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2 | 1.77% |
| the voice of the voiceless, the new CM Punk |
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| Vince McMahon's nemesis who Vince definitely doesn't favor in any way |
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19 | 16.81% |
| also wondering why there was a cameraman in the women's lockerroom |
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47 | 41.59% |
| THE BIG DOG! |
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34 | 30.09% |
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Incessant Excess posted:They also mentioned another Superstar Shakeup on Raw this Monday, so presumably some Smackdown guys as well. I thought the rumor was if they got Fox it would go back to being a single roster
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Mar 14, 2018 22:12
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USA has them throughout 2018 I think, with a potential network switch happening in 2019. A long time to fill with feuds.
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Mar 14, 2018 22:14
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speaking of which it cracks me that they keep talking about how the New Day are the first and only team to hold both the Raw and Smackdown tag team titles which is true only because they used to be called the WWE and World tag team titles
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Mar 14, 2018 22:31
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It occurred to me that Roman basically also said outright that he lives paycheck to paycheck, because apparently making WWE main eventer money for nearly four years is so bad that if he didn't show up for work, he wouldn't be able to feed his family anymore.Mel Mudkiper posted:speaking of which it cracks me that they keep talking about how the New Day are the first and only team to hold both the Raw and Smackdown tag team titles which is true only because they used to be called the WWE and World tag team titles They did this with Bliss being the first woman to hold the Raw and SmackDown women's titles too and it's like, no poo poo, she was literally the first one to get a shot at it because the SmackDown women's title had only existed for about six months at the time. MJeff fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 14, 2018 |
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Mar 14, 2018 22:46
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VJeff posted:It occurred to me that Roman basically also said outright that he lives paycheck to paycheck, because apparently making WWE main eventer money for nearly four years is so bad that if he didn't show up for work, he wouldn't be able to feed his family anymore. Spending it all on Johnny Bravo's roids 
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Mar 14, 2018 22:47
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Yeah, WWE titles are just a confusing, over bloated mess that I just kind of laugh whenever they try and do "lineage" achievements like Bliss or the New Day. I'm not even sure what "Randy Orton Became A Grand Slam Champion" means. Like... did he win every title he was eligible to hold during his run? Has he held every tag title? Do only singles count? He never held the WWE Undisputed title, right? Or the ECW one? Has he held the Universal? Is that just supposed to be the same thing as whatever belt he held when he was on RAW? Its just pointless. Which is fine. Title lineages are largely pointless and tend to devolve into nerdy obsessions. But I roll my eyes when WWE tries to invoke them.
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Mar 14, 2018 22:51
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Like, NJPW has made a pretty strong case that you have a modern wrestling promotion that is successful and has a stable champ. The belt-hopping is an Attitude Era relic that I really don't like
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Mar 14, 2018 22:53
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VJeff posted:It occurred to me that Roman basically also said outright that he lives paycheck to paycheck, because apparently making WWE main eventer money for nearly four years is so bad that if he didn't show up for work, he wouldn't be able to feed his family anymore. Undertaker told him to invest all his money into coal.
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Mar 14, 2018 22:55
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, WWE titles are just a confusing, over bloated mess that I just kind of laugh whenever they try and do "lineage" achievements like Bliss or the New Day. I'm not even sure what "Randy Orton Became A Grand Slam Champion" means. Like... did he win every title he was eligible to hold during his run? Has he held every tag title? Do only singles count? He never held the WWE Undisputed title, right? Or the ECW one? Has he held the Universal? Is that just supposed to be the same thing as whatever belt he held when he was on RAW? The current Grand Slam is defined as "One top championship (WWE or Universal) + Intercontinental Championship + US Championship + One tag championship (Raw or SmackDown)". To be honest, I think that's an accomplishment that means something. Before we got four new ones this year (Jericho, Dean, Roman, Randy), it was a pretty small amount of guys who had managed that.
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Mar 14, 2018 22:57
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Roderick and Cedric had an awesome match on 205 this week. Always makes me happy when the crowd comes alive and starts chanting/cheering during these shows. Also typing that made me remember Roderick used to team with a Sedrick way back when. Whatever happened to that guy? Ganso Bomb fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Mar 14, 2018 |
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Mar 14, 2018 23:21
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i wonder what would happen if WWE just randomly did a like 7 year reign, Sammartino-style
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Mar 14, 2018 23:36
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Low Desert Punk posted:i wonder what would happen if WWE just randomly did a like 7 year reign, Sammartino-style Being the "Top Guy" seems to mean more than possessing the belt, so we basically had this with Cena.
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Mar 14, 2018 23:41
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Austin spent like half the Attitude Era not even holding a belt despite being The Guy. His longest title reign was 175 days in 2001. For context, Jinder held the belt 170 days.
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Mar 14, 2018 23:46
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Benne posted:Austin spent like half the Attitude Era not even holding a belt despite being The Guy. This is crazy
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Mar 15, 2018 00:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddeKAaB7Nrs Patronising Big Wool best gimmick of 2018
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Mar 15, 2018 00:14
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VJeff posted:It occurred to me that Roman basically also said outright that he lives paycheck to paycheck, because apparently making WWE main eventer money for nearly four years is so bad that if he didn't show up for work, he wouldn't be able to feed his family anymore. Listen bitch, I didn't save my money and I have to eat ramen every night of the week. But because of my job here I'm able to eat ramen so I'm grateful for what this company has given me!!!
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Mar 15, 2018 00:50
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By making main eventers seem poor, wwe proves that the extremely rich and profitable company is much more important and prestigious than any of the wrestlers could ever be. come see WWE featuring wwe superstars created by wwe
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Mar 15, 2018 01:05
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Fast lane good?
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Mar 15, 2018 01:12
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Gaz-L posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddeKAaB7Nrs didn't he break his thoracic spine?
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Mar 15, 2018 01:26
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Cavauro posted:By making main eventers seem poor, wwe proves that the extremely rich and profitable company is much more important and prestigious than any of the wrestlers could ever be. come see WWE featuring wwe superstars created by wwe In 20 years there will only be one wrestler they can trot out to any kind of reaction and it will be John Cena. It's sad.
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Mar 15, 2018 01:33
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Within a few years there will be someone named WWE Man in a full body suit at all times who only ever says safe for tv cuss words. at live events You will only be able to buy separate parts of his suit, like the gloves or mask, and nothing else will be available
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Mar 15, 2018 01:45
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Aside from the suit being full body, you've just described John Cena
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Mar 15, 2018 01:50
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WWE is so obsessed with "nobody bigger than the brand" they go the opposite direction and make everyone look like unemployable losers who would be homeless and destitute if it wasn't for the McMahons' endless benevolence and you should be grateful, BITCH
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Mar 15, 2018 01:55
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So when did WWE exactly become obsessed with pushing "the brand" over the talent to such an irritating degree?
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Mar 15, 2018 02:01
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piss tape israel posted:So when did WWE exactly become obsessed with pushing "the brand" over the talent to such an irritating degree? When people like Lesnar, The Rock and Lashley left.
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Mar 15, 2018 02:09
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I remember back in the day when Randy Savage left for WCW and Vince appeared to be on the verge of tears trying to explain why he was gone. They've always been weird about people "leaving" them, it's just that over the years it's devolved into being downright cult-like.
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Mar 15, 2018 02:13
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John Cena says too many non cusswords in this biiiiiiiitch
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Mar 15, 2018 02:14
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piss tape israel posted:So when did WWE exactly become obsessed with pushing "the brand" over the talent to such an irritating degree? Probably as soon as the brand became bigger than the talent There is not a single superstar who is a big enough name to work anywhere other than the WWE and make a dent in WWE's popularity
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Mar 15, 2018 02:17
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DeathChicken posted:I remember back in the day when Randy Savage left for WCW and Vince appeared to be on the verge of tears trying to explain why he was gone. They've always been weird about people "leaving" them, it's just that over the years it's devolved into being downright cult-like. It doesn't help when the people who leave come back, because it enables their mentality
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Mar 15, 2018 02:34
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If you wanna point to a point where they went SUPER crazy with it, that's probably when Punk left.
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Mar 15, 2018 02:43
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a new study bible! posted:This is crazy Unless my math is wrong: Austin first won the WWF title in 1998. He lost his last one 4 years later and retired the next year. There was only 5 years between 'Austin 3:16' and the Invasion For comparison, Roman Reigns won his first title 3 years ago. So next year his main event career will be almost as long as Austin's. Cena won his first title 13 years ago Orton 14 years Triple H 19 years It gives you an idea of just how fleeting the Attitude Era and Austins career was compared to today.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Unless my math is wrong: Austin's time as the unquestioned top babyface only lasted ~20 months.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Probably as soon as the brand became bigger than the talent TNA had a legitimate chance to compete but lol TNA
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Mar 15, 2018 03:10
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I feel like this is part of why Austin is still so fondly remembered- he wasn't on top long enough for us to get sick of him. The Rock too, he lasted a bit longer but then went to Hollywood. Foley of course retired (then unretired then really-really retired etc.)
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Mar 15, 2018 03:13
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TNA never had a legitimate chance to compete
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Mar 15, 2018 03:13
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I posted this question elsewhere, so may as well post it here. Question for everyone here. Would you say that today's micromanagement of the wrestlers and their personas (in WWE) is a lot worse than it was in the Attitude Era or whatever? Reason I ask is because I've seen arguments Asuka, Shinsuke, Andrade, etc and all other foreign talents in WWE are harmful to the product because they can't cut a promo in English at all. Problem is, I feel like its more of a micromangement/scripting issue. These people went on to claim that there was the same level of micromanagement in the Attitude Era, and as a result its the performers faults for not getting over/being able to do promos.
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Mar 15, 2018 03:26
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From what I recall of Foley's books around that time, the promos weren't nearly as micromanaged. They had bullet points, make sure you hit "This this and this", otherwise it was wing it.
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Mar 15, 2018 03:30
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DarkstarIV posted:I posted this question elsewhere, so may as well post it here. Stop reading Wrestling Forum
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Benne posted:Stop reading Wrestling Forum It's not just there either. It's been brought up on other mediums as well. Including brought up by people I'm friends with on Facebook. 
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