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I still haven't seen Go either but I've been meaning to for ages.
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Counterpoint: my ex got motion sickness from the first Bourne movie, and I didn't mind walking out at all. Every shot was either shaky can or two heads filling the entire screen, except for the cutaways to the JLaw of that moment sitting in a telephone switching room.
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Mar 14, 2018 13:43
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brocked posted:except for the cutaways to the JLaw of that moment sitting in a telephone switching room. Julia Styles!?!? She was absoutely not the "J-Law" of 2002, my dude.
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Mar 14, 2018 17:52
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Julia Styles!?!? She was absoutely not the "J-Law" of 2002, my dude. LOL I forgot she existed at all until this very post. Her and everyone else was so bad in the Omen remake.
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Mar 14, 2018 19:37
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Julia Stiles was extremely hot and the last Bourne film ended on a sour note for me by killing her off and having a lovely final fight with Vincent Cassel. That's all I have to contribute. Edit: Now I feel all gooey and nostalgic for Letters to Cleo and poo poo, goddamn you cursed 90s Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Mar 14, 2018 |
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Mar 14, 2018 19:45
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Save The Last Dance made over 125 million.
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Mar 14, 2018 19:46
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Julia Styles!?!? She was absoutely not the "J-Law" of 2002, my dude. That's her name! I was thinking it was Leelee Sobieski or one of the other interchangeable blondes Hollywood cycles through about every 10 years.
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Mar 14, 2018 20:04
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Basebf555 posted:Save The Last Dance made over 125 million. Dude! The Hunger Games did that in, like, a weekend. brocked posted:That's her name! I was thinking it was Leelee Sobieski or one of the other interchangeable blondes Hollywood cycles through about every 10 years. Leelee Sobieski was the forbidden fruit in Eyes Wide Shut and did a great job! She was not interchangeable! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
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Mar 14, 2018 20:05
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Dude! The Hunger Games did that in, like, a weekend. Oh yea, sorry I was just throwing that out there apropos of nothing. Just thought it was surprising. Anyway it was made for like 10 mil so I'd consider that a pretty big hit.
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Mar 14, 2018 20:06
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Basebf555 posted:Oh yea, sorry I was just throwing that out there apropos of nothing. Just thought it was surprising. Anyway it was made for like 10 mil so I'd consider that a pretty big hit. Absolutely! sorry about the crossed wires.
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Mar 14, 2018 20:17
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I like that I googled both Stiles and Sobieski and "Why Hollywood Won't Cast [Name] Anymore" was on the first page of results both times. As if a popular young actress seeing her career wither away in her late 20s is in any way peculiar.
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Mar 14, 2018 20:20
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Would the best compromise here be to try and mix the two approaches, a la The Raid or the aforementioned Killzone 2? Essentially wild OTT poo poo that still ends up looking brutal as all hell. This and a lot of Bruce Lee/Jackie Chan era movies. Also, one of the things I enjoyed about Flash Point was the traditional MA vs more mma style of Yen's character. Blade is a good one. Blade is always a good one. I feel like the Bourne movies and Nolan's Batmen were an over correction after a long period of action movies aping Crouching Tiger and the Matrix. Tezcatlipoca fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Mar 14, 2018 |
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Mar 14, 2018 20:24
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Halloween Jack posted:I like that I googled both Stiles and Sobieski and "Why Hollywood Won't Cast [Name] Anymore" was on the first page of results both times. As if a popular young actress seeing her career wither away in her late 20s is in any way peculiar. The one I always see is Brendan Fraser.
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Mar 14, 2018 20:31
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Wheat Loaf posted:The one I always see is Brendan Fraser. With Fraser they always want to imply it had something to do with that video of him failing to clap correctly, but really it was that he got fat and doughy.
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Mar 14, 2018 20:37
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Tezcatlipoca posted:I feel like the Bourne movies and Nolan's Batmen were an over correction after a long period of action movies aping Crouching Tiger and the Matrix.
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Mar 14, 2018 20:50
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Bourne is weird because the action in the first movie is fairly clean and clearly edited, and had quite a bit of praise lumped on the coreography.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:10
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Wheat Loaf posted:The one I always see is Brendan Fraser.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:13
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I think there was also something about him getting seriously injured on a movie set in that article as well, which also contributed to him being less able to take on leading man roles.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:17
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Fart City posted:I think there was also something about him getting seriously injured on a movie set in that article as well, which also contributed to him being less able to take on leading man roles. He had to have multiple back and knee surgeries because of his stunt work.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:26
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He's one of the stars of FX's next prestige drama, the one about the Getty kidnapping. Although speaking of Highlander and different versions reminded me of how the original trailer for the 4th movie had a ton of FX shots in it that never made it into the movie and didn't really have a place in the version that got put to theaters.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:43
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muscles like this! posted:Although speaking of Highlander and different versions reminded me of how the original trailer for the 4th movie had a ton of FX shots in it that never made it into the movie and didn't really have a place in the version that got put to theaters. Those bits (like Connor in the exploding crystal ball, or Connor and Duncan jumping through a portal) were literally shot and produced for the trailer. Yes, they blew part of their already cartoonishly limited effects budget on stuff that would only be seen in the trailer.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:47
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Tezcatlipoca posted:This and a lot of Bruce Lee/Jackie Chan era movies. It was that they were aping them without fully understanding them. Both are fantasy films in different ways, which is why the action looks the way it does. In the Matrix, it's a program running 'fight.exe' with people that can break the rules. In the other, it's set a long time ago. Good fight man and colossal rear end in a top hat Donnie Yen has a rule that the further ago something is set, the more people fly. It generally holds true Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Leelee Sobieski was the forbidden fruit in Eyes Wide Shut and did a great job! She was not interchangeable! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! Leelee Sobieski's IMDB picture was changed to a pomeranian for a short while before anyone noticed, if you needed another reason to feel sorry for her.
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Mar 14, 2018 23:07
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What makes Donnie Yen a huge rear end in a top hat? I never heard anything about him.
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Mar 14, 2018 23:23
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Ego-bot posted:What makes Donnie Yen a huge rear end in a top hat? I never heard anything about him. The one I know is he's just a massive egotist. In the commentary for 'Iron Monkey' (which is really good) he bangs on constantly about every little thing he came up with for the movie and how good it was that some people could keep up with him.
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Mar 14, 2018 23:28
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So a man with huge talent is a bit arrogant. Who cares
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Mar 15, 2018 01:34
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Wandle Cax posted:So a man with huge talent is a bit arrogant. Who cares No, Jackie Chan has huge talent. Donnie Yen has a much smaller amount of talent, yet many times the ego. Hence people not liking him. Snowman_McK fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Mar 15, 2018 |
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Mar 15, 2018 01:44
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Well he's no Jackie Chan but nobody is. Still if Donnie wants to talk up his huge talent on a dvd commentary more power to him.
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Mar 15, 2018 04:32
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Snowman_McK posted:No, Jackie Chan has huge talent. Donnie Yen has a much smaller amount of talent, yet many times the ego. Hence people not liking him. I’d say Yen is the better actor and they’re equals in regards to their fight choreography. I might even give Yen the edge there. He has this grace to his moves that I enjoy
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Mar 15, 2018 04:42
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sponges posted:I’d say Yen is the better actor and they’re equals in regards to their fight choreography. I might even give Yen the edge there. He has this grace to his moves that I enjoy I think that the first part of what you said is definitely on point. Ip Man was the first time in a long time that I was legitimately impressed by the acting in a Kung-Fu movie. Egotistical dick or no, the man has some serious chops both in terms of emotional range and physical prowess.
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Mar 15, 2018 05:25
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sponges posted:I’d say Yen is the better actor and they’re equals in regards to their fight choreography. I might even give Yen the edge there. He has this grace to his moves that I enjoy No. No. No loving way at all. Maybe the acting, but the acting in the fight scenes edge goes to Chan. The choreography isn't even close. I admire Yen's commitment to trying new things in fight scenes (like incorporating BJJ and more boxing style striking) but he's actually succeeded about three times, while Chan has been succeeding, consistently, for decades. Even his later age output is better than Yen's stuff in the same time frame. But Drunken Master 2? Police Story 1 and 2? Armour of God? Wheels on Meals? Come on, man
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Mar 15, 2018 05:57
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Snowman_McK posted:No, Jackie Chan has huge talent. Donnie Yen has a much smaller amount of talent, yet many times the ego. Hence people not liking him. Who doesn’t like him?
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Mar 15, 2018 09:24
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Snowman_McK posted:No. Yeah...I prefer Yen over Chan. Sorry.
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Mar 15, 2018 11:56
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Yen is like 55 and really only came into his own about 10-12 years ago. The body of work just isn't there compared to what Jackie has done, when Yen was playing a supporting role in Iron Monkey in 1993, Jackie already had like five all time great action movies under his belt(conservatively).
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Mar 15, 2018 13:59
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For years how many of Yen's roles only existed because they needed one more dude and he was already there choreographing (and I don't mean that as a knock against Yen at all) when Chan was already a leading man for decades. It's a pretty apples/oranges comparison to me and not really one worth making considering Chan's massive body of work.
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Mar 15, 2018 14:02
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Snowman_McK posted:Maybe the acting, but the acting in the fight scenes edge goes to Chan.
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Mar 15, 2018 14:41
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It's too bad that Jackie Chan and Tom Cruise never made a big stunt movie together when Cruise had a couple of Mission Impossibles under his belt and Chan was at the height of his Hollywood era.
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Mar 15, 2018 15:07
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Feels like this is as good a time as any to post the awesome Every Frame A Painting that dissects why Jackie Chan is such an incredible physical performer: https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1s&v=Z1PCtIaM_GQ
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Mar 15, 2018 15:28
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That or you could just watch Jackie Chan: My Stunts on repeat.
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Mar 15, 2018 15:41
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Fart City posted:Feels like this is as good a time as any to post the awesome Every Frame A Painting that dissects why Jackie Chan is such an incredible physical performer: That sequence about editing the two shots together to show the impact of the elbow is my everything.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:That or you could just watch Jackie Chan: My Stunts on repeat. Tezcatlipoca posted:That sequence about editing the two shots together to show the impact of the elbow is my everything.
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