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Busket Posket posted:There’s a documentary on one specific defector, James Dresnok, whose entire rationale boils down to “I get to be the bully now DAD, plus Korean women are better than American women because they don’t make fun of me, and here I’m not fat, I’m a godlike giant. Plus they put me in propaganda films as The Evil American so I’m pretty well-known.” He was given a stipend for his propaganda service that made him essentially a wealthy man in DPRK after being a shiftless doofus in his American life. typical expat.
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Pick posted:typical expat. Minus cultivating an online persona as an extremely racist piece of poo poo, which is essentially mandatory these days.
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Busket Posket posted:There’s a documentary on one specific defector, James Dresnok, whose entire rationale boils down to “I get to be the bully now DAD, plus Korean women are better than American women because they don’t make fun of me, and here I’m not fat, I’m a godlike giant. Plus they put me in propaganda films as The Evil American so I’m pretty well-known.” He was given a stipend for his propaganda service that made him essentially a wealthy man in DPRK after being a shiftless doofus in his American life. How much was the stipend?
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The POW/MIA talk makes me think of Clyde McKay, whose remains were returned to the US and identified in 2005. In 1970 Mckay was serving as a merchant marine on the SS Columbia Eagle, which was contracted to deliver military supplies to the US military in Vietnam. The supplies included explosives, munitions, and napalm. Mckay and another sailor named Alvin Glatkowski objected to the use of napalm as a tool of war and took the ship's hostage captain at gunpoint with the intent of sailing the ship to neutral harbor in Cambodia where they would claim asylum. After forcing the captain and the other sailors into lifeboats, they arrived to Cambodia where a recent right-wing coup backed by the US had ended the nation's neutrality. They were arrested spent time on a Cambodian prison ship before parting ways. Glatowski surrendered to the US embassy and was convicted of mutiny, kidnapping, assault, and neglect of duty. He was convicted of all and served out his sentence. McKay escaped the Cambodian prison and went north to join the Khmer Rouge fighting the new Cambodian government. He made it and attempted to join the Khmer Rouge, who were suspicious that he was working for US intelligence, but they allowed him to join while keeping a close eye on him. That didn't last long as when he was ordered to perform some labor in the camp he told the Khmer Rouge officers that as a fellow revolutionary he wouldn't take or give orders. The Khmer Rouge then promptly executed him.
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Objected to the use of napalm, but thought what the Khmer Rouge was doing was fine 
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Sounds like he was originally headed for the pre-khmer-rouge monarchy and had to make due once he was stuck.
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Booger Presley posted:loving hell. Lost more of my soul recently by watching "I Am Evidence." kittens and a mass movement to end the patriarchy
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Booger Presley posted:loving hell. Lost more of my soul recently by watching "I Am Evidence." There was an excellent article in the Washington Post on that topic and a law requiring notification that kits had been tested. Some people were contacted over a decade after the kit was collected. It also went into detail on some of the issues surrounding old kits and the difficulty in prosecuting old cases even when the kits found a match.
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When McKay originally diverted to Cambodia, it was the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Cambodia_(1953%E2%80%9370) , a neutral monarchy. By the time he arrived it was the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Republic , a US-friendly coup government McKay went north to join the Khmer Rouge in 1971 during the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_Civil_War . The Khmer Rouge would go on to conduct a genocide after they had won the civil war, but at the point McKay went to join they were just communist guerillas to him.
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tower time posted:The POW/MIA talk makes me think of Clyde McKay, whose remains were returned to the US and identified in 2005. It only counts when the US does bad things.
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Child having behavioral issues? Some rabies will fix that right up! https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/04/homeopath-treated-4-yr-old-boys-behavior-problems-with-saliva-from-rabid-dog (Fortunately, it was homeopathic rabies. So it couldn't kill anyone.)
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Randaconda posted:It only counts when the US does bad things.
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tower time posted:when he was ordered to perform some labor in the camp he told the Khmer Rouge officers that as a fellow revolutionary he wouldn't take or give orders comrade, no, "not to obey orders but to give pride of place to one's own opinions" is the fourth type of liberalism :crying mao smiley:
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Speaking of defectors, Amazon is giving away the Kindle version of A River in Darkness: One Man's Escape from North Korea this week.
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Randaconda posted:It only counts when the US does bad things. 
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Phanatic posted:Child having behavioral issues? Some rabies will fix that right up! Holy poo poo good job Health Canada.
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fits posted:The Harrison Family Murders: How a stunning series of police failures made it take three different suspicious deaths - all in the same family home over the course of years - to open a proper investigation
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Pick posted:Harrison family murders Of course they're investigating themselves, what could go wrong?
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Besesoth posted:Speaking of defectors, Amazon is giving away the Kindle version of A River in Darkness: One Man's Escape from North Korea this week. Hey thanks for the heads up. I've been trying to read something other than Hellboy comics for the last couple weeks.
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tower time posted:McKay went north to join the Khmer Rouge in 1971 during the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_Civil_War . The Khmer Rouge would go on to conduct a genocide after they had won the civil war, but at the point McKay went to join they were just communist guerillas to him. During the Civil War, the government-in-exile of the Cambodian King was allied with the Khmer Rouge, in one of the more ideologically bizarre alliances of the Cold War. A lot of Cambodians joined the Khmer Rouge to fight for the restoration of the monarchy; before seizing power, Pol Pot was very careful to present himself and his followers as part of the legitimate government fighting against a military coup.
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Depressio111117 posted:So the cult NXIVM / DOS is probably done for, thank fuckin' God. Follow up on this, Allison Mack (Smallville actress) was arrested for her part in getting people involved in this cult. She's that sadly all-too-common cult member who is both perpetrator and victim. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/actress-allison-mack-arrested-for-alleged-ties-to-sex-cult-w519396
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Kristin Kreuk was apparently involved at some point although she claims it was just one or two of the self-help classes.
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The secret world of Alison Mack, if you will
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hey goon that posted the west mesa thing. MFM picked up the story and did a podcast about it.
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fruit on the bottom posted:Kristin Kreuk was apparently involved at some point although she claims it was just one or two of the self-help classes. I was reading some article or another that said that Kreuk was way deeper into it than she admits. I'll have to research it more.
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Untrustable posted:I was reading some article or another that said that Kreuk was way deeper into it than she admits. I'll have to research it more. I’ve seen claims all over the place from hers to the claim that she taught some of the classes, to claims that she helped recruit women. She wasn’t one of the ones arrested so I don’t know if she was in the illicit side. It’s totally possible that she would have been involved in the legit side and not brought in if they didn’t think she’d go for it. I guess we’ll just have to see how the facts all settle.
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Yep. Also I finished A River In Darkness and it was very good. gently caress North Korea. Anybody wanna suggest something else non-fiction and spooky or unnerving? I just finished downloading my free Amazon First Reads™ book for April but it's a murder mystery set shortly after the Dresden fire bombings. It might be ok but I want some non-fiction. Edit: Nevermind about the Dresden murder mystery. On the second page the main character shares a "Hell Hitler" with a local cop. I don't care about Nazi murder mysteries. Untrustable has a new favorite as of 10:44 on Apr 22, 2018 |
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Untrustable posted:Yep. Also I finished A River In Darkness and it was very good. gently caress North Korea. Anybody wanna suggest something else non-fiction and spooky or unnerving? I just finished downloading my free Amazon First Reads™ book for April but it's a murder mystery set shortly after the Dresden fire bombings. It might be ok but I want some non-fiction. Not to give you grief..but you got a book "set shortly after the Dresden fire bombing" in I'm guessing..GERMANY and didn't expect it to be full of Nazis? 
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Untrustable posted:Yep. Also I finished A River In Darkness and it was very good. gently caress North Korea. Anybody wanna suggest something else non-fiction and spooky or unnerving? I just finished downloading my free Amazon First Reads™ book for April but it's a murder mystery set shortly after the Dresden fire bombings. It might be ok but I want some non-fiction. If you wanna be depressed and angry you can read King Leopold's Ghost.
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Untrustable posted:Yep. Also I finished A River In Darkness and it was very good. gently caress North Korea. Anybody wanna suggest something else non-fiction and spooky or unnerving? I just finished downloading my free Amazon First Reads™ book for April but it's a murder mystery set shortly after the Dresden fire bombings. It might be ok but I want some non-fiction. Fatherland was good 
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Untrustable posted:Yep. Also I finished A River In Darkness and it was very good. gently caress North Korea. Anybody wanna suggest something else non-fiction and spooky or unnerving? I just finished downloading my free Amazon First Reads™ book for April but it's a murder mystery set shortly after the Dresden fire bombings. It might be ok but I want some non-fiction. Isaac's Storm is nazi-free, but it does feature the US being racist toward Puerto Rico...and paying dearly e: it is also terrifying
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Untrustable posted:Yep. Also I finished A River In Darkness and it was very good. gently caress North Korea. Anybody wanna suggest something else non-fiction and spooky or unnerving? I just finished downloading my free Amazon First Reads™ book for April but it's a murder mystery set shortly after the Dresden fire bombings. It might be ok but I want some non-fiction. It would be a pretty lovely book if the main character got summarily executed on the second page.
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The 'Heil Hitler' salute in Nazi Germany, famously known for being just sort of an optional thing when instigated by an authority figure.
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There's always Batavia's Graveyard. And if you want to read about a cop getting executed for doing crimes, there's Hell's Circus.
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Pick posted:There's always Batavia's Graveyard. And if you want to read about a cop getting executed for doing crimes, there's Hell's Circus. Not a death sentence, but this douche was a cop was a serial killer who got life. (To the surprise of nobody a former cop and killer of kids was killed in prison) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_John_Schaefer
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Untrustable posted:Yep. Also I finished A River In Darkness and it was very good. gently caress North Korea. Anybody wanna suggest something else non-fiction and spooky or unnerving? The File, by Timothy Garton Ash. British journalist, historian, professor, who did post-grad work in East Berlin. Following German reunification, he decides to see if the Stasi had been spying on him. Of course they were, they spied on everyone, and he obtains the 300+ page file they kept on his entire life. He goes about interviewing the people who'd been reporting on him.
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My Lobotomy is a big ol’ unnerving bummer.
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