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macaco time posted:I think 8 and 9 were better but 10 and 10-2 definitely weren't. 6 is everyone's favorite but I just remember it being really easy. Please, 10, 10-2 were so much better than 7
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bloom posted:I was thinking just now and realized that FF7 is kinda bad. Well not really bad, but when you think about it 6, 8, 9, 10, 10-2 and Tactics are all better. So the most hyped game of the series was actually the worst for quite a while.
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Apr 12, 2018 17:45
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Lol this guy thinks 7 is better than 8. Read the threas before posting you jackass.
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Apr 12, 2018 18:11
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Jimmy Hats posted:Lol this guy thinks 7 is better than 8. Read the threas before posting you jackass. He’s not wrong.
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Apr 12, 2018 18:14
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Jimmy Hats posted:Lol this guy thinks 7 is better than 8. Read the threas before posting you jackass. It is
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Apr 12, 2018 18:16
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8 is better, Barret can't save an entire game
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Apr 12, 2018 18:17
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Please, 10, 10-2 were so much better than 7
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Apr 12, 2018 18:23
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bloom posted:I was thinking just now and realized that FF7 is kinda bad. Well not really bad, but when you think about it 6, 8, 9, 10, 10-2 and Tactics are all better. So the most hyped game of the series was actually the worst for quite a while. Ive always been in the minority here but I never understood the love for 9. I know it was touted as a return to form but I just thought it was boring. And I hate it when a villain goes "If I cant live forever Im going to destroy everything  "
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Apr 12, 2018 18:39
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Please, 10, 10-2 were so much better than 7 10-2 is one of the best playing games in the whole drat series
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Apr 12, 2018 18:40
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I remember 9 getting boring in the second half but I forget why
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Apr 12, 2018 18:41
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I think it stated getting boring I the second half because they stopped going to towns/villages. They did those so well in that game.
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Apr 12, 2018 18:44
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Solice Kirsk posted:I think it stated getting boring I the second half because they stopped going to towns/villages. They did those so well in that game. Yea aside from the summoner village which might be eiko living by herself I think everything but the central continent is uninhabited
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Apr 12, 2018 18:59
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Meme Emulator posted:Yea aside from the summoner village which might be eiko living by herself I think everything but the central continent is uninhabited There are the dwarves, the Black Mage’s, and the weird shrine but yeah, all the big cities are on the main continent.
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Apr 12, 2018 19:03
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9s world is super rich and lovingly realized so the lack of big cities outside the mist continent really bogs it down. plus steiner freya and armants character development just disappears (not that armant even had any. i’m still upset about the first two tho)
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Apr 12, 2018 19:09
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Better Fred Than Dead posted:9s world is super rich and lovingly realized so the lack of big cities outside the mist continent really bogs it down. You even forgot that he's named Amarant
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Apr 12, 2018 19:10
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Meme Emulator posted:Ive always been in the minority here but I never understood the love for 9. I know it was touted as a return to form but I just thought it was boring. And I hate it when a villain goes "If I cant live forever Im going to destroy everything I started playing 9 and it's honestly kind of dull and balanced weirdly. I'm outside lindblum and every random monster is destroying me and I don't have a healer character wtf
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Apr 12, 2018 19:22
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:You even forgot that he's named Amarant i knew it wasn’t right but i didn’t care
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Apr 12, 2018 19:23
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Yeah to be fair 9 does go downhill pretty bad in the second half. The first half is amazing though.
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Apr 12, 2018 19:25
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Toxx it then Alright then, bucko.  The Final Fantasy VII remake will never happen-neither will Half-Life 3
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Apr 12, 2018 19:26
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You're gonna have to be more specific. They are going episodic, so are you saying none will ever be released or it will just never be completed?
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Apr 12, 2018 19:30
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A. Beaverhausen posted:8 is better, Barret can't save an entire game sometimes when you're playing a lousy game you just have to 'grin and Barret'
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Apr 12, 2018 19:31
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fishing with the fam posted:You're gonna have to be more specific. They are going episodic, so are you saying none will ever be released or it will just never be completed? It will be a pay to win pachinko app for Android and Iphone.
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Apr 12, 2018 19:48
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Extra Large Marge posted:It will be a pay to win pachinko app for Android and Iphone.
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Apr 12, 2018 19:50
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bloom posted:I was thinking just now and realized that FF7 is kinda bad. Well not really bad, but when you think about it 6, 8, 9, 10, 10-2 and Tactics are all better. So the most hyped game of the series was actually the worst for quite a while. 7 is very good. 6 is also very good. i might go so far as to say the only truly bad final fantasy is the DS remake of 3. A. Beaverhausen posted:8 is better, Barret can't save an entire game if barret had been a party member in ff8, he would've had ten sentences of dialogue over the course of the entire game. three of them are only viewable if you show him zell's room during the balamb occupation sequence
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Apr 12, 2018 20:31
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Yeah, gently caress Cid. Every FF game should have had a character named Barret that all looked and acted same with the only variation between them being what form his prosthetic hand was.
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Apr 12, 2018 21:05
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The White Dragon posted:7 is very good. 6 is also very good. i might go so far as to say the only truly bad final fantasy is the DS remake of 3. OG II is dog-turds from a butt.
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Apr 12, 2018 21:17
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Arrhythmia posted:OG II is dog-turds from a butt. I'm glad it exists since it's basically the prototype for SaGa but yeah no reason to actually play it.
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Apr 12, 2018 21:27
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LinYutang posted:I started playing 9 and it's honestly kind of dull and balanced weirdly. you gotta grind up early in 9. 9 is great though. worth a play, for sure
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Apr 12, 2018 21:40
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P-Mack posted:I'm glad it exists since it's basically the prototype for SaGa but yeah no reason to actually play it. i appreciate how broke it is. like the ultimate spell that the only good npc dies to give you is shittier than a spell you start with. lol.
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Apr 12, 2018 21:42
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8 was the most fashionable game I think i've ever played. Whole thing felt like a can of fresh linen febreeze.
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Apr 13, 2018 03:42
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macaco time posted:8 was the most fashionable game I think i've ever played. Whole thing felt like a can of fresh linen febreeze. did you just. not play ff15 or something
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Apr 13, 2018 03:48
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The White Dragon posted:7 is very good. 6 is also very good. i might go so far as to say the only truly bad final fantasy is the DS remake of 3. Did they gently caress up the port for DS 3? I tried playing it and it seemed like it was missing additional monsters per encounter or something.
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Apr 13, 2018 03:48
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Zorodius posted:Did they gently caress up the port for DS 3? I tried playing it and it seemed like it was missing additional monsters per encounter or something. It was a tremendous clusterfuck balanced by the guy who designed the original FF11. The DS couldn't support that many models at once, so they reduced the number of enemies per encounter, but balanced this by tripling their stats and giving them a bunch of free actions. The player damage formula remains largely unchanged, so you have these tanky bastards who get to move two or three times whenever you get to attack once, and they also do 2-3x as much damage per hit. To illustrate: In FF3-NES, there's this Medusa boss pretty early into the game, and she has like 600 HP. In FF3-DS, that same boss is in the same place, and you have the same player strength, but she has something like 7500 HP.
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The White Dragon posted:It was a tremendous clusterfuck balanced by the guy who designed the original FF11. The DS couldn't support that many models at once, so they reduced the number of enemies per encounter, but balanced this by tripling their stats and giving them a bunch of free actions. The player damage formula remains largely unchanged, so you have these tanky bastards who get to move two or three times whenever you get to attack once, and they also do 2-3x as much damage per hit. wow, that's interesting. I had no reference point, but it felt hosed up.
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The White Dragon posted:did you just. not play ff15 or something i played the heck out of it but I could only enjoy it with the voices turned off. I think the introduction of VA into FF caused a big decline in storytelling quality (save for 12 which had great VA). Being able to read them like books added a level of respect to your intelligence that post PSX era FFs just did not have imo
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Apr 13, 2018 05:11
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macaco time posted:i played the heck out of it but I could only enjoy it with the voices turned off. voice acting is the bane of RPGs in general. its basically impossible to make an interesting branching dialogue system when you have to pay for every line
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Rutibex posted:voice acting is the bane of RPGs in general. its basically impossible to make an interesting branching dialogue system when you have to pay for every line Witcher 3 seemed to pull it off a bit.
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Apr 13, 2018 05:15
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Honestly ff15 was the first Japanese game I ever played where I thought the English VA was way better than the native VA. I thought the whole thing was fantastic. And this is coming from someone who totally agrees with you re: voice acting 99% of the time. That pantomime with the text boxes is almost like a kind of theater. Just let me read it... unless it's FF15 
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Apr 13, 2018 05:16
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what's in the soup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmnVHIvOQEw
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Solice Kirsk posted:Witcher 3 seemed to pull it off a bit. i never play the Witcher games, but they have a well defined protagonist right? that sort of RPG works fine with voice acting, when the story is well defined. i am thinking more like a Baldurs Gate or Fallout type RPG, where the protagonist is a blank slate that you can roleplay in any way you wish. thats much harder to pull off with voice acting, especially if you want the protagonist to talk.
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