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Ytlaya posted:Well, that's the thing; a lot of liberals will openly acknowledge that society isn't a meritocracy, but then also claim that some people deserve to be wealthy. At least the conservatives/libertarians who think it's already a meritocracy are logically coherent, but liberals try to simultaneously acknowledge the unfairness inherent to society while also believing some people are deserving of their financial success. they fundamentally believe that a meritocracy is not only attainable, but both good and desirable. they idealize the idea of a meritocratic market economy where people who work hard and contribute well are better off. they're fine with a fair amount of inequality, as long as the inequality is for a "good reason" they may quibble about the details and the execution, but they basically believe that our current system is essentially good and merely needs to be improved rather than changed. same with capitalism. that's why they're focusing their rhetoric on breaking up monopolies and combating corruption: they believe that market capitalism is the best system, and merely needs to be tweaked to take out the factors that are skewing it and causing it to work improperly
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Apr 14, 2018 22:54
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Tunicate posted:hot take: everyone deserves to be rich if everyone is rich, then no one is 
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Apr 14, 2018 23:15
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Tunicate posted:hot take: everyone deserves to be rich https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzRmAEE7Kfk
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Apr 14, 2018 23:27
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Teal posted:I dunno if I'm being wishful and delusional but post-trump there seems to be a slowly growing genuine surge in far left thought. While this guy is undeniably pathetic I think there's also an uptick of "hold on guys realize we DESERVE to be rich, get it? Right?" as the general consciousness slowly realizes that a left wing uprising isn't as completely unthinkable as it was ten years ago. speaking of a rejuvenized left The Nastier Nate posted:This is fair for really cool rich people like Dolly Parton and uhhh...Bernie Sanders who owns 3 HOUSES! Ytlaya posted:
in all fairness the 'meritocratic' way of thinking I described had some nuance similar to the summary above. But I don't think we really dug into it deeply, most of it was easy reassurance that it's ok, that you earned getting an academic degree on a government stipend/zero interest loan/mum and dads money, not having to work very hard, suffer prejudice, that you're living with a few friends for next to no rent in a sweet apartment that used to be someone's grandparents' pied a terre, etc. How much ancestry and luck instead of hard work had influenced this dawned on me way later than I care to admit. Outside of that, I thought the idea of a meritocracy had kind of gone out of fashion a while back actually H.P. Hovercraft posted:🎶🎵i want to kill every rich person i see which b-side of the sex pistols is this from? It's good, if you made it up yourself it's too good not to write a two-chord punk anthem off of Old Binsby has issued a correction as of 00:09 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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Apr 15, 2018 00:06
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^^ to the tune of Rock Me Dr. Zaius
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Apr 15, 2018 00:11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy6CFTMnYa4
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Apr 15, 2018 00:20
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Tunicate posted:hot take: everyone deserves to be rich Whoa, wait a second! Have you even thought about how that white coat investor guy would feel is this were the case? It would be like other people had just as much merit as him, and that would be an unthinkable injustice.
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Apr 15, 2018 06:54
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i love you dr zaius
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Apr 15, 2018 07:04
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Mage: the Awakening posted:Change Your Perspective
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Apr 15, 2018 07:49
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I cast magic missile
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Apr 15, 2018 17:18
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Apr 15, 2018 19:10
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:🎶🎵i want to kill every rich person i see Grognan posted:ok, this got a laugh from me
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Apr 15, 2018 19:21
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Old Binsby posted:which b-side of the sex pistols is this from? It's good, if you made it up yourself it's too good not to write a two-chord punk anthem off of Here you go.
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Apr 15, 2018 23:02
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https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/985646450074968069?s=20 I’m the soundtrack
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Apr 16, 2018 00:24
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/985646450074968069?s=20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NVOawOXxSA
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Apr 16, 2018 00:38
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Old Binsby posted:he wouldn’t need to be saying that if everyone else could muster the decency to occasionally thank him for his sacrifice seriously tho, he's a smug oval office about it, but does he have the right? I haven't called him out on it yet
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Apr 16, 2018 00:48
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Krankenstyle posted:if everyone is rich, then no one is It's true, the mindset in this country is as long as you're making more than someone else you've at least got someone to piss on. Welders piss on line workers, line workers piss on retail workers, etc.
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Apr 16, 2018 01:56
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thats how every caste system works, it is a problem that economics alone cannot fix
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Apr 16, 2018 01:59
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Vox Nihili posted:It's true, the mindset in this country is as long as you're making more than someone else you've at least got someone to piss on. Welders piss on line workers, line workers piss on retail workers, etc. Well, more than that, the entire system wouldn't work if everyone was rich; it requires inequality, and preferably gross inequality, if only because vast amounts of wealth is merely a stand in for social and political power which would be pretty unimpressive if everyone else also had the same access.
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Apr 16, 2018 03:21
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a lot of people are way more easily pacified if they believe they have it better than someone else bonus points if the someone else isn't white
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Apr 16, 2018 03:30
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/985646450074968069?s=20 I guess I'm just dumb but are the numbers here equal to the 10%? IE the $145,000 for San Diego is the 10% downpayment on a presumably 1.45 million dollar house? Because even though it's expensive as gently caress to live in say, Los Angeles, the average house price can't possibly >$1m
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du -hast posted:I guess I'm just dumb but are the numbers here equal to the 10%? IE the $145,000 for San Diego is the 10% downpayment on a presumably 1.45 million dollar house? Because even though it's expensive as gently caress to live in say, Los Angeles, the average house price can't possibly >$1m 
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How the Wealthy Talk to Their Children About Money https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/your-money/talking-to-children-about-inheritance.html  quote:Mr. and Mrs. Weiner are doing something that many affluent people find very difficult to undertake: talking to their heirs about the millions they will have to manage after their parents are gone. quote:All participants had a net worth of more than $20 million, and only a tenth of them said they had given complete information about inheritance to their heirs — apparently for fear of dampening their work ethic. quote:But he did remember learning about the extent of his family’s wealth in elementary school in San Francisco. “All school kids in San Francisco then were very into the Guinness Book of World Records, and I remember at one point someone pointed out the fact that the du Pont family was the richest family in the world,” he said. “I remember laughing at that, thinking we’re just normal people.” quote:Mr. Goss said that his parents, while not forthcoming about exact dollar amounts, told him he would have enough family financial support to pursue whatever career he wanted. And he did, working for 20 years as a curator at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. quote:She said Mr. Rockefeller told her, “My parents taught me the value of a dollar, whether I was spending it, earning it or giving it away.”
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I love this song a lot.
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Apr 16, 2018 16:36
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Imagine thinking 20 years Is a career and not the start of 60+ years it working until you die.
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Apr 16, 2018 16:38
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Hey he earned that sinecure.
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Apr 16, 2018 17:52
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du -hast posted:I guess I'm just dumb but are the numbers here equal to the 10%? IE the $145,000 for San Diego is the 10% downpayment on a presumably 1.45 million dollar house? Because even though it's expensive as gently caress to live in say, Los Angeles, the average house price can't possibly >$1m to be clear https://twitter.com/ByRosenberg/status/985936398573232128
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Apr 16, 2018 20:10
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No way, foreign investment is totally great and helps the economy, idk what you're talking about *buys dilapidated shitshack in Hongcouver for $1.4mil to shelter capital
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Apr 16, 2018 21:05
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Wheeee posted:No way, foreign investment is totally great and helps the economy, idk what you're talking about Vacancy Taxes.
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Apr 16, 2018 21:11
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lol taxes hows aboot gently caress off and and take your money with you
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Apr 16, 2018 21:15
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the real solution is in the thread title thatss right, lots and lots of text
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Apr 16, 2018 21:33
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from awhile ago but still a banger
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Apr 17, 2018 20:20
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:from awhile ago but still a banger American Psycho was a generous and forgiving biography of this mans 30's
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Apr 17, 2018 20:24
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:from awhile ago but still a banger 
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Apr 17, 2018 20:33
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:from awhile ago but still a banger Could have just stopped right here tbh
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Apr 17, 2018 20:33
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The Nastier Nate posted:Could have just stopped right here tbh lol i've posted this precise screenshot before, i forget where
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Apr 17, 2018 20:40
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The Nastier Nate posted:Could have just stopped right here tbh incredible, a spot at the very front of the guillotine queue just opened up for this guy
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