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why does everyone in cspam have gigantic "ironic" war boners now? creepily reminiscent of 2002-3
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Apr 10, 2018 13:52
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cargo cult posted:why does everyone in cspam have gigantic "ironic" war boners now? creepily reminiscent of 2002-3 We all dehumanized ourselves and faced to bloodshed
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Apr 10, 2018 13:55
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Like of course this is all horrible and unjust
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Apr 10, 2018 13:56
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israel just killed a bunch of iranians in syria
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Apr 10, 2018 14:06
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cargo cult posted:why does everyone in cspam have gigantic "ironic" war boners now? creepily reminiscent of 2002-3 i don't really have a war boner, but it definitely is feeling more inevitable now than ever
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Apr 10, 2018 14:19
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assad: well this is one of the last holdouts of the rebels and i'm 90% close to win as long as i don't piss off my allies and the rest of the world. hmmm better gas those dudes lol
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Apr 10, 2018 14:24
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https://twitter.com/brolykogan_/status/983008919151923200
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Apr 10, 2018 14:34
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That has to be one of the worst tweets of all time
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Apr 10, 2018 15:16
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rudatron posted:That has to be one of the worst tweets of all time check his tl, it owns
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Apr 10, 2018 15:40
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Russia sent a group of Defense folks to investigate and they "found nothing," and now Assad has invited an independent watchdog to investigate. I don't know if any of this matters, but at least Trump or May haven't bombed anything yet.
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Apr 10, 2018 16:00
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yikes https://twitter.com/MrCraw4D/status/983010118416719873
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Apr 10, 2018 16:24
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Karl Barks posted:check his tl, it owns https://twitter.com/brolykogan_/status/983686128464285696 You can't refute this.
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Apr 10, 2018 16:26
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/brolykogan_/status/983686128464285696 this man owns
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Apr 10, 2018 16:29
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Plutonis posted:assad: well this is one of the last holdouts of the rebels and i'm 90% close to win as long as i don't piss off my allies and the rest of the world. hmmm better gas those dudes lol and purportedly it helped aid their negotiations for that evacuation of fighters
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Apr 10, 2018 16:30
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"90% close to winning" is only true of East Ghouta, but there are still other pockets of rebel held areas around Damascus and in the South, and rebels still control the province of Idlib which now has a significant Turkish presence. The Turks and their allied militias also control the north from Afrin to the outskirts of Manbij. The weight of momentum is on the side of the state, but they're still in a tenuous position and a major intervention could put the wind back into rebel sails and turn the course of the war.
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Apr 10, 2018 16:33
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fair enough, if you'd characterize there being enough rebel presence in the country still for a western meddling to remain tenable then it would be a risky move to make. trump is unpredictable, dumb, has Bolton alongside him, and could be looking for a foreign distraction. so I guess there would still possibly be some risks in using gas to mop up rebel pockets.
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Apr 10, 2018 16:38
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Punkin Spunkin posted:fair enough, if you'd characterize there being enough rebel presence in the country still for a western meddling to remain tenable then it would be a risky move to make. If the state could still lose the war is an open question. If it's just an air war like Libya where we bomb all of their heavy weapons then the war could drag out for years, but the other problem is how do you bomb Syria with any meaningful amount of force without risking war with Russia? Either we commit acts of war against Russian forces, in which case all bets are off, or we'd be hitting isolated targets like Israel does which has practically no meaningful outcome anyway. The third possibility I suppose is that the Syrians sue for peace and Syria effectively becomes three or four different countries. That's also not so good, because when the rebels have carved out their enclaves from Syria then they're gonna start turning on each other to determine who gets to be Emir or Sultan.
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Apr 10, 2018 16:43
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/brolykogan_/status/983686128464285696 drat. an old rear end map. guess that settles things.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:10
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cargo cult posted:why does everyone in cspam have gigantic "ironic" war boners now? creepily reminiscent of 2002-3 the same reason everyone has "ironic" boners for economic collapse everyone knows where this poo poo is going. let's just get there already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6YXm4b3H5c
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Apr 10, 2018 19:28
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cargo cult posted:maybe youre right im just some dumbass and i dont have the heart to follow any of this closely. does that mean it was different rebel groups false flagging themselves every time going back to 2013 despite it never having the intended effect of drawing in UK/US/France/gcc? No, it's Assad has probably used gas in the past, it's also possible that he used gas this time as well, it's also possible it was the rebels, or the CIA, none of these options are non possibilities, Assad just invited an independent watchdog to investigate, believing any narrative absolutely is silly. In my opinion, even if Assad did use gas on the rebels, I don't think that changes anything, the problem with outrage against Assads atrocities is that he's still literally the best of bad options, and leaving Assad and Russia/Iran to finish the war is the best possible scenario. All other options extend the civil war indefinitely and greatly increase the chances of worse forces than Assad, Al Qaeda, Al Nursa, ISIL, GCC backed militants, gaining control of more territory, or in the worst case scenario, the US launching a full invasion ala Iraq, attempting to set up a provisional government after years of protracted war in the region, then it completely falling apart and the region falling into dissarray as soon as we leave, or you know, open war with Russia and nuclear apocalypse.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:46
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i dont disagree. all of those are lovely outcomes and it seems like the best way to draw things down asap is to let assad/russia/iran finish, however long that takes. altho as pener said i dont see how the US can somehow easily or quickly depose assad without shooting at russian forces so i dont think escalated US involvement is inevitable. russians have committed a lot more blood and treasure at this point and i think a fair amt of international prestige to keeping assad alive. (idk if that last bit means as much as the media says it does but w/e) https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/983737010321068032 lols
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Apr 10, 2018 23:16
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Frijolero posted:Russia sent a group of Defense folks to investigate and they "found nothing," and now Assad has invited an independent watchdog to investigate. remember when hans blix did all those investigations in iraq and said that there weren't any wmds because there weren't any wmds and then the us invaded anyway saying "assad did it, but don't invade" is helping further american warmongering by supporting a lie that will be used as a casus belli
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Apr 10, 2018 23:59
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cargo cult posted:i dont disagree. all of those are lovely outcomes and it seems like the best way to draw things down asap is to let assad/russia/iran finish, however long that takes. altho as pener said i dont see how the US can somehow easily or quickly depose assad without shooting at russian forces so i dont think escalated US involvement is inevitable. russians have committed a lot more blood and treasure at this point and i think a fair amt of international prestige to keeping assad alive. (idk if that last bit means as much as the media says it does but w/e) hosed up for glenn to betray assad like that
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Apr 11, 2018 00:01
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Prav posted:saying "assad did it, but don't invade" is helping further american warmongering by supporting a lie that will be used as a casus belli i think america will probably invade whether or not anyone says "assad did it, but don't invade" so it doesn't really matter it doesn't seem inconceivable to me that assad used chemical weapons. i don't know why saying that out loud is some kind of act of propaganda
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Apr 11, 2018 00:07
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It's happening
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Apr 11, 2018 00:08
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https://twitter.com/HansNichols/status/983842126101393408
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Apr 11, 2018 00:09
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cargo cult posted:why does everyone in cspam have gigantic "ironic" war boners now? creepily reminiscent of 2002-3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTLL_6A2fA0
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Apr 11, 2018 00:15
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oh god that really is a perfect visual metaphor actually
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Apr 11, 2018 00:19
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lol
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Apr 11, 2018 00:20
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trump wants his big boy war and he’s going to get it
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Apr 11, 2018 00:34
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what happens if nothing happens
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Apr 11, 2018 00:55
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cargo cult posted:what happens if nothing happens pretty much the best case scenario is everyone fires off enough ordinance to feel better, emotionally, and goes back to not really caring
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Apr 11, 2018 00:57
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cargo cult posted:what happens if nothing happens same as last time, america rests for a month or two and then tries again
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Apr 11, 2018 00:58
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i just dont get why everyones at least performatively convinced that This Is The BIg One. trump tweeting about his bigger and better working button was at least as volatile and nothing came of that either. to say nothing of the fact that nothing happened after we kind of blew up that syrian runway either. whatever i guess
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Apr 11, 2018 01:16
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cargo cult posted:i just dont get why everyones at least performatively convinced that This Is The BIg One. trump tweeting about his bigger and better working button was at least as volatile and nothing came of that either. to say nothing of the fact that nothing happened after we kind of blew up that syrian runway either. whatever i guess bolton
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Apr 11, 2018 01:24
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cargo cult posted:what happens if nothing happens I'm gonna be thrilled if we don't bomb things but at the same time I see absolutely no conflict with pillorying Trump as being the worlds ultimate puss.
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Apr 11, 2018 01:27
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Office Pig posted:bolton may and macron being on board also
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Apr 11, 2018 01:33
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Office Pig posted:bolton its this
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Apr 11, 2018 01:48
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just for a little perspective on how far the FP discourse in the white house has deteriorated:quote:Anton published a widely read essay in conservative circles before the 2016 election under a pseudonym that compared the presidential race to the doomed 11 September, 2001, flight that crashed in Pennsylvania after passengers charged the cockpit. ^^^ this is the guy who quit the day before Bolton came on because he's too tame Mad Dog Mattis is the loving dove in the room, now.
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Apr 11, 2018 01:51
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