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How much different is the FFXII steam version compared to the international IZJS ps2 release? I played the ps2 version on a emulator like 5+ years ago and 100%d the game pretty much. Wondering if the steam version is worth playing.
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x4 speed option, everyone gets two classes, battle arena mode and some other minor changes I think.
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Apr 27, 2018 18:57
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FFXIII should have a new game option that immediately dumps you into the Anima fight because everything leading up to that point is almost totally pointless since you don't even have a crystarium yet gotta say though once you get past the first chapter suck the game takes off hard
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Apr 27, 2018 19:13
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Sapozhnik posted:FFXIII should have a new game option that immediately dumps you into the Anima fight because everything leading up to that point is almost totally pointless since you don't even have a crystarium yet Assuming you can beat the warmech and not get stalled out by it like some people i know
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Apr 27, 2018 19:16
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Barudak posted:Assuming you can beat the warmech and not get stalled out by it like some people i know Tutorial fight immediately beforehand: "Switching paradigms mid-battle to match the situation is the key to victory! For now, try using an offensive paradigm to quickly build the chain meter, then switch to a defensive paradigm to heal when your party takes damage" Boss fight: poo poo what do i do??? I mean, yeah XIII doesn't do the best job at player training but still uhh lol
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Apr 27, 2018 19:25
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Barudak posted:Assuming you can beat the warmech and not get stalled out by it like some people i know lol
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Apr 27, 2018 19:27
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Sapozhnik posted:Tutorial fight immediately beforehand: "Switching paradigms mid-battle to match the situation is the key to victory! For now, try using an offensive paradigm to quickly build the chain meter, then switch to a defensive paradigm to heal when your party takes damage" My personal favorite situation is "The game never tells you that Saboteurs work like Commandos!" Game: Okay so here's Sazh and Vanille, your options are Ravager/Ravager and Sab/Rav...
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Apr 27, 2018 19:47
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The best part is it was 2 different people. I had to literally stream for one of them to show them how to beat the fight because somehow my explaining “when youre low on health or you see the named attack appear at the top of the screen, switch paradigms to defensive” didnt work.
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Apr 27, 2018 19:50
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At that point you link them to the 16bit YouTube summary.
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Apr 27, 2018 20:00
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Artix posted:My personal favorite situation is "The game never tells you that Saboteurs work like Commandos!" It's also a huge pain in the rear end because SAB stops stabilizing the chain gauge as soon as you've saturated the enemy with debuffs (of which you have a grand total of two at this point) and also doesn't do any actual damage. So buffing/debuffing during trash fights is actively punished because it just makes the fight take longer. So I can see why people might go "ok thank gently caress Sazh can be a COM now" and then completely forget that this setup exists; by the time you have a useful arsenal of debuffs at your disposal you've probably forgotten all about it.
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Apr 27, 2018 20:43
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Debuffs help tremendously even in random battles, especially when you just have Sazh and Vanille on those enemies that have a shell you blow off. You dont need to stick everything though; the usual patern I use is wait till the free atb refresh then go for stagger to just straigh blow them away rathee than maximize debuffs The other enemy its super helpful with is any enemy weak to quad debuff like the psuedo cat creatures because you can open sab, tag them, then go straight to nuking one enemy down so they cant overwhelm you.
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Apr 27, 2018 21:10
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Barudak posted:The best part is it was 2 different people. I had to literally stream for one of them to show them how to beat the fight because somehow my explaining “when youre low on health or you see the named attack appear at the top of the screen, switch paradigms to defensive” didnt work. Have they played video games before?
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Apr 28, 2018 00:37
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kirbysuperstar posted:Have they played video games before? Both had played a shitload of prior final fantasys. The one I had to do a walkthrough for beat all the FFX international content without Yojimbo and did no sphere grid attempts at the game.
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Apr 28, 2018 00:49
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How is anyone that dumb? Like I know certain parts of FF13 are legit hard but how can anyone not beat that fight?
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Apr 28, 2018 00:57
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Barudak posted:Both had played a shitload of prior final fantasys. The one I had to do a walkthrough for beat all the FFX international content without Yojimbo and did no sphere grid attempts at the game. Well then. Yikes.
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Apr 28, 2018 01:00
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Elephant Ambush posted:How is anyone that dumb? Listen right here. People are loving stupid and can't follow simple instructions, or worse still, SKIP said simple instructions and then act as if they were never told. I once saw a playthrough of MGR where the person could not grasp parrying Monsoon's trash wheel, so they just kept running from side to side while complaining about how bullshit that part of the fight is.
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Apr 28, 2018 01:01
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The DarkSydePhil school of playing video games.
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Apr 28, 2018 01:07
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kirbysuperstar posted:The DarkSydePhil school of playing video games. SMDH
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Apr 28, 2018 01:30
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Elephant Ambush posted:How is anyone that dumb? People do not read instructions. There is a reason every game has mandatory tutorials now instead of dropping you into the game and expecting you to read the manual. The other is people dont really want to learn new things, so if theyve beaten 12 previous final fantasy with only mild variations on how battles flow that may not jive with what 13 wants from them. The one I didnt need to do a walkthrough for was like “I die because it deals so much damage and theres no defend command” and it took like 15 minutes to explain Sentinel is the defend command.
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Apr 28, 2018 02:03
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Some dramatic exaggerations in framing here, but hey, Eidos tried to pitch a final fantasy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl6mG3U4vaY
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Apr 28, 2018 04:05
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You have to pitch final fantasy 1 for a modern console to a western AAA company who has never heard of RPGs. How do you do it. Assume it gets taken up. How does the game turn out? lobster22221 fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Apr 28, 2018 |
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Apr 28, 2018 04:20
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Barudak posted:People do not read instructions. There is a reason every game has mandatory tutorials now instead of dropping you into the game and expecting you to read the manual. The other is people dont really want to learn new things, so if theyve beaten 12 previous final fantasy with only mild variations on how battles flow that may not jive with what 13 wants from them. I don't have many pet peeves but cutscene skippers are one of them. These are the people who mash through cutscenes and go get a sandwich while unskippable cutscenes play and then jump on these here forums and shitpost about how the story sucked and/or didn't grab them and they didn't like any of the characters (because they intentionally avoided learning anything about them other than their appearance and combat moves). Those people should sell all their games and consoles and stop playing video games forever. They don't deserve to play them.
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Apr 28, 2018 04:25
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lobster22221 posted:You have to pitch final fantasy 1 for a modern console to a western AAA company who has never heard of RPGs. How do you do it. Have a five-year-old who’s been exposed to D&D spend ten minutes randomly bringing up whatever cool poo poo they can think of. At least that seems to be the original design philosophy for FF1.
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Apr 28, 2018 04:42
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So if I want the "true" ending of World of Final Fantasy I have to beat every single intervention quest, correct? If so this game wins and I'm quitting here and just reading whatever the hell the plot was supposed to be because I'm in chapter 21 and fighting Supraltima weapon and just bored as hell.Elephant Ambush posted:I don't have many pet peeves but cutscene skippers are one of them. These are the people who mash through cutscenes and go get a sandwich while unskippable cutscenes play and then jump on these here forums and shitpost about how the story sucked and/or didn't grab them and they didn't like any of the characters (because they intentionally avoided learning anything about them other than their appearance and combat moves). You can't stop me, I'll skip every gosh darn cutscene you let me until the day I day.
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Apr 28, 2018 04:53
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Barudak posted:You can't stop me, I'll skip every gosh darn cutscene you let me until the day I day. I intentionally lose to Seymour everyday.
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Apr 28, 2018 05:08
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Barudak, I hate to be one of those people, I honestly do, but why even play the game when you very clearly don't like it and aren't into it? It's ok bud, you're with friends. None of us like WooF either. Help us help you help the thread
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Apr 28, 2018 05:22
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Gologle posted:Barudak, I hate to be one of those people, I honestly do, but why even play the game when you very clearly don't like it and aren't into it? It's ok bud, you're with friends. None of us like WooF either. Help us help you help the thread When I really don't like a game I try to finish it purely so that when I complain I complain about everything. I think I'm just giving up on this shitheap now.
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Apr 28, 2018 05:26
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When you say "shitheap" do you refer to the game, this thread, Final Fantasy as a whole, your masters Square and - and Enix, or your video game addicted lifestyle that is driving you to ruination?
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Apr 28, 2018 05:37
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Barudak posted:When I really don't like a game I try to finish it purely so that when I complain I complain about everything. You didn't even finish the game and you're telling me it's bad?
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George posted:You didn't even finish the game and you're telling me it's bad? I'll edit these posts later to imply that I did.
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Apr 28, 2018 05:40
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WoFF is the best Final Fantasy game released in recent years and I cannot wait for WoFF 2
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Elephant Ambush posted:I don't have many pet peeves but cutscene skippers are one of them. These are the people who mash through cutscenes and go get a sandwich while unskippable cutscenes play and then jump on these here forums and shitpost about how the story sucked and/or didn't grab them and they didn't like any of the characters (because they intentionally avoided learning anything about them other than their appearance and combat moves). Honestly I think it's a fair criticism of writing to say that one skipped all the cutscenes. It clearly never grabbed ones attention and based on the writing outside of cutscenes, one then assumes the cutscenes will be worthless.
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morallyobjected posted:WoFF is the best Final Fantasy game released in recent years and I cannot wait for WoFF 2 It's slow and easy and kinda..bland in terms of mechanics, nothing happens until 20 hours into the game and man does it have the annoying and the cliché characters that are the talking too much
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:It's slow and easy and kinda..bland in terms of mechanics, nothing happens until 20 hours into the game and man does it have the annoying and the cliché characters that are the talking too much Enna Kros has grown bored of your critique, and will now enjoy some hot coffee. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Il91vWq1s
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:It's slow and easy and kinda..bland in terms of mechanics, nothing happens until 20 hours into the game and man does it have the annoying and the cliché characters that are the talking too much But enough about [your favourite Final Fantasy game]
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:It's slow and easy and kinda..bland in terms of mechanics, nothing happens until 20 hours into the game and man does it have the annoying and the cliché characters that are the talking too much we can argue about what qualifies as "bland" in mechanics but I don't find it simpler than most other FF games. I like switching out Mirages at will and finding new stack combinations (and the game's experience system makes that relatively easy to do), the story and writing has endless charm, and Tama's the-speech pattern didn't annoy me one bit. plus it has things like this all over the place: 
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Apr 28, 2018 13:16
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So I'm in chapter 9 of FFXV, just about to get on the boat to Altissa, and I was wondering what DLC, if any, I can now play? I know Episode Ignis shouldn't be played until after the main game but what about the other three? And do you get any items from them that can be transferred over the main game? Also is there a way to delete all your photos at once?
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Apr 28, 2018 13:21
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It is incredibly obvious when you should play Gladious and Prompto, trust me.
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Apr 28, 2018 13:22
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EvilTaytoMan posted:So I'm in chapter 9 of FFXV, just about to get on the boat to Altissa, and I was wondering what DLC, if any, I can now play? I know Episode Ignis shouldn't be played until after the main game but what about the other three? And do you get any items from them that can be transferred over the main game? You could get away with playing the Gladio one, but that's it. It'd probably be better if you waited to do the other two campaigns until you've finished the game to be honest. Some items from completing challenges can carry over, but they're not that important. And you should hang on to your photos.
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I have hung onto my photos. I'm playing it on the PC so I've backed them up and using a program called Prompty to convert them into jpegs. I just wanted to make room for new ones.
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