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I tried a game as savoy and maybe im missing something but how do you do anything? If i try and expand in any direction i get aggressive expansioned to oblivion. Is there a trick i havent got yet as a newbie
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May 16, 2018 23:28
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Pocky In My Pocket posted:I tried a game as savoy and maybe im missing something but how do you do anything? If i try and expand in any direction i get aggressive expansioned to oblivion. Is there a trick i havent got yet as a newbie HRE provinces count double for AE. Combined with the fact that most of northern Italy is high dev provinces that already cost a lot of AE it makes expanding difficult until the Italian minors leave the empire en masse in 1490.
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May 16, 2018 23:55
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Having high AE isn't the end of the world. In order for a coalition to form against you, there need to be at least four countries in the world that meet these criteria: -Doesn't have a truce with you -Is not allied to you -Has a negative opinion of you -Has at least 50 AE against you If there aren't at least four nations that meet these criteria, a coalition will never form, no matter how much AE you accrue. One of the best ways to prevent coalitions is to keep them in truces. Or you can improve relations with them to keep their opinion positive. Even if a coalition does form, if you're strong enough they won't even try to attack you.
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May 17, 2018 00:07
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Pocky In My Pocket posted:I tried a game as savoy and maybe im missing something but how do you do anything? If i try and expand in any direction i get aggressive expansioned to oblivion. Is there a trick i havent got yet as a newbie It's a tricky position, yes. Your options are basically: 1- Ally the Holy roman Emperor so you can nibble on other HRE nations, very slowly, and preferably when the emperor is busy with a war somewhere else. 2- Ally France or Castile+Aragon and rely on their big stick to let you cannibalize your other neighbors. 3- Ally whomever is France's biggest enemy at the moment and use them to eat French territory. The Influence ideas tree has a talent that cuts AE by 20%, and it's a must-have when expanding in high-value, high-nation-density areas like Italy, Germany, and Northern India.
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May 17, 2018 00:08
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Am I the only person that doesn't like the mission revamp? They seem fun for nations that actually got any of the new missions. For the other 300 tags it's utter bullshit.
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May 17, 2018 06:13
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It's at least less bullshit than the old mission system, even for generics.
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May 17, 2018 07:11
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Fister Roboto posted:It's at least less bullshit than the old mission system, even for generics. Saying bye-bye to the recurring bonuses hurts a lot, though. The special tag-specific missions tend to make up for that, but if your tag doesn't have any? Too bad. Enjoy a dozen mediocre temporary bonuses spread throughout the game.
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May 17, 2018 07:53
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I guess, but other than the colonist rush I don't think any of the generic mission bonuses were that great.
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May 17, 2018 08:02
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The "free claim on rival" mission was extremely useful for generating a CB at the very start of the game and losing it has made a number of challenging starts even more difficult.
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May 17, 2018 08:13
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Some of the old missions were useful, but they weren't like "fun".
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May 17, 2018 10:06
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As someone who just started playing recently. The discovery that most places dont have mission trees was a shock. It definitely seems like it would be a good add for a lot of countries
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May 17, 2018 13:42
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I think they're planning to add them to more countries as they release DLCs/patches focused on their respective areas. They were only added in the last one, which focused on Britain, so British countries got the most love, along with a few other major tags. I expect for example that a lot of Indian tags will get fleshed out trees with the next DLC.
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May 17, 2018 13:58
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Wasn't it like this with National Ideas at the start too, where most of the countries except some favourites had generic ones? And then they worked on them and even accepted fan submissions for them?
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May 17, 2018 15:40
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Some of the old missions were useful, but they weren't like "fun". Yeah but the new generic missions are neither useful nor "fun". Its a straight up downgrade for like 90% of starts. I can't believe they couldn't give at least regional variations, like a colonial chain or the British dominate the HRE chain to Europeans
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May 17, 2018 15:49
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Is it possible to find more than one of the seven cities per playthrough?
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May 17, 2018 16:47
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I tried an ottomans game and went full throttle as fast as possible. At one point I was fighting 4 coalitions at once. As one would declare war on me, another would start to form. Ottomans don't care, once you get good generals everything is food. One downside is that all my neighbors have been beggared and nations a little further out (spain, russia, france) are huge monsters at 1650. Fister Roboto posted:Having high AE isn't the end of the world. In order for a coalition to form against you, there need to be at least four countries in the world that meet these criteria: Didn't know about this, makes the rolling coalitions make more sense
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May 17, 2018 16:50
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skasion posted:Is it possible to find more than one of the seven cities per playthrough? yes, but I believe they recently made finding a city give a bunch of development and a permanent buff to a New World province rather than giving your nation a buff
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May 17, 2018 17:03
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Groogy, any chance we can get something like the new dilpo interface but for missionaries? I'm doing coptomans and managing my 5 missionaries constantly suuuuucks
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May 18, 2018 13:44
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Is Rule Britannia considered a good buy?
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May 18, 2018 15:54
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Dirk Pitt posted:Is Rule Britannia considered a good buy? I enjoyed my UK playthrough with it, but I can't tell if it was because of the expansion or because of the patch that coincided with the expansion.
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May 18, 2018 16:27
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Dirk Pitt posted:Is Rule Britannia considered a good buy? It adds very little other than dedicated more fun stuff for playing in the british isles as far as I am aware, so probably not?
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May 18, 2018 17:39
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Rule Britannia is still full price in the current sale, and it seems to be the rule for immersion packs that they add very little unless you're playing one of a few special countries. It seems like a pretty bad deal to me. Meanwhile I'm trying to justify my purchase of Cradle of Civilization just now. Mamluks sure seem powerful with it, maybe I can finally stand up to Otto Man?
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May 18, 2018 18:36
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Cradle of civilization at least has SOME changes that apply to Basically All Of Islam, it's MUCH wider ranging than the Britain and Russia ones.
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May 18, 2018 19:35
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hello i also have a suggestion: can you make it so countries you have a truce with show up as yellow or something in the coalition warning menu. or countries you don't have a truce with, whatever
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May 19, 2018 00:27
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Which of the post Common Sense EU4 DLCs are worth picking up? My understanding is that Third Time and Rule Brittania aren't really worth it unless you're playing in those areas a lot. What about the Cossacks, Mandate of Heaven, and Cradle of Civilization? Are those any good? Are estates as tedious as they look? I know Rights of Man is good because I've got it, and Mare Nostrum doesn't add much.
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May 19, 2018 00:40
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I don’t know this game without estates and I think they’re good.
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May 19, 2018 00:41
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Estates are Fine, just boring compared to what people hoped for. If we're lucky they'll be overhauled someday
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May 19, 2018 00:56
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Cossacks and CoC own. MoH is actively bad to have, but it has a fantastic UI impovement gated behind it.
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May 19, 2018 00:56
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Third Rome is great if you want to take a massive poop on everyone as Russia
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May 19, 2018 01:12
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Well, just sparked off a Coalition War as Bharat, featuring countries like: - big Bengal - koncerning Kazakh - coarse Chagatai - annoying Ajam - horrible Hormuz - aghast Afghanistan - devastated Delhi - and a couple small Ming tributaries that got pissed off I tore off a chunk from their master in the last war I should be okay, with stronger army stats and level 6 forts sitting on the border to Bengal. Here's hoping Ethiopia can do a sneaky backstab into Hormuz's heart since they're the ones that called it.
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May 19, 2018 02:59
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the man loves to fight
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May 19, 2018 03:21
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I think it’d be cool if there was a way to tell how old your generals are
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May 19, 2018 04:02
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Estates annoy me because shaking them down for MP whenever they hit high loyalty is another thing I have to remember doing I just got CoC and laughed when I saw how they jammed in the professionalism bar and the new army controls. They're gonna have to make EU5 just because they ran out of UI space.
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May 19, 2018 10:22
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Not to divert people from the totally-not-EU:Rome 2 announcement but the store page for Dharma has the following: "New Indian Estates: Alongside a free update to the estate system, India gets five new castes. Raise the brahmins to reduce unrest in a province or install Jain governors for a boost to income while reducing manpower." And "New Cossack Government: Exclusive for owners of The Cossacks expansion." Did they finally square the circle on Estates by making them a free feature and then adding an extra paid feature to Cossacks to make up for it?
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May 19, 2018 11:57
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Jay Rust posted:I think it’d be cool if there was a way to tell how old your generals are I’d have also thought there would be a pop up with “automatically roll and attach general in the now ungeneraled army” button
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May 19, 2018 12:00
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Jel Shaker posted:I’d have also thought there would be a pop up with “automatically roll and attach general in the now ungeneraled army” button That would add up to a lot of wasted mil points unless you're constantly at war
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May 19, 2018 13:15
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Wafflecopper posted:That would add up to a lot of wasted mil points unless you're constantly at war Oh I meant like click here and New general gets plopped onto the army, more as a helpful thing to new players rather than those experienced in balancing their points I suppose at this point most players from now on arnt going to be new though
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May 19, 2018 13:25
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One thing that I didn't realize for a while and am bad at managing is that the influence of your estates increases the bonuses they give (province wise along with nation wide), along with the number bonuses on their actions. So if you shake them down for monarch points and they're high influence you can get like 150 (not sure if it goes higher, that was something like 75% influence). Then the balancing act is that going over 80% for too long is really bad, but you get rewarded for riding that line. Overall there is a surprising amount of depth to the whole system that I enjoy, though I am really bad at trying to leverage it. On an aside, do you guys try to leverage the humiliate wargoal to collect those sweet, sweet MP rewards?
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May 19, 2018 15:41
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It’s good to be able to humiliate someone early on for the age objective. After that I pretty much always forget about it.
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May 19, 2018 15:53
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Humiliation wars can be extremely useful due early game. Getting +100 mp towards mil tech 4/6 is often better than another province. Doubly so if you sneakily manage your rivals to avoid having to do any heavy lifting during the wars.
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