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I know that at this point we are talking about alpha play money (aUEC or sth), but I really cannot wait for posts such as these if the manage to make a game.  Or even worse posts if they don't manage it at all. The only thing better than SC not releasing is it releasing. edit: catte 
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D_Smart posted:Me? I don't care for outrage culture. I grew up on Usenet. Nothing fazes me. Except chimp avatars. That poo poo needs to be locked down. Sorry for the post from the past but my eyes rolled hard enough that they damaged the part of my brain that understands what a waste of time engaging with Derek is.
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The first unlimited money exploit after they stop using "alpha" money will be  The hundreds and hundreds found after that will also be but not as much as the first.
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Dusty Lens posted:I remain amused that the single most entertaining and not broken helicopter simulator I've played to date is GTA V.
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Mar 16, 2018 16:53
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i'm going to earn money with the pgabz method of editing my user.config file and manually changing my wallet balance to 180 million bazillion UAC 
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Lack of Gravitas posted:i'm going to earn money with the pgabz method of editing my user.config file and manually changing my wallet balance to 180 million bazillion UAC I'm going to earn money by doing this and selling the ships I buy in-game on the grey market This is how Star Citizen will replace all the world's economies
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Mar 16, 2018 16:59
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Foo Diddley posted:I'm going to earn money by doing this and selling the ships I buy in-game on the grey market Star Citizen JPEGs = Cryptocurrency of the future?
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Beet Wagon posted:Sam here. My friends recently were trying to get me to buy something called Earthfall, some dumb early access thing. I was like "tell me if it's good" and it turns out nope, it's a $15 Left 4 Dead clone that's all broke as gently caress. Granted, it's pretty easy to find a Let's Play of any game you're interested in nowadays but drat I wish I didn't feel like I was rolling the dice with every Steam purchase. It looks very reminiscent of a game called "Hard War". Not sure if this is what you're thinking of though.
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Pash posted:Star Citizen JPEGs = Cryptocurrency of the future? They will go to the moon, figuratively and literally
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Mar 16, 2018 17:03
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Lack of Gravitas posted:I'm still amazed Derek thought his buddies in the Pentagon would have information about a soldier from another nation's army during a conflict from fifty years ago LOL I forgot about that. I forgot Derek went balls-to-the-wall crazy with his "state department" and "state Ag" and "federal" contacts. Holy poo poo.
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The Titanic posted:Oh! I also forgot: What would creepy manchild posing as a man-rabbit with sex dolls in crates behind him while holding a crossbow be categorized as?
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monkeytek posted:What would creepy manchild posing as a man-rabbit with sex dolls in crates behind him while holding a crossbow be categorized as? peak citizen
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I saw  talk again so I felt like I should of pop in to the thread for a bit and say hi.
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D_Smart posted:^this. All of it. I think your arrival on the scene was the big turning point in making it not just a "this is bad" situation but an "oh poo poo" situation. Beer4TheBeerGod was hammering away at them, slowly growing more and more "hostile" to the core values of the project. He had such logical qualities that people couldn't help but agree with him. He wanted and expected results. He even sent them beer gifts and such. He was the equisential backer with Star Citizen as his beef. He was what they wanted... at first. Smart Heavily involved A firm believer Had charisma others could easily follow Could convey topics sensibly Etc As he started to shift, I'm sure they still felt they could quell the tide. Sure things were looking bad, people actually were starting to have "expectations" that we now know CIG never intended to or could back up their lies with. While they were showing ridiculous poo poo like players manually loading missiles, Beer4TheBeerGod was wanting things fixed in stuff like the Arena Commander section, and wondering why things kept getting worse and not better. This was something they may still be able to control. But then you, Derek, came on scene suddenly. You had a big stick and a big blog and you tore them to pieces. What we know now is that you came in and literally hit the nail right on the head. Your qualms were real, the issues you brought up were genuine, the things you told them they were doing and failing they actually were doing and failing. This was a turning moment for CIG as it turns out. Did they have enough control over their people to force them, by literally deleting stuff and yelling and screaming and creating witch hunts, to get backers to ignore the truth? As it turns out, they did! And still do! They managed to take a "community" that was already turning hostile and split it almost down the middle, while retaining enough valid backers and people with money to keep going. To Chris and crew, that huge letter to the Escapist to them was their last shot at retaining legitimacy to them. The project was sinking fast and it took this insane push to shred their own community into a bloodbath and expunge people Willy nilly and go on about "FUD campaigns" and somehow have enough people not look at them like they were absolutely crazy. It was ultimately Derek that caused the cult to appear and grow. CIG had no choice but to convert the product from a "video game we're making" into some kind of a "you're our family" type thing, and hugged their members close and encouraged them to hate the FUDsters. Since then CIG management has retracted and let things go on autopilot and turn into more of a non stop marketing blitz to keep people spending money. But for a year or two Chris and Sandi were hugely involved with getting this extremist "experience" set up and in place. It lead to much comedy and ultimate disappointment that a real company can stoop so low. That it's all over a dumb video game that everybody knows is impossible make only makes it more embarrassing. But it's why it's my favorite game I've never played. 
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monkeytek posted:What would creepy manchild posing as a man-rabbit with sex dolls in crates behind him while holding a crossbow be categorized as? He was part of the Second Life section. Where CIG led people to believe they could live a literal virtual life. Encouraging it with stuff like luxury yachts, ships equipped with hot tubs, etc. They also nailed hard into the fetish market with stuff like how piracy would work and bathrooms. All this stuff drew out the "kind of odd" folks.
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ManofManyAliases posted:I hate moldy bread Much better.
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Dementropy posted:Much better. 
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Dusty Lens posted:If it manages to land without hitting one of eight ships rubber banding around the landing area and occasionally sinking into the ground I'll buy back in. We need riskier buy baxx. If a planet at only one point leaves its designated position and strikes an innocent party I will buy back in. (PS, I never bought in)
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Thanks! It's back! I feel like all of ourselves again! edit: sorry. Myself. I feel like MYSELF again. ManofManyAliases fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Mar 16, 2018 |
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Also as an addendum the ability for CIG to create a boogie man mostly in Derek but also slightly "anybody who doesn't totally believe" like goons won them several years of freedom and support. "Defeating Derek" was now seen as a viable solution for people to "help Star Citizen become a game". It was as if Derek was personally stopping their programmers from working because he made posts. And somehow. Some way... people believed this. They likely still do. This lead to stuff like Reddit's Derek "archive" and other creepy stuff CIG encouraged and allowed people to go crazy, and it caused the community to go hugely toxic. Once it was "ok" that Derek could be a target, so too could other people. Post a poor review? You're toast by masses of people! Like a bad review is going to stop a programmer from writing code somehow. It made no sense, and continues to make no sense, except for one fact: Since day 0 CIG has been lying to people. Nobody played the entirety of Squadron 43 two years ago. It doesn't exist then like it doesn't exist now. Etc etc etc. CIGs biggest defense to keep excitement today is to continue the lies, and also ignore the past. Look at the future, backer! Look at the tanks and the land! Look at all the cool ships were almost done with! Ignore the over a half decade and we still have basically an almost tech demo. Ignore that. Look at the future! The only thing CIG has is the concept that they are a good stable company making the worlds most difficult game and succeeding where many have failed. That's the thread CIG is hanging from. There's no proof of it. It's just an idea. A concept of success. How long until it breaks? No idea!
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Number19 posted:I saw Hello again friend. Please convince your compatriots to sell CIG your awesome robot models for our entertainment.
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The Titanic posted:
This is not true. I've seen this at the LA office.
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ManofManyAliases posted:Thanks! It's back! I feel like all of ourselves again! AV is good again. Let it flow. Rub it out.
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Pixelate posted:We need riskier buy baxx. If the game is at any point actually fun to play I will buy back in. Hey wait that was what I've been saying all along. -- Also, anyone who remembers Outer Wilds, kickstarted space game from 2015, it's finally finished and out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS2KB_cFrTo
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Beet Wagon posted:Hello again friend. Please convince your compatriots to sell CIG your awesome robot models for our entertainment. I feel like this would be very unlikely. I'm not a business guy though.
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ManofManyAliases posted:This is not true. I've seen this at the LA office. If by "play through" you mean run "CryEngine.sq42.exe" and it crashes to desktop immediately with a "Thanks for playing Squadron 42!" error, then sure, people have indeed seen all that Sq44 has to offer.
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The Titanic posted:All this stuff drew out the "kind of odd" folks. ook i know we have had games before that looks like they where worthy of being named a second life. but this game..this game just connects with me. The ships. The art. The whole universe. If not multi verse that will be this game. I get chills thinking about this game and i use the term game lightly. This is undoubtedly the game I've wanted and am getting. Being able to travel from one system to another and the time of travel is not a down side its a plus. 20? 30? i don't care if its 40 mins to a system. When i'm in my Max all i can think about is jumping and just getting out of the pilot seat and going to the bathroom, eating, laying in the bed, taking inventory of products in my cargo hold. Listing to music waiting to get to my destination. Getting stopped and shook down by pirates or crooked cops and having to buy them off or hopefully knock them out. If i could i would just disable their ship and radio someone to pick them up and be on my way. It fascinates me. Land Claims? Getting your own peace of soil on a moon or planet or asteroid. Buying some metal or hiring someone to build you a base and a little landing pad to park. I Picture a planet green with trees and high mountains and falling waterfalls with oxygen being in a higher concentrated state but still livable to our frail human bodies. Maybe above the waterfall to the side or halfway down where the water fall splits or even inside the waterfall who knows. (Good way to clean the Max fast with that big body lol) Big windows. Big rooms. luxury. Having people over to party to hang out to go take the old rovers for a spin and explore the planet or race the m50's across the water and fish tailing the back end around floating rocks. The possibilities are endless. Ships? Oh the possibilities. I see myself working my butt off with my Max making a dollar here and there and saving all i have to go to a bigger and bigger ships and one day owning a fleet of starliners and loaning those out to other players to make my money off the top. I'll dable in trade here and there but ill be happy with making enough uec to buy any toy i want such as a 85x or a bunch of tumbril's to load into the old Max and take to the races that the community will make. Maybe one day a 600I to go sight seeing with friends and just taking out for a spin. Going to a station or a planet and offering 500 uec specials to take passengers out to distant sights just enough to cover for the fuel. I'll be wanting to fund fun events like races and buildings and roads and new this new that apartments you name it. You remember me and when you want to make the next event and you need to hire a Terra former or need funds for supplies or transport id be happy to fund a portion of it for a cut. Donations also if i just love love the idea. There is so much more that's coming. So much more to do. So much to see and experience in this new universe. CIG please take your time make this game the best it can be. And to any who might read this please tell me what you daydream nay what you dream about in this game. Also any artist drawing of this game or related in some way would be awesome. What i see myself doing one day is laying back in a 890Jump making my fortune and giving back to newcomers and vets to keep this game alive well after im old irl. I wish i could just buy all the things i want in this game now but then again. The road to 890 sounds good to m
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Sarsapariller posted:Awful lot of gravity in space. Good thing the space-based salvage ship for scavenging space hulks, in space, has giant shocks. 10% of the ship mass is hinges, but the doors still don't work. It's a metaphor.
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Number19 posted:I feel like this would be very unlikely. I'm not a business guy though. Serious question: Is there any kind of general consensus at PGI about CIG, or do y'all mostly not even give a poo poo? I ask because to a lot of gamers both companies exist in a similar kind of space (CryEngine, some... questionable sales practices, Transverse, etc) and it's not uncommon to hear jokes about "$500 gold mechs" in a Star Citizen thread. Personally I feel like it's not a great comparison, seeing as you guys have a game (almost 2 now!) and have actually bounced back from the bigger mistakes, but I always wonder if maybe some people there look at CIG and go "Well thank gently caress we're not doing that" or if everybody is too preoccupied to remember they exist.
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Number19 posted:I feel like this would be very unlikely. I'm not a business guy though. how about just the gold ones?
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The Titanic posted:I think your arrival on the scene was the big turning point in making it not just a "this is bad" situation but an "oh poo poo" situation. You could say I was the bogeyman they needed, not the bogeyman they deserved. 
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Oh yeah, this is gonna go down really well I think https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/974694817828655106 https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/84vwnv/an_open_letter_to_cloud_imperium_games/ ----------------
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Dante80 posted:ook i know we have had games before that looks like they where worthy of being named a second life. but this game..this game just connects with me. The ships. The art. The whole universe. If not multi verse that will be this game. I get chills thinking about this game and i use the term game lightly. This is undoubtedly the game I've wanted and am getting. Being able to travel from one system to another and the time of travel is not a down side its a plus. 20? 30? i don't care if its 40 mins to a system. When i'm in my Max all i can think about is jumping and just getting out of the pilot seat and going to the bathroom, eating, laying in the bed, taking inventory of products in my cargo hold. Listing to music waiting to get to my destination. Getting stopped and shook down by pirates or crooked cops and having to buy them off or hopefully knock them out. If i could i would just disable their ship and radio someone to pick them up and be on my way. It fascinates me. This dude is very much wanting The Sims and adventure and open world exploration experience. With a smattering of management, racing, and trade stuff thrown in there. But mostly it's The Sims in multiplayer. What you really need to dig up though is the guy who's this desperate to get their hands on Sq46. Because that's what CIG is actually focusing on. It'd be nice to know at least somebody out there is foaming at the mouth for Chris Roberts' movie game experience. That might be the one person who ends up happy in this whole mess!
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intardnation posted:how about just the gold ones? I'm pretty sure anyone can add gold skins to their items for sale and charge a premium if they'd like.
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D_Smart posted:You could say I was the bogeyman they needed, not the bogeyman they deserved. You are. Literally some days I have to wonder if Chris Roberts fronts you a check, and this is actually the best long con ever. Because you've been better for Star Citizen than most of their development team has been. Your ability to be the evil guy people need to defeat has well overshadowed the fact they don't even have a tech demo, much less a video game anywhere near their promises. Overall you've probably single handedly helped Star Citizen stay relevant and in people's minds more than CIGs marketing ever could.
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McGiggins posted:So what is this Transverse thing i keep hearing about? decided to emulate star citizen and tried to open-ended crowd fund a space game where space flight was a stretch goal, while suffering from a bit of a revolt from the Mechwarrior online community over their cycling of game balance and 'ghost heat' where you could explode from a buildup not show by your instruments.They were roundly derided after their community guy, Niko, attempted to create an astroturfing Reddit and quell all dissent. https://thehyperbolicgamer.com/2014/10/09/something-something-game-news-uber-fail-how-transverse-flopped-and-why-human-resources-will-too/ https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2014/10/51575-piranha-games-kills-transverse-crowdfunding-campaign-begins-backer-refund-process/ Wayback - https://web.archive.org/web/20140915121157/https://transversegame.com/
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Beet Wagon posted:Serious question: Is there any kind of general consensus at PGI about CIG, or do y'all mostly not even give a poo poo? I ask because to a lot of gamers both companies exist in a similar kind of space (CryEngine, some... questionable sales practices, Transverse, etc) and it's not uncommon to hear jokes about "$500 gold mechs" in a Star Citizen thread. Personally I feel like it's not a great comparison, seeing as you guys have a game (almost 2 now!) and have actually bounced back from the bigger mistakes, but I always wonder if maybe some people there look at CIG and go "Well thank gently caress we're not doing that" or if everybody is too preoccupied to remember they exist. I will never speak for the company, nor it's employees in this capacity in any way.
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The Titanic posted:This dude is very much wanting The Sims and adventure and open world exploration experience. With a smattering of management, racing, and trade stuff thrown in there. But mostly it's The Sims in multiplayer. The funny part is, CIG has actually marketed (and monetized pre-launch) said experiences to him already. Literally everything he says is supported by CIG development quotes. Which, -getting back to my original argument- proves the point that the next best thing to the game not happening, is it actually happening. The development debt they have amassed is so gargantuan, that even them making a good (lol, but anyway) game out of this debacle is going to be viewed as a colossal gently caress-up.
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Number19 posted:I will never speak for the company, nor it's employees in this capacity in any way. Good decision! 
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