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Salvor_Hardin posted:Pretty sure IT is a UFA. With Bird rights in LA. I forgot that's where he ended up. morestuff posted:Luka hedging a little bit This is a pretty common response before the draft, but if he didn't want to go to Sac right away that might work in their favor to get a good process rolling since they don't have a pick next year. Take on some contracts and settle in for 2-3 years of being really bad instead of just bad.
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Lockback posted:This is a pretty common response before the draft, but if he didn't want to go to Sac right away that might work in their favor to get a good process rolling since they don't have a pick next year. Take on some contracts and settle in for 2-3 years of being really bad instead of just bad. They already tried that with George Hill + Z-Bo
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I don't know if there is anyone in the nba (of realistic possibility) that I would less want my basketball team to commit major money to than Isiah thomas
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G-Hawk posted:I don't know if there is anyone in the nba (of realistic possibility) that I would less want my basketball team to commit major money to than Isiah thomas I just really want the Lakers to end up in a hilarious situation (sorry Rick)
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May 17, 2018 16:29
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G-Hawk posted:I don't know if there is anyone in the nba (of realistic possibility) that I would less want my basketball team to commit major money to than Isiah thomas DMC is up there, nobody returns from his injury 100%, especially ~7 foot big boys
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May 17, 2018 16:41
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Isn't Luka still playing in the Euroleague at this very moment? Probably wouldn't be diplomatic to say he's on his way out while still playing with his team.
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May 17, 2018 16:47
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Rick posted:You're explaining color to a blind person. lmao
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Cool Buff Man posted:DMC is up there, nobody returns from his injury 100%, especially ~7 foot big boys Yeah someone is definitely going to give him a deal that the regret almost immediately and it's gonna be sad. Unless it is in fact the Lakers and then it'll be funny
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WhyteRyce posted:Isn't Luka still playing in the Euroleague at this very moment? Probably wouldn't be diplomatic to say he's on his way out while still playing with his team. This is quite correct
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Luka get your service time for the second contract. You'll probably be great but injury hampered, you need the money.
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This could also just be Luka bluffing the Kings into not drafting him. Can't see why any player would want to pause the service time clock when there are such massive pay awaiting.
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He wants to go to Slovenia West, aka Memphis
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Dexo posted:I too don't want to play for the Kings.
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I completely forgot Cousins is pretty much hosed from that injury. So obviously he’ll be a mav
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G-Hawk posted:I don't know if there is anyone in the nba (of realistic possibility) that I would less want my basketball team to commit major money to than Isiah thomas He might not have gotten traded if he hadn't been talking about Brinks trucks so much Man that trade hit me pretty hard at the time but I have predictably learned to love Kyrie, and Terry Rozier's rebirth has helped me fully move on e: what if IT was still on our team, but Rozier took his starting spot while he was injured and then never gave it up, lol loquacius fucked around with this message at 19:27 on May 17, 2018 |
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I mean that coach hire is a pretty big statement. But Gambo is right so often that if his source says Ayton, I believe that is where the Suns are right now. Although there is a lot of time to change between now and the draft.
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Hiring a coach who wants one guy and then immediately overruling him to pick someone else becuase they're more marketable locally feels like a very Robert Sarver thing to do. Ayton is still a good pick for them at least though.
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Spacebump posted:https://twitter.com/treykerby/status/996832758059208704 Suns light years ahead?
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Hiring a coach because you have a 25% chance to draft a specific player is really stupid. He was hired because they thought he was the best for the job
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WhyteRyce posted:Hiring a coach because you have a 25% chance to draft a specific player is really stupid. He was hired because they thought he was the best for the job On the other hand, Robert Sarver
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WhyteRyce posted:Hiring a coach because you have a 25% chance to draft a specific player is really stupid. He was hired because they thought he was the best for the job Sure but once you've hired him it seems like giving him a player he is familiar with and has already demonstrated the ability to use well would be a pretty good idea.
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MourningView posted:Sure but once you've hired him it seems like giving him a player he is familiar with and has already demonstrated the ability to use well would be a pretty good idea. Oh I'm not saying the coach wont have influence or input over the pick. And that by picking that coach they are tipping the direction they want to go. But that's different than Luka being a done deal since the hire.
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MourningView posted:Sure but once you've hired him it seems like giving him a player he is familiar with and has already demonstrated the ability to use well would be a pretty good idea. I'm not sure I 100% agree with this. I think you'd still want whatever prospect you think is best, and if that's equal you'd consider what scheme you want before familiarity. Just because the player has played with the coach before doesn't mean that player fits what they want to do.
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I always appreciate the quirks of history that led to the Balkans being such a basketball powerhouse
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I always appreciate the quirks of history that led to the Balkans being such a basketball powerhouse Balkan can Ball this needs to be a T-shirt
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I always appreciate the quirks of history that led to the Balkans being such a basketball powerhouse Tito's most revolutionary move was establishing state indoctrination + basketball camps
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“Jahlil Okafor”
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NickRoweFillea posted:“Jahlil Okafor” The dreaded Jahlil Okafloor
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Mo Bamba, welcome 2 Cleveland
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Mo Bamba, welcome 2 Cleveland There's your consolation prize for LeBron leaving.
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Between his measurements and his approach in interviews, Mo Bamba seems genetically designed to get a GM at the top of the draft to fall in love with him He even started on the "Working out in a gym against a short white dude" propaganda train early https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jovfTPpBEw
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I have a feeling the Mavs either draft Bamba or someone with Jr. in their name.
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AggressivelyStupid posted:what are the rules about player-owners? asking for a friend Nothing explicit, though because players are not allowed to gain anything financially aside from salary when playing it opens up a really though situation. If somehow you can structure a player to still get market-rate and have his ownership held in a trust or something, that would probably work. Jordan had to sell his Wizards ownership when he played for them because of that, and I don't know that anything has been cleared up since.
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NickRoweFillea posted:“Jahlil Okafor” Hasheem Thabeet seems like the more worrisome comp I would think
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DeimosRising posted:I'm not talking about how much they're moving, I'm talking about the offenses they run. Magic's slow teams were after his legs started giving out, and while I did forget about the 2004 Cavs, that 13th ranked pace was 90.4 so I don't think it's much of a counter argument (god 2000s basketball was awful). A player cannot be constrained to merely what offense they exist (or have existed) in. Each player is a lot more malleable than that and can look different from year to year, team to team and coach to coach. e.g. Compare Pau Gasol on different years of some of those Lakers teams. They appear the same and had the same name but not much else. Michael Jordan/Kobe Bryant/LBJ and many other players with long careers have played differently when on very different teams. Henchman of Santa posted:This whole playoffs has been great for people making grand declarations about every series after one game as if they’ve never seen a playoff series in their life. The only time it’s been accurate is that we all knew the Raptors were getting swept after they blew game 1. This happens every year. The term "must win" is hilariously overused. Barkley and others have declared so many series over before they actually were. DeimosRising posted:Comparing numerical results and declaring that a proxy for play style is very obviously a fallacy. If you run a cluster analysis and get a cluster of Lebron, Magic, and Larry Bird and then declare they all play basketball similarly, you're making the first and biggest of all statistical mistakes - you're not measuring the phenomenon about which you're drawing conclusions. Every player is unique. Numbers are not a perfect proxy for play style. However, .55 standard deviations is still a noticeable difference and it's improbable that I'll ever call another player on the planet very similar to LBJ. Like I said in another post even if we could clone LBJ five times and put them in different environments they'd be five different players on five different teams. Some of them might be even closer to Magic and some would be farther off. One big difference in careers between actual Magic, Bird and LBJ is that Magic had way too much sex and contracted HIV, Bird drank too much beer and injured himself etc. while LBJ has spent millions on his body to perfect his health/recovery and sticks to looking at Instagram models. Both of them played ~40,000 NBA minutes total while LBJ is still trucking at 55,000 MP without exhibiting many signs of slowing down. PS what players do you believe compare closest with LBJ?
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