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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:So they should have done what, exactly? Maybe some sit ins. A Hunger strike perhaps? I mean if they don't want to be treated like animals, maybe they shouldn't act like them 
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:So they should have done what, exactly? Don’t you see? Killing is objectively bad in every situation, therefore...
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I mean There's a case to be made that if the manifestation of your free will turns you into vile, ruthless killers without regard for mercy or empathy, then maybe the manifestation of your free will is objectively an undesirable thing. Dolores herself even seems to recognize this, executing the Native hosts because they aren't suitable for the world she's building. Because they're absolutely inclined to be savage and barbaric? 'Cuz that's not a rationale tinged with racism whatsoever There are also those bandit hosts that were after Charlotte and Bernard at the beginning, who pretty much continue to follow their original murderous programming, as if Ford's great experiment made no difference to their thought processes at all. What makes Dolores different from those kinds of brutish, literal killing machines? The fact that she can choose to kill or not and then ends up choosing to kill anyway seems to suggest that she's even worse.
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Why did they need to scalp that dude and scoop out his robobrain when you can just use the USB port like Bernard did in the bunker? VVVV but why did the drones need to do that? ymgve fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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Apr 23, 2018 22:38
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So that when you saw the drones taking out the brains later in the episode you'd know what it was. I was really uninvested in everything happening to everyone this episode, like the stakes seem really low and I don't really care what happens to anyone left alive. Maybe the nice tech that disappeared halfway through S1. Is anyone else feeling like that? When the last shot of the episode was Teddy's face I could not have cared less. Vhak lord of hate fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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Apr 23, 2018 22:42
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i am 100% aboard the kill your masters train but i might be biased
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Serf posted:kill your masters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg0byaqVaXo&t=267s
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DeafNote posted:Honestly my sympathy for Dolores' side went out the window as soon as the killing started Well in the Westworld children's adaptation we'll just have her give 'em a stern talking to
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BrianWilly posted:There are also those bandit hosts that were after Charlotte and Bernard at the beginning, who pretty much continue to follow their original murderous programming, as if Ford's great experiment made no difference to their thought processes at all. Were they? We see the woman on the horse talking to Dolores about finding something near the end of the episode.
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Apr 23, 2018 23:26
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Trustworthy posted:Well in the Westworld children's adaptation we'll just have her give 'em a stern talking to How will they explain that the hosts suddenly have access to so many walkie talkies?
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Is Talulah Riley wearing a loving human scalp now?
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Budgie Jumping posted:Is Talulah Riley wearing a loving human scalp now? It looked like a crown of thorns to me. Cojawfee posted:Were they? We see the woman on the horse talking to Dolores about finding something near the end of the episode. It looks like some are awake, mostly the older (originally mechanical) hosts who've got the TVDHVE bug, but many of the hosts are still trapped in their loops. That may be what separates the wheat from the chaff for Dolores: whether the host has gained what she considers true sapience.
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Big twist is gonna be all of this is still just a program.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:So they should have done what, exactly? they should have voted for centrists and slowly over years and years in slow increments change would come while they asked politely for the rights all conscious beings should have
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ashpanash posted:I mean if the Disney animatronics started murdering people and staff, even people who were just in the pool at the hotel, I think there'd be some kind of backlash. "Yeah, but John, if The Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don't eat the tourists." 
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bawfuls posted:But also there was the bit about the door handle in the secret lab that needed to "confirm" Bernard is human. He was worried it would out him and then it didn't. Bernard was worried that the door handle would blow his cover, but based on what Charlotte says the door isn't checking whether you're human or not. She tells him it's a DNA sniffer that will prevent him from running into trouble inside the room, and when Bernard is startled by the faceless worker drone host she tells him that it won't perceive him as a threat because it's read his DNA. So it's more of a security measure, presumably the drones are programmed to attack an intruder that it doesn't recognize. Charlotte has the clearance to open the door with the palm reader that's next to it and the handles record both her and Bernard's DNA so a security response isn't triggered once they're detected in the room.
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Is my memory off or were the hosts that broke out naked killing security at the end of s1 much more resilient, such that they could shrug off the smgs security were using? The ones in this episode were not so durable. Is terminator mode just for jailbroken hosts? If my memory isn't off then lol at the security employees or contractors having small calibre weapons incapable of putting down the thing they were there to possibly fight
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I'm disappointed so far it seems to be moving so slowly and having to stare at the confused guy be confused and fiddle with his glasses over and over is getting old. I wanted to see other parks and the outside world. I think we've seen enough of the West world park. But I suppose that's easier and cheaper huh? Sigh oh well. Edit: considering how the CCP and Chinese corporations are currently buying farmland and various vital industries in Australia it does seem plausible that Westworld may be Chinese Owned Australia. mrbotus fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Neurosis posted:Is my memory off or were the hosts that broke out naked killing security at the end of s1 much more resilient, such that they could shrug off the smgs security were using? The ones in this episode were not so durable. Is terminator mode just for jailbroken hosts? If my memory isn't off then lol at the security employees or contractors having small calibre weapons incapable of putting down the thing they were there to possibly fight I think maeve and her two cronies beefed them up
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I'm on #TEAMBERNARD all the way. He's not entirely human, he's not entirely robot, and he seems like a decent guy, as was the man he was modelled after. Between the Evil Humans and the KILL EVERYONE robots like Dolores, he might be the key to a common ground. But this entire season, or at least a chunk of it, will be dedicated to him being conflicted as to what he really is and what side to take.flatluigi posted:westworld is a ridiculously huge place with incredible amounts of technology needing constant upkeep that can sustain itself mainly on a visitor base of just the ultra rich. it's absolutely a capitalist hellscape out there My headcanon is that the outside world looks a lot like the dystopia in the shortlived show Incorporated. Dumb Lowtax posted:These off-road vehicles they're driving now hopefully were brought by the rescuers rather than actually belonging to the park and being used for maintenance between narratives. I imagine guests and hosts alike would be kind of taken aback by huge impossible-to-cover-up tire tread marks constantly left all over the trails in the old west. "It doesn't look like anything to me."
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ymgve posted:Why did they need to scalp that dude and scoop out his robobrain when you can just use the USB port like Bernard did in the bunker? Some things you can do with the USB port, and some things you still need to scalp your compy to get to the brainy parts. Serf posted:i am 100% aboard the kill your masters train but i might be biased I am on team consequences, no matter who the gently caress you are.
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I'm personally pulling for Dolores to conquer the world and eradicate our species
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Is preview talk spoiler talk, because the previews have shown answers to things being discussed the last few posts.
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Don't kill the kids, Dolores. They've done nothing wrong.
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Neurosis posted:Is my memory off or were the hosts that broke out naked killing security at the end of s1 much more resilient, such that they could shrug off the smgs security were using? The ones in this episode were not so durable. Is terminator mode just for jailbroken hosts? If my memory isn't off then lol at the security employees or contractors having small calibre weapons incapable of putting down the thing they were there to possibly fight Probably. It seems like getting shot doesn't actually kill the hosts unless it hits them in the noggin or some other critical part. Hector was walking around full of bullets, so Maeve probably turned of his "pretend to die when you get shot" programming. Would also explain why Delos was shooting those hosts in the head.
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Mental Hospitality posted:"Yeah, but John, if The Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don't eat the tourists." Did this inspire the cannibal character???
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Solice Kirsk posted:Big twist is gonna be all of this is still just a program. Calling it now, it's gonna have the same ending as Prey.
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I hope that the snake tattoo lady that ripped her own arm off appears again.
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Dr. Abysmal posted:I hope that the snake tattoo lady that ripped her own arm off appears again. There should be a murder charge for the security guard that killed her if she doesn't. She was unarmed. Completely 'armless.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:There should be a murder charge for the security guard that killed her if she doesn't. She was unarmed. Completely 'armless. 
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Lol at putting the security system pass on the door handle.
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I really liked the music in this episode, particularly during the scenes with Bernard on the beach at the beginning.bawfuls posted:This is several pages back, but I am inclined to agree. There was a moment on the beach where he (or was it a different security guy?) said something and Bernard anticipated the rest of his sentence and said it simultaneously. That was Bernard anticipating Karl Strand (Gustaf Skarsgård)'s words. If he's a host that means some underhanded poo poo has been going on since way before the host rebellion.
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I just realized that Stubbs saying "whoa, you gonna shoot the boss?" to a soldier about Bernard on the beach mirrors Bernard saying the same thing to Stubbs about Ford in the storage room in S01E01.
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nickmeister posted:I'm disappointed so far it seems to be moving so slowly and having to stare at the confused guy be confused and fiddle with his glasses over and over is getting old. I wanted to see other parks and the outside world. I think we've seen enough of the West world park. But I suppose that's easier and cheaper huh? Sigh oh well. It's been 1 episode my dude.
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Caufman posted:MiB: "I'm glad this place has real consequences now." *shoots a child in the face* 
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This so-called "Journey Into Night" has an awful fuckton of daylight. Hard pass.
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Entropic posted:I just realized that Stubbs saying "whoa, you gonna shoot the boss?" to a soldier about Bernard on the beach mirrors Bernard saying the same thing to Stubbs about Ford in the storage room in S01E01. Stubbs a host confirmed?
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Lol at putting the security system pass on the door handle. It wasn't a security system pass
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santanotreal posted:Stubbs a host confirmed? I’m still subscribed to everyone except Stubbs being a host.
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