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I said come in! posted:This might be a good plan. Get a 4K TV with real good HDR, those TVs currently are quite expensive. Don't make the mistake I made and get a cheap HDR TV. This is what I bought because I didnt know better https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072FN2B2N/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It's a great 4K TV, but the HDR is only 8bit and quite weak overall. You want something with dolby digital HDR. I did more or less the same thing because my hand was forced when my old TV straight-up died, and I really couldn't afford to dive into anything fancier. Still I'm happy with the results, and I kind of feel that for non-gaming purposes 1080 is enough p's. Hell even for gaming purposes, hitting some real diminishing returns territory, not to mention how hard to come by 4K material actually is.
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I'd like a bigger tv but my budget doesn't stretch to a 'good' 4K one at the moment so I'll probably just wait until my current one breaks or the next console gen makes 4K standard and I don't have to worry about getting one with the crap HDR or whatever.
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Honestly I'm teetering on the opinion that you're probably off just getting a really good 1080p TV. Could well be a function of how big a screen you want to get and how far you sit from it, but there's limited 4K material available especially if your internet isn't really good and it's really not a significant step up from 1080p IMO. Maybe if you spend a few grand and get a big OLED.
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May 10, 2018 13:14
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I have a tiny TV that I like a lot because when I play fighting games or twitch platformers like Super Meat Boy on the bigger one there's some kind of delay
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May 10, 2018 13:18
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I thought that 1080p was perfectly fine until I bought a 1440p monitor and now I have a really hard time playing downscaled PS4 games. The crisper resolution is probably my #1  priority now, even ahead of the almighty 60fps.
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I don't really need one, it was just my stupid consumer brain going '40 inch is getting on the smaller side of tvs now you know....' so I'm fine waiting until either 4K is the standard or has gone the way of 3D TVs.
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You've got good taste Pizza Parlor.
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oddium posted:when are projectors going to overtake tvs Few have truly dark rooms which is definitely what you want for a projector, on top of all the setup they require in terms of a surface to project on, a place where the projector can go without being obstructed, stuff like that. But at least for 1080p units you can get decent ones for not that much, and they're the only modern option for 3D if you still want to do that, but then you also have to import movies from Europe if you're in North America because most studios stopped bothering with NA releases.
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:it's cute and eyecatching 
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exquisite tea posted:I'm combo breaking this string of anime porn avatars to say... I can't believe Atlus is charging $50 for this HD update to Dragon's Crown what the hell Japan. Dragon's Crown is really fun but I don't see myself paying full price for it a second time around. I do really enjoy its mix of 2D brawler, dungeon crawler, and Diablo-style looter, though.
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Oh does no one bother with 3D in the US anymore? I didn't think anyone here did either but I still see the 3D Blu-ray releases for every big movie on sale
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exquisite tea posted:I thought that 1080p was perfectly fine until I bought a 1440p monitor and now I have a really hard time playing downscaled PS4 games. The crisper resolution is probably my #1  except I'm way worse because I only have 1080p displays, so what I'm getting annoyed by is games that render at 720p or 900p, which feels very silly to me but that's where I am now.I'm afraid of what will happen to me when I finally make the leap to buying a 4K display.
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I like finding cool and odd Kiry pictures for my avatars now 
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VideoGames posted:I like finding cool and odd Kiry pictures for my avatars now Its a good rear end posting brand
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Speaking of sidescrolling beat-em-up rpgs, I should get back into DFO and play the new subclasses for the Demonic Lancer. One of the new ones is the Dragoon and he's basically all I wanted out of that class. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3-_hOCn-KQ   
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VideoGames posted:I like finding cool and odd Kiry pictures for my avatars now It leads to good avs for sure FirstAidKite posted:Speaking of sidescrolling beat-em-up rpgs, I should get back into DFO and play the new subclasses for the Demonic Lancer. One of the new ones is the Dragoon and he's basically all I wanted out of that class. I've never played DFO but that looks sick as hell. I'm a sucker for fast, flashy spear fighters and anything called Dragoon.
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Sakurazuka posted:Oh does no one bother with 3D in the US anymore? I didn't think anyone here did either but I still see the 3D Blu-ray releases for every big movie on sale Some studios are still clinging like Warner and Universal, but others have abandoned putting out North American SKU's like Disney (their last one was Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 as a Best Buy Exclusive Steelbook with the 4K version included as well), and even then some offerings can be weird, like a few Disney and Pixar films were only put out on Blu-ray 3D internationally (including Frozen, Big Hero 6, I think Ratatouille also). It's gone in a similar direction to Laserdisc, it's pretty much understood with the hardcore collectors that they have to import to get what they want. The same is true for the super-rich fuckers who got an Auro3D setup, there's only like 10 or so movies you can get with Auro3D and you have to import from very random territories (usually Germany, although Blade Runner 2049 you have to get from Poland).
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Harrow posted:I've never played DFO but that looks sick as hell. I'm a sucker for fast, flashy spear fighters and anything called Dragoon. DFO owns, definitely one of my favorite MMORPGs of all time. Then again, my favorite MMORPG list is weird since it's like "Guild Wars is cool, City of Heroes owns, also here's Dungeon Fighter Online and motherfuckin freeware Graal Classic bitchessss"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diderot_effect basically.
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FirstAidKite posted:DFO owns, definitely one of my favorite MMORPGs of all time. Then again, my favorite MMORPG list is weird since it's like "Guild Wars is cool, City of Heroes owns, also here's Dungeon Fighter Online and motherfuckin freeware Graal Classic bitchessss" Holy poo poo I remember Graal Anyway your list seems pretty rational to me. GW1 was real good and I'd probably still go back and play CoH sometimes if I could. Maybe I'll give DFO a shot sometime--it definitely looks like it has a unique take on the action-MMO concept.
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Just know that DFO is a korean mmorpg and its endgame stuff has a lot of raid type poo poo where you're expected to gear up in specific ways and team up with others in specific ways to kill stuff better. I love the game but I was never any good with raids and I did better with the main story PvE stuff where I could just run through a dungeon a couple of times and press my hotkeys to make cool animations go off and watch the enemies explode into meat chunks.
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Aw hell that's exactly it. I vaguely remember being unimpressed by the first HD TVs I saw in stores and I thought they were a waste of money, and now my stupid eyes can point out exactly when a game with adaptive resolution drops below 1080p for even a few seconds. It's a goddamn curse. Side note, but at this point my track record on which new technology will catch on is so bad that I'd recommend everyone bet on the opposite of what I think. I thought iPhones were dumb (who'd want to do everything on a touch screen?), then years later I thought iPads were dumb (it's just a big iPhone!), and, uh, let's just say that didn't bear out. FirstAidKite posted:Just know that DFO is a korean mmorpg and its endgame stuff has a lot of raid type poo poo where you're expected to gear up in specific ways and team up with others in specific ways to kill stuff better. I love the game but I was never any good with raids and I did better with the main story PvE stuff where I could just run through a dungeon a couple of times and press my hotkeys to make cool animations go off and watch the enemies explode into meat chunks. Yeah that's fine. I never really get into MMO endgames that much anymore. Does it do that classic Korean MMO thing where you need to power up your equipment, but beyond a certain level there's a chance that the powering up process will gently caress up and you'll lose all the resources and/or maybe even lose all the powering-up progress you've done so far? That one used to be everywhere.
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The Colonel posted:here's a screenshot of einhander I hope you can get it to work because Einhander loving rules. Sakurazuka posted:I don't really need one, it was just my stupid consumer brain going '40 inch is getting on the smaller side of tvs now you know....' so I'm fine waiting until either 4K is the standard or has gone the way of 3D TVs. Meanwhile my stupid consumer brain just got a VCR.
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Harrow posted:Does it do that classic Korean MMO thing where you need to power up your equipment, but beyond a certain level there's a chance that the powering up process will gently caress up and you'll lose all the resources and/or maybe even lose all the powering-up progress you've done so far? That one used to be everywhere. YUP but thankfully it's like... well here's a chart.  On top of that, you can get reinforcement tickets through events (and probably the cash shop, I haven't checked that in a while) that'll guarantee reinforcement up to a certain level, as well as some that'll safeguard against the breaking so it'll just go down to +0 instead. Reinforced stuff at that high of a bonus only matter for those endgame raid things iirc.
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FirstAidKite posted:YUP "Item breaks" is an absolute classic, the greatest commitment to the cause of being a Korean MMO
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univbee posted:Few have truly dark rooms which is definitely what you want for a projector, on top of all the setup they require in terms of a surface to project on, a place where the projector can go without being obstructed, stuff like that. But at least for 1080p units you can get decent ones for not that much, and they're the only modern option for 3D if you still want to do that, but then you also have to import movies from Europe if you're in North America because most studios stopped bothering with NA releases. The real upgrade is in HDR. Which not a lot of content supports, but the games and movies that do support it look pretty beautiful. It's a night and day difference over normal 1080p or normal native 4K.
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I said come in! posted:The real upgrade is in HDR. Which not a lot of content supports, but the games and movies that do support it look pretty beautiful. It's a night and day difference over normal 1080p or normal native 4K. HDR is a hella-weird thing since yeah it looks better but then so does just getting a better TV that does SDR colors better, not sure where the line is. And I suspect on a PC the smart thing to do might be to play stuff at a lower resolution with the effects turned up (like 1440p or even 1080p) as well as HDR, instead of trying to run stuff in true 4K. What also drives this is if you want movies/TV that's watchable anywhere that pretty much means you need an SDR copy as well, you can't "just" have an HDR copy (HDR->SDR isn't an automatic conversion thing). And then UHD Blu-ray's have the whole issue of typically being simpler in nature at this stage (e.g. in a few cases they'll only have a single version of a movie while the Blu-ray will have them all). With the really messy availability of UHD Blu-ray I think I'm just going to get a 4K Apple TV since I have an extensive library of stuff from years of digital codes and beefy enough internet for it, and those by default give me the SDR versions as well.
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The biggest game-changer for me recently has been G-Sync as it completely smoothes out the stuttering and screen tearing normally associated with oscillating between fractions of your monitor's native refresh rate. You don't need to target 60fps in every possible area of the game anymore since it can perfectly transition to a slightly lower framerate without losing visual fidelity. It's still hella expensive though.
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univbee posted:And then UHD Blu-ray's have the whole issue of typically being simpler in nature at this stage (e.g. in a few cases they'll only have a single version of a movie while the Blu-ray will have them all). I had decided a few years ago that I wanted to go with Amazon digital for my video library. They have yet to upgrade to 4K video which is frustrating because I prefer digital movies over physical, but I already have a large Amazon library and I feel like switching over to another service such as Apple for buying movies would be annoying.
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I said come in! posted:I had decided a few years ago that I wanted to go with Amazon digital for my video library. They have yet to upgrade to 4K video which is frustrating because I prefer digital movies over physical, but I already have a large Amazon library and I feel like switching over to another service such as Apple for buying movies would be annoying. Yeah, iTunes was an easier choice in Canada since it's practically the only choice, and by the time other services started offering things here they were mostly inferior (no extras, stereo only, no language/subtitle options while iTunes almost always gives you English and French here at least), and then free upgrades to 4K was just awesome, especially since that means a lot of titles will go on sale for like 7 bucks or have digital codes in a regular Blu-ray version on clearance somewhere for like 4 or 5 bucks. Still it would be nice for 4K in general for the catalog to expand, very few movies older than the Obama administration on the format, and I think only 3 non-American films, one of which was a movie mastered at 1080p anyway.
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Sakurazuka posted:I don't really need one, it was just my stupid consumer brain going '40 inch is getting on the smaller side of tvs now you know....' so I'm fine waiting until either 4K is the standard or has gone the way of 3D TVs. 4k has become the new smart TV in that it's pretty much is the standard hardware-wise in newer mid-range tv's now, even if its actual utility is questionable straight 1080p is only available in the cheapest models and tends to come with a lot of other faults besides OLED is the new "why. why though" tier of television bells and whistles
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oddium posted:the best graphics are the ones you make along the way Splatoon tagline?
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mutata posted:So like I'm not a picky gamer, but I also don't love every game I try out either. I didn't play Destiny 1 at all. I've played Destiny 2 solo now up through level 7. It feels very Halo. I like the hub worlds where enemies just spawn periodically and other players are milling about and you can just shoot poo poo. The story is fine. It's all pretty chill and fun. It's definitely gonna get stale in another 10 hours. I don't give a poo poo about the cosmetic stuff that's all microtransactiony but I get it if people are. i'm incredibly picky about fps games so i'm probably gonna skip it but these seems like a good and rational attitude toward it yeah
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