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A Westworld Actress Says Fans Keep 'Mansplaining' the Show to Her https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-westworld-actress-says-fans-keep-mansplaining-the-sho-1826139098
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May 18, 2018 21:53
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The Hambulance posted:A Westworld Actress Says Fans Keep 'Mansplaining' the Show to Her How is that "mansplaining"? Is it only male fans? Wouldn't it be "fansplaining"? Also, quote:That said, Woodward doesn’t know everything. She said she was surprised when it turned out Bernard was a host, saying she was “being lied to by literally everyone,” including actor Jeffrey Wright. And for season two, the show has taken even more precautions to ensure that actors don’t know too much about what’s going on. She said actors have been filming sequences out of order, and don’t know their place in the overall narrative. poo poo, there was some interview with Wright or Wood where they were said they were trying to compare notes and figure out when certain scenes take place in S2 during filming. None of the actors know the whole story.
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May 18, 2018 22:21
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Yes, I think she was implying they were men, hence the term.
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May 18, 2018 22:25
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Hosts tired of humans guestsplaining consciousness and the right to be.
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May 18, 2018 22:45
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William could run a PVP server while Ford could do the vanilla quest server. It seems they had plenty of territory to set that up.
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May 18, 2018 23:05
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It's very sad and hilarious that ERW and Shannon Woodward willingly burn free time on something akin to TVIV. I'm not rich or famous and most of the time I'm like "goddamn why the hell do I do this?". Go start a vodka brand or do drugs or something jesus.
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May 18, 2018 23:23
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I wish the word mansplaining would die a slow and agonizing death.
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May 19, 2018 00:05
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Intel&Sebastian posted:It's very sad and hilarious that ERW and Shannon Woodward willingly burn free time on something akin to TVIV. I'm not rich or famous and most of the time I'm like "goddamn why the hell do I do this?". On the other hand, this is the Brave New World where we fans can interact with the creators, writers, and actors in a way impossible 40 years ago. The final form being when the Fans Become The Creators (i.e. Current Doctor Who Showrunners/Writers/Actors)
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May 19, 2018 00:08
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esperterra posted:I wish the word mansplaining would die a slow and agonizing death. What are we gonna use? Logicsplaining? Does not have that ring to it.
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May 19, 2018 00:11
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Astroman posted:On the other hand, this is the Brave New World where we fans can interact with the creators, writers, and actors in a way impossible 40 years ago. The final form being when the Fans Become The Creators (i.e. Current Doctor Who Showrunners/Writers/Actors) It's nice and all but like why would I ever do it so much that I'm not even talking to people who enjoy talking to me and I enjoy talking to anymore. Like the second I started feeling like this is a chore or someones being an rear end in a top hat I'd be like lol gently caress this I'm rich I'm gonna go outside and get a steak or buy some cool shoes.
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May 19, 2018 00:23
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esperterra posted:I wish the word mansplaining would die a slow and agonizing death. Maybe it would if certain people would stop doing the specific rude act that it perfectly describes at such a rate that it warranted having a word.
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May 19, 2018 00:29
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Honestly the word just makes me embarrassed as a woman tbh. It's not as if we don't shittily explain things to eachother in a way that's talking down, as well. It really doesn't warrant a gendered word imho.
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May 19, 2018 00:30
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esperterra posted:Honestly the word just makes me embarrassed as a woman tbh. It's not as if we don't shittily explain things to eachother in a way that's talking down, as well. It really doesn't warrant a gendered word imho. If you don't think it's a good or useful word, then feel free to not use it. Those of us who do will continue to do so.
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May 19, 2018 00:36
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Also what if instead of an actual Ark, the woke hosts and their companions figured out that the new storage method for human->host has a lot more storage space than a single host actually needs and they all smuggled themselves out in a single (or a few) body? And then flooded themselves as cover? I've been wondering if that's not what's happened with Present Day Bernard. At the very least, I'm edging toward it being Dolores in there instead of Teddy - her cavalier attitude to killing off 'unworthy' hosts in ep3, basically saying not everyone deserves to get to Heaven, would tie in with Bernard's 'I killed them' at the end of the first episode. Teddy showing up in the water would make sense, since, after seeing him free the captured Confederados, his worthiness has clearly dropped in her estimation. I don't know if they'll wind up being some gestalt personality in there, with all the hosts essentially faking their death and uploading themselves to some big server that happens to be/be in The Valley Beyond or Glory or whatever we're calling it this week, but I can easily see her being at the forefront of whoever's lurking in Bernard's brain muffin.
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May 19, 2018 01:41
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Well let's hope the mansplaining derail ends soon. It's man-noying.
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May 19, 2018 03:31
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Intel&Sebastian posted:It's very sad and hilarious that ERW and Shannon Woodward willingly burn free time on something akin to TVIV. I'm not rich or famous and most of the time I'm like "goddamn why the hell do I do this?". Wait do you mean reddit? Isn't that like TVIV with no rules and also misogyny and also emptyquoting is the most popular form of response?   
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May 19, 2018 04:01
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Did the article actually mention they spend time on some TV forum? I thought that in general they just get fans having these discussions with them possibly irl, at which point people tell them they don't know poo poo. And mansplaining is a thing hth.
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May 19, 2018 04:07
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Intel&Sebastian posted:It's nice and all but like why would I ever do it so much that I'm not even talking to people who enjoy talking to me and I enjoy talking to anymore. Like the second I started feeling like this is a chore or someones being an rear end in a top hat I'd be like lol gently caress this I'm rich I'm gonna go outside and get a steak or buy some cool shoes. That's probably how Shannon Woodward feels, but I'm pretty sure guys like Stephen Moffat or David Tennant would argue minutia with fans ALL DAY LONG.
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May 19, 2018 04:26
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A Buttery Pastry posted:But then your clone decides it needs a vacation, and hey, this WW thing sounds cool - and eventually the park is overrun by clone vacationers. *picks up WW brochure* “It doesn’t look like anything to me.”
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May 19, 2018 04:39
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Clocks posted:Did the article actually mention they spend time on some TV forum? I thought that in general they just get fans having these discussions with them possibly irl, at which point people tell them they don't know poo poo. And mansplaining is a thing hth. Actually...
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May 19, 2018 05:37
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Dancer posted:If you don't think it's a good or useful word, then feel free to not use it. Those of us who do will continue to do so. Is this just plain splaining then
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May 19, 2018 06:47
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Pirate Radar posted:Is this just plain splaining then  
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May 19, 2018 07:38
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esperterra posted:Honestly the word just makes me embarrassed as a woman tbh. It's not as if we don't shittily explain things to eachother in a way that's talking down, as well. It really doesn't warrant a gendered word imho. I've actually seen a blogpost where someone argued that when a woman talks down to a woman, it should also be called mansplaining. Dunno. Something something feminism.
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May 19, 2018 09:26
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Oh, more fool me!
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May 19, 2018 09:45
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How do you "mansplain" WW without misuse the word? Somebody goonsplain to me.
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May 19, 2018 12:24
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I just see it more as insufferable nerds being insufferable. I've known more than a few women who'll go mind-numbingly indepth with their fan theories and explain why you're wrong about seemingly straightforward things.
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May 19, 2018 13:06
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whatever7 posted:How do you "mansplain" WW without misuse the word? Somebody goonsplain to me.
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May 19, 2018 13:31
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I could happily watch some more scenes of Ed Harris mansplaining death and other misunderstood concepts to people. Preferably with broken bottles and distinctive incidental music.
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May 19, 2018 13:35
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Intel&Sebastian posted:...it was not a great look for them to kick off S2 with a modern white dude scalping a dead Native... This was the one that bugged me the most, because they're wasn't a great narrative justification for it. They clearly set up that moment to happen, with those people, in that way, just to be edgy. "Dude, imagine this shot... A real switcheroo, right? Right, brah?" It was such a shallow, lazy shock moment, and a show this smart should be above that. Trustworthy fucked around with this message at 13:53 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 13:50
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Trustworthy posted:"Dude, imagine this shot... A real switcheroo, right? Right, brah?"
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May 19, 2018 14:40
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Scalping was historically done by white Americans too, against American Indians (and each other). It's not really a switcheroo. Oh come on, obviously I'm talking about the broadest, by far most pop-culturally ingrained stereotype of Indians scalping white people. Being flipped solely for cheap shock moment on a show about a cowboys and Indians theme park. Trustworthy fucked around with this message at 15:35 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 15:28
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Trustworthy posted:It was such a shallow, lazy shock moment, and a show this smart should be above that. Add in the rail workers killing people by putting them under the tracks and driving spikes through them to this list too.
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May 19, 2018 15:32
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They also had to bring up the scalp tattoo again so 
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May 19, 2018 15:45
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Maybe that tattoo is just a QR code for authentication, like the Nescafé pods. “Unsupported muffin detected, please call customer support.”
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May 19, 2018 15:52
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WampaLord posted:Add in the rail workers killing people by putting them under the tracks and driving spikes through them to this list too. They also like to stage very gruesome repaire scenes of the hosts like they are in a Tarantino movie. "Why don't the hosts have USB ports so you can terminal in to wipe the brain?" My imaginary Nolans answer is, "Robot is oppressed people! We have to hammer home the analogy!" whatever7 fucked around with this message at 16:15 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 16:07
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:I just see it more as insufferable nerds being insufferable. I've known more than a few women who'll go mind-numbingly indepth with their fan theories and explain why you're wrong about seemingly straightforward things. Female fans would never do such a thing. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to my essay on why Sam and Dean are destined to have sex.
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May 19, 2018 16:47
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Trustworthy posted:Oh come on, obviously I'm talking about the broadest, by far most pop-culturally ingrained stereotype of Indians scalping white people. Scalping was a thing in both cultures long before either met each other. I think it's just a common human trophy thing. Same reason why taking ears/fingers was common through out different civilizations. They're just easy trophies.
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May 19, 2018 19:16
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Solice Kirsk posted:Scalping was a thing in both cultures long before either met each other. I think it's just a common human trophy thing. Same reason why taking ears/fingers was common through out different civilizations. They're just easy trophies. Scalps and ears and noses have always been popular because each person only has one. Fingers are easy to chop but the others are unique per person so it’s like a register of kills. The scalp was for the hair knot or whatever it’s called and ears are obvious. I don’t think it was trying to be some kind of social statement just showing how they get in there and having a callback to the maze tattoo.
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May 19, 2018 19:24
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TK-42-1 posted:Scalps and ears and noses have always been popular because each person only has one. Someone may have shortchanged you shortly after birth, amigo.
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May 19, 2018 19:24
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A Buttery Pastry posted:As I understand the word, mansplaining is basically being condescending - but your sense of superiority comes specifically from being a man. Obviously some people are like that no matter who they're talking to, but there are definitely dudes who think being a dude means being able to argue about any subject with authority - even when arguing women who any neutral observer would identify as the authority on the subject. I think having actually acted the scenes might qualify an actress as a greater authority on a show than some random nerd. It's one of those things that definitely happens, but dumb people that are obviously wrong about something and can't defend their position have co-opted it as a get out of being wrong free card. And yeah, guys are typically condescending to each other all the time and a lot of people aren't used to it. Anywho, I just rewatched the first four eps of this season and they flow WAY more well that way than watching week to week. In fact, this season actually watches a bit better than S1 on a binge. Darko fucked around with this message at 19:53 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 19:33
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