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SyntheticPolygon posted:Neither of those characters are the pods. They also aren't Jackass.
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Or 2B and 9S's weighty tension!
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May 6, 2018 12:08
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You have to play NieR1 to appreciate that character. Otherwise it's just like okay you're weird and funny, bye.
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I got an original-Nier spoiler question I don't know anywhere else to ask. Is Emil's butler an android, or what? There may have been an in-game explanation that I just missed or don't remember since it's been like literally seven years since I played it.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I got an original-Nier spoiler question I don't know anywhere else to ask. I prefer to believe no, he's just a human and happens to own a mannequin of himself because he's got no friends. He might have been a scientist back in the day and this is the replicant version of him. Maybe Grimoire Nier has more about it, but I haven't read it yet.
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Lol I finally decided this morning gently caress it, I should get this game, and the sale ended. Thanks steam for changing my mind back  and saving me the moneys.
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May 6, 2018 20:37
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TalkLittle posted:I prefer to believe no, he's just a human and happens to own a mannequin of himself because he's got no friends. He might have been a scientist back in the day and this is the replicant version of him. Maybe Grimoire Nier has more about it, but I haven't read it yet. 
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:Lol I finally decided this morning gently caress it, I should get this game, and the sale ended. Thanks steam for changing my mind back your loss, pal
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wizard on a water slide posted:your loss, pal Eh it'll be at least 50% off come summer sale.
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All the Nier 1 chat gave me the itch to replay it, but my xbox 360's disc drive is busted and this game doesn't seem to be for sale on the xbox marketplace. Yoko taro, remaster this game, for me, specifically please
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I got an original-Nier spoiler question I don't know anywhere else to ask. I was wrong. If you look through the full Grimoire Nier translation (holy poo poo, 98 pages!) it mentions that neither Emil nor his butler are human and they don't age. So I guess the mannequin is most likely a spare android body, like most people would normally assume. Too bad, human butler would have been more interesting. A couple general tidbits I enjoyed from skimming through the Grimoire Nier: "The story told in NieR is actually the second part of the settings I came up with, and the amount of deleted content in the first part is enough to fill up two games." "Music in this game was inspired by some shooting games that Yoko played, and the composer was friends with him since their university days." -- I didn't know Keiichi Okabe and Yoko Taro were long-time friends. Aw. Still skimming, but it seems like they pretty much explain everything you'd want to know about NieR's connection with Drakengard (aka "DOD" or "Drag-On Dragoon"), and also the stuff from Nier: Automata in-game intel talking about Project Gestalt, White Chlorination Syndrome, Legion, etc. Yeah, I'm definitely going to buy a copy of this book.
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Nier remaster where you could choose your main character would be pretty cool. Never played either version
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Honestly Automata wouldn't have beaten OG Nier for me if you'd played as Kainé in the second route onward. The addition of playing as the other androids is what clinched it but boy is it still a close race.
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TalkLittle posted:Yeah, I'm definitely going to buy a copy of this book. Also did we ever find out where Cathedral City originally came from or are that and Accord still the two big hanging plot threads?
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Also did we ever find out where Cathedral City originally came from or are that and Accord still the two big hanging plot threads? Those are Drakengard 3 things right? I don't know anything about Drakengard 3 but boy do I want to find out now! YouTubing Drakengard 1 seemed like the right choice to get the plot points and understand the stuff about dragons and giants that are referred to a bunch of times in the NieR games. Being a 2003 game I don't think I'd enjoy slogging through the gameplay of it. Drakengard 3 though hopefully is worth it. And from what I understand, Drakengard 2 is a pass right? I probably won't even bother YouTubing that one since fans seem to ignore it.
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Drakengard 3 is more of an LP game as well in my opinion. There is a decent game in there somewhere, but frame-rate issues and the game re-using levels makes it pretty rough.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Also did we ever find out where Cathedral City originally came from or are that and Accord still the two big hanging plot threads? Are they hanging though? AFAIR the Cathedral City is on a stable time loop and Accord are multiverse observers/caretakers, not much to it really TalkLittle posted:Drakengard 3 though hopefully is worth it. Even watching somebody play it can be painful. Read Dark Id's LP like any other sane person
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Ruffian Price posted:Even watching somebody play it can be painful. Read Dark Id's LP like any other sane person and yes I'm comparing it to another Yoko Taro game from 2010 as a positive point of comparison so uh, whoops edit: oh right I made another post earlier, re: Accord she/they seem like they're constructed and not born (whether machine/robot/android who knows) so where did they come from, given that such a thing is now a relevant question after N:A, and did I miss whatever kicked off the stable time loop that Cathedral City is in because I don't recall that.
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Ive never played any of the older games but the weapon craftsman in the resistance camp mentions that Accord is the manager of the place? Is that at all relevant?
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Not even slightly. I mean, there's possibly story relevance there that could come up in the next game or the one after, but it's just an Easter egg at the moment.
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I saw it as foreshadowing to D&P.
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I always figured that since the ancient ruins of Cathedral City look like burned out 20th century skyscrapers that it’s just burned out Tokyo after a time-loop or two. It’s the easiest explanation.
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i am tim! posted:I always figured that since the ancient ruins of Cathedral City look like burned out 20th century skyscrapers that it’s just burned out Tokyo after a time-loop or two. It’s the easiest explanation.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Right, I had been assuming it was some kind of modern city after a war or something, but it's like the one big enigma that hasn't really been touched on at all and I'd love to see where he thought he was going with it. basically a chunk of modern day Tokyo fell into the middle of not Spain and unleashed magic on the world
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I thought it went the other way? A chunk of dragon and god babby touched down on Tokyo.
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Bogart posted:I thought it went the other way? A chunk of dragon and god babby touched down on Tokyo. We don't know why (although we do know they nuked Tokyo from the Nier backmatter - it was a miserable failure that only spread the magic particles further and ruined their containment - it doesn't seem to have literally dimentionally shifted it) edit: also reminder that Nier has crossover weapons with Dragon Quest and FF15 which has the same mythos as FF13 which has an ending where Lightning literally goes to Paris so there are at least three distinct Earths in the Nierverse
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The Cypress Stick weapon story is the opening of DQ3, which also takes place on Earth, kinda?
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The entire side-operation during Project Gestalt was the replicants and androids gathering up all the Maso (magic element) and disposing of it. Presumably a massive batch disposal was Cathedral City and thus that which was will be.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:That poster's saying that D1 ending E made Nier-world's modern Tokyo get magic, and then at some unspecified future date a part of Nier-world was sent back to D1 world, because Cathedral City is just a thing that showed up one day. Maybe Lightning's Paris is the same one as in Nier, so her ending is going to be followed by dying of space god. Simplifies the number of Parises.
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this is fairly impressive https://twitter.com/Haco_85_/status/996403193453072384
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Just started this after a year of having it on my backlog. It's always been number 1 but somehow something else always insisted on getting in the way. Now I'm 20 hours in (just beat the goliath in the water) and absolutely hooked. So, I have a lore question re: the original Nier. I'm not immediately sure of the spoiler protocol for this thread at this point in the game's lifecycle so I'll just put everything in spoilers: are the humans who lived long enough to be attacked by the aliens and machines the same as the replicants from Nier? How do the androids in Automata relate to the androids in Nier? Just met Popola and Devola again last session I've watched a couple timeline summaries and i keep missing the answer to this pretty basic question.
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The game does answer your questions later on, you’re just not that far in, relatively speaking.
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Last Celebration posted:The game does answer your questions later on, you’re just not that far in, relatively speaking. Gotcha, wasn't sure if I was missing a key connection there.
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I've been slowly making my way through The Dark Id's Drakengard 3 LP and currently about halfway through. I was excited because one of Accord's lines is really, really close to the theory I posted surrounding the NieR:Automata concert stage play epilogue, specifically black boxes causing timeline splits. The line in Drakengard 3 is: "In the flow of post-Cataclysm history, if a unique set of conditions known as "singularities" come together, splits occur in time, resulting in the multiple-world divergence phenomenon." Also in the same cutscene she calls Zero, the main character, a "singularity" -- so humanoids can be singularities. Note that I haven't finished the LP and don't know the true nature of what Zero is, so please don't spoil that for me! Drakengard 3 starts kind of slow if you're looking for lore and tie-ins to NieR. It looks like there are actually a bunch of tie-ins and I'm beginning to get to the meat of it. Anyone interested in finding out more about NieR lore, it's probably worth playing through the Drakengard 3 LP.
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So what was the trigger that made half my side quests disappear? Do they ever come back or do I have to wait for my next playthrough?
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Deified Data posted:So what was the trigger that made half my side quests disappear? Do they ever come back or do I have to wait for my next playthrough? It was 9S going missing. And they won't come back until you finish the game, but don't worry about it.
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That's route A done. Does your next playthrough remember your sidequest progress? Like how much G you've given to the inventor, or what belt you're on for the dojo guy? Will it reissue sidequests you've done already?
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Deified Data posted:That's route A done. Does your next playthrough remember your sidequest progress? Like how much G you've given to the inventor, or what belt you're on for the dojo guy? Will it reissue sidequests you've done already? I believe you have to restart any sidequests you haven't finished, but any you have stay done.
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