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It sounds like a term from when a silicon valley start up decided to "solve medicine"
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EmmyOk posted:Is "injuries incompatible with life" a medical term because jesus christ it's what the paramedics say so they don't have to give cpr to a pile of shredded meat
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Mar 24, 2018 22:04
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EmmyOk posted:It sounds like a term from when a silicon valley start up decided to "solve medicine" I think it's pretty old but it has to do with who is and isn't allow to declare someone dead. But it's like "this person's head isn't attached to their body, I feel pretty confident in saying we can go 30 mph to the hospital. it's not a rush." Decapitation is the standard example, but full disembowelment/"full bodily disruption" also count iirc. It means "I don't have authorization to declare this person dead but they're super not alive."
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Mar 24, 2018 22:06
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"Injuries not compatible with life: These include but are not necessarily limited to decapitation or other catastrophic brain trauma, incineration, severed body, and injuries that do not permit effective administration of CPR. If a patient has sustained such injuries, it should be intuitively obvious that the patient is non-viable." Ughughughughugh
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Mar 24, 2018 22:28
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Dare I ask what the difference is between decapitation and "severed body?"
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Mar 24, 2018 22:30
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Ariong posted:Dare I ask what the difference is between decapitation and "severed body?" Well if you're bisected, you're probably done.
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Mar 24, 2018 22:31
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Ariong posted:Dare I ask what the difference is between decapitation and "severed body?" Décapitation is when the head is no longer attached to the body; severed body is when part of the body is no longer attached to part of itself.
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Mar 24, 2018 22:37
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"FBI found piles of dead flies, frozen clumps of severed heads in warehouse" Shady body brokers done did wrong.  It happened in 2013 and the guy is just now going on trial. http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2018/01/fbi_found_piles_of_dead_flies.html
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Mar 24, 2018 22:43
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Pick posted:I think it's pretty old but it has to do with who is and isn't allow to declare someone dead. But it's like "this person's head isn't attached to their body, I feel pretty confident in saying we can go 30 mph to the hospital. it's not a rush." That makes sense for sure and I see now how it arose as a term. I guess there's a bunch of medical terms like that that sound really bizarre when you're used on common/lay speak!
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Mar 24, 2018 22:45
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EmmyOk posted:That makes sense for sure and I see now how it arose as a term. I guess there's a bunch of medical terms like that that sound really bizarre when you're used on common/lay speak! Classically people "know" doctors can declare people dead and nurses can't, but that's actually not totally true, and there are a lot of edge cases, but anyway if you're employed in the field you know whether you're allowed to state someone is dead or not, and alternatively there are these official wiggle phrases.
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Mar 24, 2018 22:49
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:"FBI found piles of dead flies, frozen clumps of severed heads in warehouse" this is the greatest scam
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Mar 24, 2018 22:54
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Pick posted:This was a totally different accident. https://www.elitedaily.com/p/these-3-zodiac-signs-will-have-the-worst-march-mercury-retrograde-but-heres-how-to-deal-8577401 That review.  h
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Mar 24, 2018 23:34
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Sarcopenia posted:https://www.elitedaily.com/p/these-3-zodiac-signs-will-have-the-worst-march-mercury-retrograde-but-heres-how-to-deal-8577401 PYF unnerving article or story: Devastating injuries incompatible with life
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Mar 24, 2018 23:51
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:"Injuries not compatible with life: These include but are not necessarily limited to decapitation or other catastrophic brain trauma, incineration, severed body, and injuries that do not permit effective administration of CPR. If a patient has sustained such injuries, it should be intuitively obvious that the patient is non-viable." After the 2017 Ohio State Fair accident (not going to post a video, but it's easily found and graphic) the obvious fatality had CPR performed on the body by an on-site security or police officer (uncertain of their actual title) and to the best of my knowlege, the first responder had to continue even though to anyone not a moron the injuries were clearly incompatible with life simply because someone had started the procedure and they were not qualified to call. 
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Mar 25, 2018 00:03
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Switzerland posted:PYF unnerving article or story: Devastating injuries incompatible with life
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Mar 25, 2018 00:08
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Sarcopenia posted:https://www.elitedaily.com/p/these-3-zodiac-signs-will-have-the-worst-march-mercury-retrograde-but-heres-how-to-deal-8577401 Is this a... totally different link to other people, or idgi?
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Mar 25, 2018 00:57
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Pick posted:Is this a... totally different link to other people, or idgi? Weird zodiac stuff for me. Maybe there's a zodiac sign that's incompatible with life, especially in the SF Bay area.
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Mar 25, 2018 01:03
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Pick posted:Is this a... totally different link to other people, or idgi? I dunno, as a Gemini the possibility of arguing with my friends is super unnerving.
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Mar 25, 2018 01:05
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Switzerland posted:PYF unnerving article or story: Devastating injuries incompatible with life quote:John raced back when the train finally stopped about a quarter mile down the track. The first girl he saw had no pulse and it was clear a second girl was no longer alive.
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Mar 25, 2018 01:06
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Pick posted:Is this a... totally different link to other people, or idgi? Huh, weird. https://www.elitedaily.com/news/pictures-dreamworld-ride-killed-4/1671150
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Mar 25, 2018 01:06
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EmmyOk posted:Is "injuries incompatible with life" a medical term because jesus christ It is, and it sucks saying it to families.
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Mar 25, 2018 03:40
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a mysterious cloak posted:It is, and it sucks saying it to families. Gotta be better than just saying, "Your kid's head fell off."
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Mar 25, 2018 08:04
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Sarcopenia posted:Huh, weird. It looks like one of those webpages where if you keep scrolling it goes to another article and the url changes, but the page never reloads, so you probably just copied the link from the next article that you were technically looking at.
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Mar 25, 2018 08:10
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Solice Kirsk posted:Gotta be better than just saying, "Your kid's head fell off." "...I'm not sure HOW, exactly, it just... fell off. He was standing in line to get a Slurpee and next thing you know, bam, rolling along the ground. Old woman tripped over it."
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Mar 25, 2018 08:11
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Solice Kirsk posted:Gotta be better than just saying, "Your kid's head fell off." That’s not you get ahead in life, son.
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Mar 25, 2018 08:11
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quote:They purchased disease-infected bodies at a discount and failed to disclose infections to customers, according to federal investigators. Sepsis, HIV and hepatitis were among the infections that U.S. attorneys say Rathburn failed to disclose. You can buy bodies? There are pricing models for bodies? Higher-quality bodies fetch higher prices? I guess I just never thought about this stuff before.
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Mar 25, 2018 09:10
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fruit on the bottom posted:That’s not you get ahead in life, son. Your stupid dead kid couldn't keep focused. We tried crayons, we tried paints, we tried those wire things with the different shaped wood blocks that you slide around on it.....just gotta say your stupid headless kid wouldn't play with any of them. Next time try being a better mother. Idiot.
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Mar 25, 2018 09:38
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BattleMaster posted:You can buy bodies? There are pricing models for bodies? Higher-quality bodies fetch higher prices? Even better - they were a rental service. Bodies by the hour.
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Mar 25, 2018 10:17
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darkwasthenight posted:Even better - they were a rental service. Bodies by the hour. I’m hoping this has a different use case then hotel rooms by the hour.
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Mar 25, 2018 10:52
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:I’m hoping this has a different use case then hotel rooms by the hour. Which, coincidentally, are another easy way to find disease-infected bodies.
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Mar 25, 2018 11:45
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Freudian posted:Which, coincidentally, are another easy way to find disease-infected bodies. 
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Mar 25, 2018 11:54
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Solice Kirsk posted:Gotta be better than just saying, "Your kid's head fell off." "we got no food we got no jobs our kids HEADS are fallin' off!"
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Mar 25, 2018 12:14
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Injuries incompatible with life chat reminds me of my father's story about Vargas and his silk pillowcases. Vargas bought a couple of silk pillowcases to send back home, then the team got called out on a Slam Hatchet (bring everything you've got ASAP, the ground convoy in Black Hawk Down sort of situation). So Vargas stuffed the souvenirs down the front of his shirt, and went out to save some Marines. Vargas got shot. "I'm hit! I'm dying!" Vargas yells. The Master Sergeant replies "You ain't hit, the LT's hit, half his head's gone! Quit whining and get back on the fuckin' gun." Despite being, as far as he knew, mortally wounded, Vargas got back on the Ma Deuce, and they made a tactical retreat. When they got back to base, Vargas took off his jacket and a ball of silk around a 7.62 bullet fell out. Silk is basically nature's Kevlar, Vargas took a 7.62x39 to the chest and walked away with a cracked sternum. The LT with half a head, that's injuries incompatible with life.
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The New York Times magazine has a story about a hiker that went missing in Joshua Tree in 2010, and also weirdos like a lot of us who get borderline obsessed with things like that. Re: "incompatible with life", when I was in medic training our instructor gave us an example from a wilderness SAR mission he'd been on. A guy had gone missing cross-country skiing in Alaska. They found him, eventually, but he was literally frozen solid slumped against a tree. They had to tie down the body in a seated position on the sledge and apparently it was a day or two before the body thawed enough to autopsy. Then there were also the photos of the guy who got sucked through a jet engine (it wasn't something my instructor had responded to; photos are out there if you want), in which case the recommended treatment is a strong stomach and a power washer.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:09
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TorpedoFish posted:The New York Times magazine has a story about a hiker that went missing in Joshua Tree in 2010, and also weirdos like a lot of us who get borderline obsessed with things like that. Yeah or the honestly even more horrifying set of photos, of the guy who was hit by an aircraft on a carrier during takeoff. It impaled his head on... some? part of the aircraft and split it such that the head looks like some weird donut full of teeth.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:12
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There's something weirdly fascinating about these diagrams and breakdowns about catastrophic events that lead to deaths, all presented realtively sanitised, in a way that horrible footage about the same event isn't. Maybe it's because the imagination is doing part of the work and it turns it into a short form horror story, except it actually happened.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:26
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:I’m hoping this has a different use case then hotel rooms by the hour. Betting it's likely to get around laws regarding the sale of body parts, like how when you donate plasma, they're very careful to say that you're paid for your time, not for the plasma.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:41
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Azathoth posted:Betting it's likely to get around laws regarding the sale of body parts, like how when you donate plasma, they're very careful to say that you're paid for your time, not for the plasma. Is this how they get around paying more? Because isn't plasma like ~wildly~ profitable
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Mar 25, 2018 20:12
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:There's something weirdly fascinating about these diagrams and breakdowns about catastrophic events that lead to deaths, all presented realtively sanitised, in a way that horrible footage about the same event isn't. Maybe it's because the imagination is doing part of the work and it turns it into a short form horror story, except it actually happened. This is a classic example of that, real clinical breakdown of exactly how water wants to kill you and everyone who comes after you horribly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEtbFm_CjE0
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A good example of when the sustaining life blah blah part doesn't work would be a drowning victim Life guards will give CPR and defib until the ambulance shows up and then the medics will keep doing that until the doctor finally says ok this body has been dead for the past half hour you can stop It really sucks because it gives the family and friends false hope , in reality you're just practicing compressions on a corpse Even had once where the stomach contents started to come up out of the mouth (scrambled eggs and roasted veggies) and the father got all excited because he thought it meant his son was alive and vomiting
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