 star give numbers for their gmi plan?
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hackbunny posted:The "best" totally not racist term, though, is "extracomunitary", i.e. an immigrant from outside the EU, i.e. someone who looks different enough. drat that's some amazing racist tech, i think my country being an island has stunted our growth in that area. they just stopped at island prisons
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Feels pretty great to have the chance to re-live the 1930's but with computers
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MikeCrotch posted:Feels pretty great to have the chance to re-live the 1930's but with computers we're living in an uncreative black mirror ep
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rudatron posted:I hate to say it, but China may be the literal last hope in the world right now the Italian government doesn't have the best track record for inspiring global hope, it's like always a poo poo show
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Mar 5, 2018 18:13
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Looking forward to Ixit or Italout or Arrivedexit
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Frijolero posted:Looking forward to Ixit exIT
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Leave the EU, take the cannoli.
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rudatron posted:This election is important, because it's going to be reflected in a lot other countries in the EU, I think. the world is going to be hosed in a few years and we may need another world war to get this poo poo out of our systems
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This was not the worst result imo. Seems Italians first voted for anti-establishment reform. The weaknesses of the traditional parties allowed the 3rd place winning fascists, but not because they have mass appeal.
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get that OUT of my face posted:europe's been trending this way for a couple of years. at least france might have a left movement in its next elections, but in numerous countries there isn't one. hungary is too far gone, poland's reaching that point, austria's neo-nazi-ish party is pretty close to power, and there's no way the german grand coalition will work well enough to hold off the AfD weird how every country where the centre-left are unrepentant lovely neoliberals are paving the way for a populist right wing revival weird
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now it's time for the Italian Left to mount a comeback, first order of the day: kill the bad dem party or take it over
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Kurtofan posted:now it's time for the Italian Left to mount a comeback, first order of the day: kill the bad dem party or take it over I have exactly zero hope of this. Negative hope even. You can't blame apathy or "liberalism fatigue" like with Trump: turnout was high (although in steady decline) and the defeat of leftist ideals very clear Lawman 0 posted:Someone shot an African in Florence The culprit explained that he lost the nerve to kill himself, and decided to get jailed instead (???), so that he wouldn't be a burden on his family anymore (???). Out he walked, resolving to kill the first person that crossed his path (???). Since the first people he came across were a couple with kids, he settled for the second: a random peddler. You be the judge
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He had a carry permit. They're, supposedly, extremely hard to get unless you're police or military, but people who obsess over "the right to self-defense" (as this guy apparently did on his Facebook profile) somehow always get them
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Frijolero posted:Looking forward to Ixit
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MikeCrotch posted:weird how every country where the centre-left are unrepentant lovely neoliberals are paving the way for a populist right wing revival
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LinYutang posted:what's the italian left's excuse for sucking so much Look up operation gladio and propaganda deux. The literal answer is US interference in the cold war creating a shadow government tasked with systematically destroying the concept of leftist politics.
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LinYutang posted:what's the italian left's excuse for sucking so much There are no leftists in Italy
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LinYutang posted:what's the italian left's excuse for sucking so much literally, unironically, it's all america's and britain's fault
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Byolante posted:Look up operation gladio and propaganda deux. The literal answer is US interference in the cold war creating a shadow government tasked with systematically destroying the concept of leftist politics. sure but you can't just blame america tho i know that is extremely en vogue
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