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Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Jyrraeth posted:

If you weren't on your cell phone you would've heard me say "I need to put this pan down it's hot, I'll be one second" and you wouldn't have had to """panic""" about me ignoring you. Let me just project my voice for the rest of the transaction because I maybe I was too quiet.

This just brought back bad memories of working at Subway and having customers who were on their phone throughout the entire ordering process - which is kind of annoying when you need to ask them what they want each step of the way (along with the typical cookie/combo upsell and other nonsense.) Some were pretty polite about it, and would just tell me the whole order up front, or actually pause their conversation in anticipation of questions, or were just taking someone's order off the phone.

But gently caress the assholes who just made you feel like you were greatly inconveniencing them by taking their order. I don't know which was worse - the gesturing/grunting kind, or the ones that would I'd have to wait for them to find a pause to respond.

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Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
They're being dicks to everyone in line behind them, too. It's one of several reasons I don't eat at Subway anymore--you get some of those people at every fast food joint, and Starbucks too, but for some reason Subway is those people's absolute favorite place to eat.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Eric the Mauve posted:

They're being dicks to everyone in line behind them, too. It's one of several reasons I don't eat at Subway anymore--you get some of those people at every fast food joint, and Starbucks too, but for some reason Subway is those people's absolute favorite place to eat.
They like the idea of having control, and subway lets you control exactly how much of everything you get. Unfortunately, a lot of those type of people have no idea what to do with that control once they have it, panic, and that panic turns into anger directed at the only person who isn't allowed to tell them to get hosed.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




For my part, subway at least has what looks like fresh veggies, which puts it a bit above most of the other fast food places. I'm usually staring at my phone for my wife's order, though, not listening to it.

That's better, right?

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

now entering North Dakota posted:

Can confirm. I have no idea why the police have a non-emergency number. Every time I've had to call it was "Call 911, tell them it's a non emergency" Then 911 just redirects you to the local number you called the first time.

It is used to cut down unnecessary calls to the emergency dispatch center.

Its also loving infuriating that while the emergency number here is 112, the "non-emergency" number is something like 05-443233029533266, varying between the regions and closed outside the business hours of 0800-1700.

The loving number services have static numbers like 020202 or 0100100, why the gently caress can't the non-emergency number be something like "000" to report a crime or ask for an advice? The "000" is already reserved number anyway, because it used to be our emergency number.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

Der Kyhe posted:

It is used to cut down unnecessary calls to the emergency dispatch center.

Its also loving infuriating that while the emergency number here is 112, the "non-emergency" number is something like 05-443233029533266, varying between the regions and closed outside the business hours of 0800-1700.

The loving number services have static numbers like 020202 or 0100100, why the gently caress can't the non-emergency number be something like "000" to report a crime or ask for an advice? The "000" is already reserved number anyway, because it used to be our emergency number.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8GtuPdrUQ

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


silvergoose posted:

For my part, subway at least has what looks like fresh veggies, which puts it a bit above most of the other fast food places. I'm usually staring at my phone for my wife's order, though, not listening to it.

That's better, right?

Of course.

It's more that it's just rude to be talking on the phone when someone's taking your order/serving you/etc. - that's a truth anywhere - but it's particularly annoying for an interaction that can't really be carried out non-verbally.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008


This actually was in my mind when I wrote that piece about the obtuse non-emergency service numbers. :)

EDIT: Just this weekend, my tooth chipped in half while I was returning from my work trip across the country. I drove 2 hours to my home, googled for the regional dental services, called their number, and drove back 6 km to the building I just passed, because I had no loving idea on the number I should call.

Here is the kicker: the emergency dental work in weekend cost me around 25 USD. That didn't take hold, so I got new time on Monday and they more or less constructed a new tooth on the fly. It cost about 150 USD. I do not have any dental plan, but live in one of those "socialist paradises" in the Northern Europe.


Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Apr 18, 2018

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004


Lol.i halbve already saod i inferno circstances wanttpgback

Yawgmoth posted:

They like the idea of having control, and subway lets you control exactly how much of everything you get. Unfortunately, a lot of those type of people have no idea what to do with that control once they have it, panic, and that panic turns into anger directed at the only person who isn't allowed to tell them to get hosed.

What I hate about these people is that they ruin it for everyone else.

If I go into a sandwich shop ( a chain one anyways ), half the time I can't just order a meatball hero, or whatever. I can't just say, "Gimme the default." No. I have to answer twenty-questions about my sandwich as we both go on a journey down the line.

It's the same way at the deli. They ask how I want my meat or cheese, and every time I say, "Like normal, I'm not picky," they eye me like the second they start cutting that poo poo, my face is going to come apart like Total Recall and reveal the screeching middle-aged white woman inside.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

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"Do you want to taste this?" Uh no, it's still gonna be pastrami right?

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

I'M FEELING JIMMY

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

What I hate about these people is that they ruin it for everyone else.

If I go into a sandwich shop ( a chain one anyways ), half the time I can't just order a meatball hero, or whatever. I can't just say, "Gimme the default." No. I have to answer twenty-questions about my sandwich as we both go on a journey down the line.

It's the same way at the deli. They ask how I want my meat or cheese, and every time I say, "Like normal, I'm not picky," they eye me like the second they start cutting that poo poo, my face is going to come apart like Total Recall and reveal the screeching middle-aged white woman inside.

Volmarias posted:

"Do you want to taste this?" Uh no, it's still gonna be pastrami right?

I don't know what it's like for other sections of the stores, but from my experience working in delis, the assumption is that customers will hate what you cut regardless, and giving them a piece beforehand gives you plausible deniability if they complain. People are almost stupidly picky when it comes to lunchmeat, and I found it got worse in a supermarket deli.

"I want this cheese as thin as you can get it."
*Hands them what's basically the vague suggestion of a slice of cheese*
"This is literally the lowest setting on the slicer. Is that okay?"
"Could you maybe make it thinner? I'm very picky. Sorry!"

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
People are not actually that picky about their lunchmeat, most of them. They just feel a consuming need to boss someone around who can't tell them to go to hell.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

SpacePig posted:

I don't know what it's like for other sections of the stores, but from my experience working in delis, the assumption is that customers will hate what you cut regardless, and giving them a piece beforehand gives you plausible deniability if they complain. People are almost stupidly picky when it comes to lunchmeat, and I found it got worse in a supermarket deli.

"I want this cheese as thin as you can get it."
*Hands them what's basically the vague suggestion of a slice of cheese*
"This is literally the lowest setting on the slicer. Is that okay?"
"Could you maybe make it thinner? I'm very picky. Sorry!"

The thinner the cheese is, they can stretch out how many sandwiches they can put cheese on without spending more!

Jyrraeth
Aug 1, 2008

I love this dino
SOOOO MUCH

I'm so, so happy that my (grocery store) deli doesn't slice cheese on demand. I had to do some just to use up something we got 4x of what we ordered and just how long it took to clean the stupid slicer compared to meat was crazy.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Volmarias posted:

"Do you want to taste this?" Uh no, it's still gonna be pastrami right?
I would say yes just for the opportunity to have more pastrami. It is truly the greatest of the cured meats.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Yawgmoth posted:

I would say yes just for the opportunity to have more pastrami. It is truly the greatest of the cured meats.

A fair point

Pentaghastly
Mar 26, 2016
The other closer went on vacation so I'm gonna be working full shifts for the next five days in a row, which is fine, but I got a text at 11am asking if I wanted to come in early ("no pressure!! :)) which is an indication that our manager didnt get a supervisor to cover the mid-shift who is also on vacation and now theyre in hell and theyre gonna be in hell for the next five days because of it

he said no pressure though so I'm just gonna ignore it

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
That is the most insincere smiley in the history of the world, but you did the right thing ignoring him anyway.

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004


Lol.i halbve already saod i inferno circstances wanttpgback
Inching closer to my seven day vacation. I'm so short I can taste it. Two weeks and a wake-up. Can't wait to see what happens while I'm away.

Last time I came back from a vacation my manager told me, "I'm sorry," then showed me that they'd fallen so far behind on my frozen food that they ran the gently caress out of room and had three carts full of poo poo sitting in the middle of the cooler.

That is very against corporate policy, of course, but such policies exist only for managers to enforce, not obey.

Budgie
Mar 9, 2007
Yeah, like the bird.

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

Inching closer to my seven day vacation. I'm so short I can taste it. Two weeks and a wake-up. Can't wait to see what happens while I'm away.

Last time I came back from a vacation my manager told me, "I'm sorry," then showed me that they'd fallen so far behind on my frozen food that they ran the gently caress out of room and had three carts full of poo poo sitting in the middle of the cooler.

That is very against corporate policy, of course, but such policies exist only for managers to enforce, not obey.

Sounds like your managers are even more allergic to the shop floor than mine.

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004


Lol.i halbve already saod i inferno circstances wanttpgback

Budgie posted:

Sounds like your managers are even more allergic to the shop floor than mine.

Nah. Most of my managers bust rear end most of the time. It is just that, along with all the other poo poo they're expected to do, they also run grocery backstock. And dairy backstock. So when I leave, the only people they can enlist to work my department are:

1) Themselves
2) People who extremely do not want to work frozen food and will gently caress around the entire time.

In other news, I have actually figured out how to get all of my stuff done on time. The past couple of times I got out late, it was due to doing poo poo that wasn't my job, or doing poo poo that someone else was supposed to do. Usually the short date list.

HazCat
May 4, 2009

I'm planning on transferring out of my store. It was shaping up to be a really hard decision, mostly because it would mean dropping from the 36 hours I'm currently getting down to only 30.

... Except I just got told today that in a fortnight I'm getting cut back to 30 hours at my current store.

Thanks for making my decision to bail easier, I guess :confuoot:

Also lol they just made us cut 11k out of our wage budget, and the May cut is another 20k. All the casuals are going to get zero hours and quit (meaning any training put into them was a total waste), and all the part timers are getting dropped to minimum hours, which effectively means the good workers are going to continue carrying the entire store by working harder for less pay, before burning out and tanking team morale while being irreplaceable because we have no one to train replacements :capitalism:

On a totally unrelated note, one of the less known benefits of transferring stores versus quitting is that you don't have to give any notice at all.

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠
My Boss just told me He wants to promote me to assistant manager, but can't because I don't have a car. Thing is, I don't make enough to afford a new car, and assuming I get the money to fix my current one (needs a new engine), I can't really afford the insurance and other crap I'd need to drive it anyway. Apparently I shouldn't even have the position I have now without a car.

So, I'm kind of checked out.

Pentaghastly
Mar 26, 2016
Co-worker: "Hey what's this blue tube for?"

Me: "Thats...dish detergent...? When did you start here, just curious"

CW: "November!"

Me: "How have you been washing dishes?"

CW: "I've just been rinsing them with sanitizer"

Me: "Is this your first food service job?"

CW: "No this is my first job ever! :)"

She was washing a bean hopper, which needs to soak in detergent for a few minutes and wiped out because its coated in coffee bean oilyness. She's just been rinsing it :cripes:

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004


Lol.i halbve already saod i inferno circstances wanttpgback
Sounds like a training thing. At least she's trying- that means it isn't a matter of laziness.

Pentaghastly
Mar 26, 2016
That is true. At least shes rinsing things before she puts them in the dishwasher, which I can't say the same for others.

She felt stupid for not knowing about the dish detergent and I told her that I still don't know some things that you think would be obvious. I've never refilled a single soap dispenser in the store and if someone asked me to I'd probably stare at it for a few minutes before asking someone how to do it

Inspector 34
Mar 9, 2009

DOES NOT RESPECT THE RUN

BUT THEY WILL

Anora posted:

My Boss just told me He wants to promote me to assistant manager, but can't because I don't have a car. Thing is, I don't make enough to afford a new car, and assuming I get the money to fix my current one (needs a new engine), I can't really afford the insurance and other crap I'd need to drive it anyway. Apparently I shouldn't even have the position I have now without a car.

So, I'm kind of checked out.

Where do you live that allows employers to specifically descriminate against people who use public transportation or bike or walk to work? I mean unless you're delivering pizzas or something that requires your own vehicle why do they even give a poo poo how you get to and from work?

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Inspector 34 posted:

Where do you live that allows employers to specifically descriminate against people who use public transportation or bike or walk to work? I mean unless you're delivering pizzas or something that requires your own vehicle why do they even give a poo poo how you get to and from work?

It's not unreasonable to require a reliable form of transportation if it's expected that the employee may need to be effectively on call and appear on short notice. If the employee has a relative who can drive them instead or whatever it still works.

"Car owner" is not a protected class.

Inspector 34
Mar 9, 2009

DOES NOT RESPECT THE RUN

BUT THEY WILL
Yeah I didn't consider on-call or maybe night shifts where public transportation may not even be available in some places. I guess there are some valid reasons to require a car, but Anora didn't mention anything like that so I didn't think too much about it.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Volmarias posted:

It's not unreasonable to require a reliable form of transportation if it's expected that the employee may need to be effectively on call and appear on short notice. If the employee has a relative who can drive them instead or whatever it still works.

"Car owner" is not a protected class.

Especially for a store manager. What if the one of the other managers gets in an accident on the way to open and can't open? You'll have to be ready at a moment's notice to get there.

I remember having to get up at 3am and drive to our store because the alarm was going off and I had to be there for the cops.

It totally sucks but I can see why they'd want a keyholder to have a car.

Pentaghastly
Mar 26, 2016
A lady decided to flip me off as she drove away and then come inside to complain about me being rude because I said "what?" with an attitude, apparently.

I hope she feels good about flipping off an overworked underpaid service worker just because I didnt kiss her rear end hard enough.

I need some wine.

Pentaghastly fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Apr 21, 2018

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠

Beastie posted:

Especially for a store manager. What if the one of the other managers gets in an accident on the way to open and can't open? You'll have to be ready at a moment's notice to get there.

I remember having to get up at 3am and drive to our store because the alarm was going off and I had to be there for the cops.

It totally sucks but I can see why they'd want a keyholder to have a car.

I'm 15 minutes away by foot, the boss is 40 by car.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Anora posted:

I'm 15 minutes away by foot, the boss is 40 by car.

That is some serious horseshit.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Anora posted:

I'm 15 minutes away by foot, the boss is 40 by car.

That's bullshit

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Yeah, it begins to grow clear that “I can’t promote you because you don’t have a car” is bullshit and 100% if you get a car he’ll have a different bullshit excuse for not wanting to promote you. Look for a supervisory role with another company if possible.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Anora posted:

I'm 15 minutes away by foot, the boss is 40 by car.

Oh that’s insane. Sorry.

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004


Lol.i halbve already saod i inferno circstances wanttpgback
I leave, ideally, at ten. It often doesn't work out that way if I've got other things to do, but I'm supposedly set to leave at ten. That is. The plan. That is, what is written.

The store closes at eleven. Sometimes eleven fifteen, depending on how busy we are

We're within walking distance of not one, not two, but three apartment complexes of varying sizes.

People have a whole hour to come into the store after I'm gone. A whole hour. You know what people buy when they go to the grocery store between ten and eleven?

They buy snacks. They sometimes buy diapers. They often buy loving beer, probably because their job drives them to drink. Or their children. Or their children's lack of a job.

So every time I hear by proxy, and it's always by proxy, that the store manager came in and went, :thunk: "Was beer conditioned last night?" I want to headbutt the loving liquor cabinet. It pisses me off every time.

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

I leave, ideally, at ten. It often doesn't work out that way if I've got other things to do, but I'm supposedly set to leave at ten. That is. The plan. That is, what is written.

The store closes at eleven. Sometimes eleven fifteen, depending on how busy we are

We're within walking distance of not one, not two, but three apartment complexes of varying sizes.

People have a whole hour to come into the store after I'm gone. A whole hour. You know what people buy when they go to the grocery store between ten and eleven?

They buy snacks. They sometimes buy diapers. They often buy loving beer, probably because their job drives them to drink. Or their children. Or their children's lack of a job.

So every time I hear by proxy, and it's always by proxy, that the store manager came in and went, :thunk: "Was beer conditioned last night?" I want to headbutt the loving liquor cabinet. It pisses me off every time.

What I like to do is come in as close to closing as possible and take several different varieties of beer off the shelf and evaluate which one I want to drink before sometimes placing them back on the wrong spot on the shelf and sometimes just leaving them on the floor.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

What I like to do is come in as close to closing as possible and take several different varieties of beer off the shelf and evaluate which one I want to drink before sometimes placing them back on the wrong spot on the shelf and sometimes just leaving them on the floor.

Same, but I make sure that I don't leave the aisles until 15 minutes after close, and I end up buying a bottle of wine instead of beer in the end anyway.

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NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004


Lol.i halbve already saod i inferno circstances wanttpgback
I don't really care what people do. I just care about my boss's dumbshit unrealistic expectations about conditioning. Her expectations and nitpicking is such that her managers would rather tackle a two ( or three ) man job by themselves than have her help them.

The assistant store manager, someone that's known this store manager for ten years, deliberately destroys all the boxes after she builds the end cap displays so the store manager can't come in and go,

:thunk: "I think it would better this way, take it all down and do it again."

The fact that she did it enough times that the ASM and grocery manager scorch the earth behind them, vowing "not one schlep back" should tell you a lot about her.

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