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GalacticAcid posted:not as naive as supporting NATO 
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:im curious why one authoritarian nationalist dictator is more legitimate than another authoritarian nationalist dictator GalacticAcid posted:hmm...what could the difference be between US-backed and non US-backed regimes...what makes one good and one bad? 
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Apr 16, 2018 00:25
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before i tell you how i think this turd tastes i'm gonna need to know about the butt it came out of
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Apr 16, 2018 00:25
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This thread is fukcing stupid as all gently caress
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Apr 16, 2018 00:26
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anyway according to gowans dot Wordpress dot com,
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Apr 16, 2018 00:26
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i can't stop laughing atm
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Apr 16, 2018 00:27
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ah yes assad the socialist
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Apr 16, 2018 00:28
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It's weird that the US supports the SDF who are by all accounts the good guys
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Apr 16, 2018 00:28
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I mean usually the rebels we arm have something seriously and obviously wrong with their ideology but in this case they're cool all around
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Apr 16, 2018 00:29
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It's weird that the US supports the SDF who are by all accounts the good guys the US has spent the last 50 years arming random militias to achieve temporary goals that almost immediately turn around and bite us in the rear end, about time we do that to actual good commies
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Apr 16, 2018 00:30
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:ah yes assad the socialist all states are illegitimate, op
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Apr 16, 2018 00:32
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i warned you about those states
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Apr 16, 2018 00:33
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It's weird that the US supports the SDF who are by all accounts the good guys not really supporting them fulfills like 8 goals at once it is actually pretty smart
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Apr 16, 2018 00:37
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Frijolero posted:This thread is fukcing stupid as all gently caress No poo poo. I wish Trump would bomb Damascus again so this thread could have something to talk about.
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Apr 16, 2018 01:13
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https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/985666260896702464 rip ypg
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Apr 16, 2018 01:50
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Thug Lessons posted:Yeah dude, you got me. Classic NATO supporter. you know you're on the right track when the sexually frustrated and bloodless Brookings weekend warriors call you nazi genocidal fascist assadian filth, and the 3rd Twitter Regiment that the PKK never asked for and would gladly flog with socks full of dubloons IRL call you an imperialist NATO lapdog
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Apr 16, 2018 02:07
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It's called the Arab Syrian Ba'athist SOCIALIST party...
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Apr 16, 2018 02:11
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Frijolero posted:This thread is fukcing stupid as all gently caress all threads about the SCW are loving stupid as gently caress. everyone gets real steamed at the folk they pretend the other guys to be and it attracts performative histrionic toughguys like flies to poo poo worse even than gun control threads.
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Apr 16, 2018 02:19
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Give it another day and he'll be saying there's no end in sight for Syria.
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Apr 16, 2018 02:22
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getting tired just looking at all the things "as soon as possible" does in that sentence
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Apr 16, 2018 02:26
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DJT is getting dragged to gently caress and back by his base for an airstrike that ultimately did not much, and that statement by Sanders is a figleaf to keep the base from writing him off as compromised by the Deep State any more than they already have. unfortunately even trump voters aren't as loving stupid as democrats, so it isn't working because trump is now a Villain
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It's easy to underestimate just how many pigs there are out there who love any kind of military action. I wouldn't assume that all the online chuds who are calling Trump Al Qaeda's butt boy represent a meaningful bloc.
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Apr 16, 2018 02:36
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Give it another day and he'll be saying there's no end in sight for Syria. Also we've been getting out of Afghanistan "as soon as possible" since 2004.
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Apr 16, 2018 02:42
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It's weird that the US supports the SDF who are by all accounts the good guys Hell yeah
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Apr 16, 2018 02:43
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tequila https://twitter.com/luke_j_obrien/status/985277658706608133 lime https://twitter.com/luke_j_obrien/status/985310818265976838 salt https://twitter.com/haveigotnews/status/984048251421843456
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:having 2000 troops sitting twiddling their thumbs in kurdish territory and cruise bombing 4 empty buildings a week after trump tried to withdraw everyone out of syria is some weak regime change, but maybe bush spoiled me the problem is that the US doesn't really want to take any meaningful action in Syria, but the foreign policy establishment can't tolerate doing nothing because it believes that it's essential for the US to involve itself, if only to show that it can still exercise power so we just aimlessly march troops around while arming random factions, bombing random troop formations, and hoping that an acceptable solution that can be called a victory will just materialize out of nowhere if US officials hurl enough threats. except everyone in the theatre has figured out it's a bluff by now, especially now that Russia is far more involved than we are
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Apr 16, 2018 03:28
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Waffle House posted:tequila any airliner thats dumb enough to fly their jets over syria probably deserves it
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Apr 16, 2018 03:44
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hello everyone bad actor
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Apr 16, 2018 05:57
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Main Paineframe posted:the problem is that the US doesn't really want to take any meaningful action in Syria, but the foreign policy establishment can't tolerate doing nothing because it believes that it's essential for the US to involve itself, if only to show that it can still exercise power
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Apr 16, 2018 06:10
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:the tankies who actually think assad is Good are insane and stupid freaks. almost as insane and stupid as the people who support american intervention so you're giving people poo poo for supporting a victory by assad and the syrian government, fair enough. what exactly is a preferable outcome in syria to you- a rebel victory? at this point in time realistically who do you really consider to be the best possible future for syria? i'm genuinely curious.
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Apr 16, 2018 06:59
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i think what grinds my gears is the rush people have to fight a virtual war for a real-life conflict for which they're not taking part. i'm make posts about it but i'm sitting that part out.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i think what grinds my gears is the rush people have to fight a virtual war for a real-life conflict for which they're not taking part. I'm just here to participate in a shitshow
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Apr 16, 2018 07:07
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and i think largely what's behind it are a lot of men living vicariously through the war, consuming lots of war footage and pouring their emotions into it. but they're making a choice to do that unlike most of the people who are actually, directly affected by the war.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i think what grinds my gears is the rush people have to fight a virtual war for a real-life conflict for which they're not taking part. dude the virtual war is real life 
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i'm not saying you 'can't take sides' or only the real veterans (like that guy ^ because veteran worship is bullshit) can comment on it. i'd just question your own motivations if you're going to pick Team Assad or Team Bomb Assad or whatever the other group is. edit: i'm in a bad mood tonight. it must've been the seinfeld / leno debate in the trump thread
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:and i think largely what's behind it are a lot of men living vicariously through the war, consuming lots of war footage and pouring their emotions into it. but they're making a choice to do that unlike most of the people who are actually, directly affected by the war. totally. i've been following the war pretty closely for a while now and sometimes i have to take a step back and be like ok why am i doing this? i think "picking a side" is pretty natural with something like this tho, it's when you become a dedicated keyboard warrior for your chosen side that i think you need to take a step back and maybe find something else to read about on the internet for a while.
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the great deceiver posted:so you're giving people poo poo for supporting a victory by assad and the syrian government, fair enough. what exactly is a preferable outcome in syria to you- a rebel victory? at this point in time realistically who do you really consider to be the best possible future for syria? i'm genuinely curious. it is entirely possible to recognize that Assad is a brutal dictator that started this conflict with an insane and stupid murderous overreaction to what were initially peaceful protests by people asking for reform and change, and that his government is the lesser evil compared to the rebels, which long ago lost whatever moderate elements might have been in them, and obviously ISIS, which is basically dead. Also the Assad government very likely did those chemical attacks, but the obsession with killing 40 people with chemical weapons vs hundreds of thousands killed conventionally is stupid, and just an excuse for the dying capitalist empires to pretend they have any sort of remaining authority over the rest of the world by spending vast amounts of money to blow up empty buildings. Probably the best possible outcome is the Syrian government finishing off the rebels, and some sort of agreement between the SDF and government to allow them full autonomy in their controlled territory. Considering there is no way Turkey will accept that, and I do not think the Assad reactionary government will ever really accept a bunch of leftists doign leftists things in a third of their country, we will see what happens. Basically every side in this entire conflict aside for the YPG are various shades of reactionary assholes, and you dont have to be an idiot tankie and cheerlead for the Lion Assad because hes temporarily on opposing geopolitical sides with the rapidly collapsing American capitalist empire.
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thanks for the honest answer- you and i are pretty much exactly on the same page. i dont particularly care for Assad or Baathism on the whole but i see them to be the lesser of the evils in syria right now and i agree that unironic, uncritical admiration of Assad - a pretty standard middle east despot- is weird and not a great look. my support is honestly more with the Syrian Arab Army more so than Assad but i realize theres not much distance between them.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Give it another day and he'll be saying there's no end in sight for Syria. I know we're more than a year in already, but i still can't loving deal with this poo poo
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the great deceiver posted:totally. i've been following the war pretty closely for a while now and sometimes i have to take a step back and be like ok why am i doing this? i think "picking a side" is pretty natural with something like this tho, it's when you become a dedicated keyboard warrior for your chosen side that i think you need to take a step back and maybe find something else to read about on the internet for a while. I am an international socialist and I care about the fate of my comrades.
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