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Caganer
Feb 15, 2018

catlord posted:

I mean, the PNW gets weird news stories too, but generally it's stuff like this, or this, because Florida really is unusually open with their records.



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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Obsoletely Fabulous posted:

That is super disturbing and scary. It made me sick to my stomach. To top it off you know a large portion of people are just going to dismiss it because they are porn stars.

The taped "do's and don'ts" might not even be enough to prove anything one way or the other either. If the person says something like "I'm ok with slapping in the face, but not excessive" now you have to have a group of people sit around watching porn trying to decide if it was "excessive" or not while the defense attorney constantly replays the video of her saying she was OK with it. It's a loving mess of an industry practice. Basically:

quote:

“It was a rough shoot. I like rough sex. I love rough sex. It wasn’t consensually rough. I mean, yes, I was consenting to it, but it was just way rougher than it needed to be.”

Could be a get out of jail free card for a competent defense attorney.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Mr. Flunchy posted:

"Havrilla’s attorney, Anthony Jackson, told The Washington Post in a phone interview that Havrilla “has no criminal record whatsoever. They’re making it seem like it’s a negative situation, but it’s really not. There are some things that haven’t been said that will clear up everything eventually.”

Can't wait to hear the perfectly reasonable explanation for all this.

It was totally just renovation!
http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/24910-couple-says-peeping-tom-crawled-into-their-attic-drilled-holes-to-watch-them-in-bedroom
I wonder if the holes he drilled in the wall between their houses was just renovation as well.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/macabre-bag-containing-27-pairs-of-human-hands-found-in-bag-on-amur-river-island/
Imagine going out for some nice, calm fishing only to spot a severed hand... And then finding a bag of 54 of them.

Tulalip Tulips
Sep 1, 2013

The best apologies are crafted with love.

Sarcopenia posted:

http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/macabre-bag-containing-27-pairs-of-human-hands-found-in-bag-on-amur-river-island/
Imagine going out for some nice, calm fishing only to spot a severed hand... And then finding a bag of 54 of them.

Creepy. It reminds me of this but all in one place, with hands instead of feet, and deliberate instead natural or whatever the newest severed foot phenomena explanation is.

Caganer
Feb 15, 2018

Sarcopenia posted:

http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/macabre-bag-containing-27-pairs-of-human-hands-found-in-bag-on-amur-river-island/
Imagine going out for some nice, calm fishing only to spot a severed hand... And then finding a bag of 54 of them.

personally i think it's a little weird to sit and count the hands

fistful of hammers
Nov 11, 2011

Sarcopenia posted:

http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/macabre-bag-containing-27-pairs-of-human-hands-found-in-bag-on-amur-river-island/
Imagine going out for some nice, calm fishing only to spot a severed hand... And then finding a bag of 54 of them.

If photos of 54 frozen hands is something you don't want to see don't click on the link...

SilkyP
Jul 21, 2004

The Boo-Box

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

I went to see the Sondheim musical Assassins recently, which is pretty much my favorite musical. It's a story in which all the famous assassins and would-be assassins of US history meet together at a carnival, interact and debate with each other about their motivations and justifications for wanting to assassinate the president, and enact their attempts/successes.


Overall the version I saw was a great staging, and the cast was excellent, with the standout being their Charles Guiteau (assassin of James Garfield). I checked around YouTube to find a good example of just Guiteau's scene, but almost none I found (except the JMU and the Stockholm linked below) have the insanely manic presentation that the version I saw in Minneapolis recently had. Some of the other Guiteaus are kind of staid and stiff, but the version I saw, the actor was like he was on a coke bender, and cakewalked up to the scaffold.

The actual real events of Guiteau's assassination and execution actually are pretty unnerving and fit this thread.

Guiteau was a failed lawyer who submitted an unsolicited speech to candidate James Garfield, which apparently Garfield actually did present a couple of times during the campaign. A narcissist who probably had other serious mental issues, Guiteau felt his speech was what put Garfield over the top to victory, so started writing and visiting the administration asking to be made Ambassador to France for having contributed the speech. He was dismissed as a nuisance by Secretary of State James Blaine, so feeling he was guided by God, and also that the shooting would strategically bring Chester A. Arthur to the presidency and Arthur would fire Blaine, he resolved to kill the president. Guiteau, as I mention in a previous post, went to buy a gun, but didn't have the extra dollar to upgrade the grips on his snub-nosed .44, but the dealer gave him a discount. Guiteau wanted ivory grips because he figured they would look better in a museum someday.

Guiteau stalked Garfield for weeks, eventually approaching him at the main train station in DC and shooting him twice in the back. Garfield lingered 11 weeks before dying of infection. If he'd been shot just a decade later he'd likely have lived, since antisepctic procedures were just about to become a big deal, but as it was doctors poked around his bullethole with unsanitized instruments and caused the infection that killed him.

Below is the Wikipedia account of the day Guiteau was hanged, where his most urgent priority was that he be allowed, while standing on the scaffold, to recite a poem he wrote:




If you want to see a full video of Assassins, the best one I can find on YouTube is a production by JMU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM8PJcBoVow

It's not ideal in that it's before a live audience so you get their reaction, but the audio is reasonably clear, lighting okay, camerawork meh, but it has the best Guiteau I've could find on YT.

If you want to see Guiteau's assassination and execution, check out 106:16 for the "Ballad of Charles Guiteau"

My second-favorite song is at 25:27, "Lucky I was There", which is about Zangara's attempted shooting of FDR, where it contrasts a bunch of vapid tourists talking about how cool it was to see an attempted assassination and claiming credit for foiling it, against Zangara strapped into the electric chair and ranting against how the media has lied about his motivations.



Weirdly enough, the single best full-play video of it I can find on YouTube (in terms of audio/framing/clarity) is the Stockholm production... in Swedish. So if you speak Swedish, or just want to see a cool staging you can't understand, this one is pretty spiff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdS9T5_1E08&t=2571s

Guiteau sounds like a soy boy to me

TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007

Pretty Little Lyres

SilkyP posted:

Guiteau sounds like a soy boy to me

The actor playing him, or the actual guy who murdered the president?

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

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TapTheForwardAssist posted:

The actor playing him, or the actual guy who murdered the president?

Yes.

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fistful of hammers posted:

If photos of 54 frozen hands is something you don't want to see don't click on the link...

Ugh trying to match them up is the worst part, plus I’m always losing them in the dryer.

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

fistful of hammers posted:

If photos of 54 frozen hands is something you don't want to see don't click on the link...

I wonder if they had to count them by hand

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Your Gay Uncle posted:

I wonder if they had to count them by hand

Specifically, I hope that they did, someone made a comment about it, and then the next hour was spent arguing over whether or not this was an example of irony.

TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007

Pretty Little Lyres

Your Gay Uncle posted:

I wonder if they had to count them by hand

Gotta hand it to you, that's funny. Anyone else think so? Show of hands?

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Thumbs up from me.

Kid Fenris
Jan 22, 2004

If someone is reading this...
I must have failed.

SilkyP posted:

Guiteau sounds like a soy boy to me

He abused his wife and caught syphilis from prostitutes, so he was definitely a Real Man.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

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You're not my Sherry!
Going back to capital punishment chat, Oklahoma has announced it’s going to switch to nitrogen gas as its execution tool, since they can’t get the right lethal injection drugs anymore and keep loving it up with the replacement stuff.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Pirate Radar posted:

Going back to capital punishment chat, Oklahoma has announced it’s going to switch to nitrogen gas as its execution tool, since they can’t get the right lethal injection drugs anymore and keep loving it up with the replacement stuff.

Should nitrous them so they at least think it's funny before they wahwahwahwah there way to death.

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





In other Oklahoma news, a bond agent shot an unarmed man in the back and the verdict came back not guilty! She set up a meeting in her office, locked the doors and tried to apprehend him for non-payment of premium. He got upset and tried to go out the window so she pulled a gun out of her desk and shot him. Oh and her 19 year old son was there to see it happen. The state just released the footage and I won't link it. There's nothing graphic it's just hosed up. Her business page reviews are pretty funny though.

http://ktul.com/news/local/stillwater-bondswoman-chasity-carey-found-not-guilty-in-murder-case

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Untrustable posted:

In other Oklahoma news, a bond agent shot an unarmed man in the back and the verdict came back not guilty! She set up a meeting in her office, locked the doors and tried to apprehend him for non-payment of premium. He got upset and tried to go out the window so she pulled a gun out of her desk and shot him. Oh and her 19 year old son was there to see it happen. The state just released the footage and I won't link it. There's nothing graphic it's just hosed up. Her business page reviews are pretty funny though.

http://ktul.com/news/local/stillwater-bondswoman-chasity-carey-found-not-guilty-in-murder-case

She looks like an Andromeda character.

MightyJoe36
Dec 29, 2013

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Solice Kirsk posted:

Should nitrous them so they at least think it's funny before they wahwahwahwah there way to death.

Why not just OD them on Heroin or Morphine or something.

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

MightyJoe36 posted:

Why not just OD them on Heroin or Morphine or something.

It would feel good?

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


Is there a reason they don't just fill a room with nitrous and kill them that way? Seems like that would be incredibly easy and humane.

...oh :smith:

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MightyJoe36 posted:

Why not just OD them on Heroin or Morphine or something.

We wouldn’t want to condone drug use

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Biscuit Hider
Twitter surprised me with this when I was on last night. Don’t click this if you’re squeamish about eye stuff.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/meth-ripped-out-eyes-drugs-kaylee-muthart-south-carolina-a8250926.html

If you don’t want to click the link but want to know the gist 20 year old with bipolar disorder gets high on meth and gouges out her own eyes

I just.. ugh. I know biologically we all have an aversion to eye injuries but I’m definitely more squeamish about that than the average person I think. I could never do contacts.

The sad part is that if she’d been diagnosed earlier and gotten the help she needed it never would have escalated so far.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Scathach posted:

Is there a reason they don't just fill a room with nitrous and kill them that way? Seems like that would be incredibly easy and humane.

...oh :smith:

Nitrogen is actually a pretty humane way of execution. It doesn't trigger any suffocation reflex. It's just one minute everything feels normal, and then lights out.

I mean if we absolutely have to kill someone, displacing oxygen with nitrogen is probably the most painless method.

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!



I watched a documentary about the death penalty a while ago and the presenter came to the same conclusion; that Nitrogen displacement would be a much more humane method.

He put this to a proponent of lethal injections, and his response was basically "These guys are murderers, why do you care about how they feel?"

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Pretty sure you drown during a heroin overdose.

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


Proteus Jones posted:

Nitrogen is actually a pretty humane way of execution. It doesn't trigger any suffocation reflex. It's just one minute everything feels normal, and then lights out.

I mean if we absolutely have to kill someone, displacing oxygen with nitrogen is probably the most painless method.

Same. Better than stabbing someone with a ton of needles and poo poo. At least they wouldn't feel any pain.

But, 'murica.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

fruit on the bottom posted:

Twitter surprised me with this when I was on last night. Don’t click this if you’re squeamish about eye stuff.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/meth-ripped-out-eyes-drugs-kaylee-muthart-south-carolina-a8250926.html

If you don’t want to click the link but want to know the gist 20 year old with bipolar disorder gets high on meth and gouges out her own eyes

I just.. ugh. I know biologically we all have an aversion to eye injuries but I’m definitely more squeamish about that than the average person I think. I could never do contacts.

The sad part is that if she’d been diagnosed earlier and gotten the help she needed it never would have escalated so far.

As someone who was an undiagnosed bipolar person for years this scares the poo poo out of me. If I had chosen the wrong group of friends I c3ould have easily been living on the street and or done something like this to myself. And yeah, nopenopenope to ouchy eye, ears and nail stuff.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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I'm at work so can't look for it, but there used to be that youtube video of the guy that thought the government put something in his eye to track him and he's sitting there picking the membrane off the side of his eye for minutes until he gets a little glop of it off and holds it up to the camera wit h the corner of his eye starting to bleed saying "See! I told you!"

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Solice Kirsk posted:

I'm at work so can't look for it, but there used to be that youtube video of the guy that thought the government put something in his eye to track him and he's sitting there picking the membrane off the side of his eye for minutes until he gets a little glop of it off and holds it up to the camera wit h the corner of his eye starting to bleed saying "See! I told you!"

Ugh, I remember that one, possibly the most uncomfortable thing I've seen on the net.

Caganer
Feb 15, 2018
The story behind this picture is creepy as gently caress - the last moments of a victim of the truck stop killer

Caganer has a new favorite as of 15:24 on Mar 16, 2018

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Caganer posted:

The story behind this picture is creepy as gently caress - the last moments of a victim of the truck stop killer



That picture :smith:

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Might want to spoiler that image.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Inspector Gesicht posted:

Might want to spoiler that image.

It's already been posted about fifty times in this thread.

MightyJoe36
Dec 29, 2013

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Solice Kirsk posted:

Pretty sure you drown during a heroin overdose.

I read somewhere that the reason a lot of people OD is that they're trying to achieve that high that is the ultimate euphoria but it ends up being enough to kill them.

Lethal Injection is supposed to be a "humane" way of executing somebody (just "putting them to sleep") so if that's what they're going for, my way seems a lot more humane.

If not, then just drop all pretense and use a bullet to the back of the head.

Acute Grill
Dec 9, 2011

Chomp

MightyJoe36 posted:

If not, then just drop all pretense and use a bullet to the back of the head.

"Humane" execution is also for the benefit of the executioner, witnesses, and anyone taking care of the body/cleaning up. Otherwise we'd just be obliterating people with a giant robot Gallagher or some poo poo.

Nitrogen displacement would work the best for both the prisoner and everyone else involved but to get it imllemented as a method of execution, you'd have to get past the objections anybody against the death penalty as a whole as well as the bloodlust brigade.

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Caganer
Feb 15, 2018

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Might want to spoiler that image.

It’s not particularly graphic but ok

Randaconda posted:

That picture :smith:

This was her before - apparently he cut her hair? :ohdear:



I first read that longread right before driving across the country for a job, and there are a lot of creepy as gently caress truck stops



Caganer has a new favorite as of 15:29 on Mar 16, 2018

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