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Podcast confirmed that Michio Pa's role is now in Drummer, and they've put aspects of Bull into both Drummer and Ashford. Ashford's a bigger part now because they got an actor they like so wanted it to be more than it is in the book.
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Apparently there's a big contingent of Bull fans on the internet who are sad he's not showing up.  He never really stood out to me as anything more interesting than a pair of eyes on board the Behemoth, so I'm all in favor of divvying up his plot to more interesting characters.
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May 24, 2018 15:39
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Lord Hydronium posted:Apparently there's a big contingent of Bull fans on the internet who are sad he's not showing up.  he was a nice badass to have around but so is Drummer. e: mech suit Drummer 
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May 24, 2018 16:06
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Bull and Pa were both fine but Drummer vs Ashford in this episode was great so focusing on just that is fine by me. Always more Drummer. She's three and a half whole characters now, how many can we feed her?
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May 24, 2018 16:07
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Lord Hydronium posted:Apparently there's a big contingent of Bull fans on the internet who are sad he's not showing up. He was one of my favorite characters in the whole series. Put in an impossible situation, setup to fail, but fiercely loyal. He consistently makes the correct judgement on the correct side. He's one of the true good guys. You could see he wasn't going to make it but still when he didn't survive it hit me hard. Having said that, I totally understand why he gets left out.
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May 24, 2018 16:08
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drewhead posted:He was one of my favorite characters in the whole series. Put in an impossible situation, setup to fail, but fiercely loyal. He consistently makes the correct judgement on the correct side. He's one of the true good guys. You could see he wasn't going to make it but still when he didn't survive it hit me hard. i feel like Cara Gee is eminently capable of carrying that arc as Drummer
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May 24, 2018 16:12
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Drummer always looking like she really wants to shoot everyone she's talking to who isn't Naomi or (sometimes) Fred is my favorite thing.
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May 24, 2018 16:13
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Grand Fromage posted:Drummer always looking like she really wants to shoot everyone she's talking to who isn't Naomi or (sometimes) Fred is my favorite thing. 
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May 24, 2018 16:14
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Will Drummer die like Sam or Bull I hope Bull. I also hope for Robo-Drummer
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May 24, 2018 16:16
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Naomi stays on with the OPA, Drummer ends up leaving and signing on with the crew of the Rocinante after this season.
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May 24, 2018 16:16
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zeal posted:i feel like Cara Gee is eminently capable of carrying that arc as Drummer Agree, but that wasn't the dynamic I got from last night. Ashford seemed the cool calm and collected type, and Drummer was the hothead. While Bull is the one who spaces the pixie dust dealer, he does so with some reluctance and the point is more about appealing to the Belters in a manner in which they are use to/understand even though he's not one of them. The act gives Pa the ability to stick up for Belters even though she knows Bull did the belter thing. None of that nuisance was there in the show with the changed cast of characters. Drummer seems to be going down the book Ashford motivations, and Show Ashford seems to be more of the Bull/Pa to me. But it's early in this arc and I may be just misreading things. I mean they can't ultimately take Drummer down book Ashford's arc and kill her off right? RIGHT?
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May 24, 2018 16:23
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Grand Fromage posted:Podcast confirmed that Michio Pa's role is now in Drummer, and they've put aspects of Bull into both Drummer and Ashford. Ashford's a bigger part now because they got an actor they like so wanted it to be more than it is in the book. Gonna be interested to see the show Drummer fanclub react to her being complicit in the biggest war crime in Human history if we get that far with the show and assuming she's going to take over Pa's role in the Free Navy plot too.
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May 24, 2018 16:24
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They might find it interesting to start Drummer and Ashford in these spots and then reverse them later. Instead of the commander -> mutiny -> mutiny #2 thing just have a single mutiny with Ashford taking over to be crazyman.ATP_Power posted:Gonna be interested to see the show Drummer fanclub react to her being complicit in the biggest war crime in Human history if we get that far with the show and assuming she's going to take over Pa's role in the Free Navy plot too. Well, in a theoretical world where we get all nine books adapted they'd have to change that to have Drummer in her book seven role, it wouldn't make sense otherwise.
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May 24, 2018 16:25
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The Expanse is written by liberals and as such the entire Marco storyline is red-scare style anti-left slander, to not only sympathize with imperialism but advocate for it. I'm hoping it will be more nuanced and correctly identified as a Martian plot.
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May 24, 2018 16:27
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Inaros did literally nothing wrong
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May 24, 2018 16:30
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Crazycryodude posted:Inaros did literally nothing wrong well except betray the revolution
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May 24, 2018 16:30
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Grand Fromage posted:They might find it interesting to start Drummer and Ashford in these spots and then reverse them later. Instead of the commander -> mutiny -> mutiny #2 thing just have a single mutiny with Ashford taking over to be crazyman. That hadn't occurred to me. But that actually makes a lot of sense.
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May 24, 2018 16:33
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Grand Fromage posted:Well, in a theoretical world where we get all nine books adapted they'd have to change that to have Drummer in her book seven role, it wouldn't make sense otherwise. Not too much though right? Didn't Pa more or less just ride off into the sunset post time-skip after the establishment of the spacing guild? I really need to reread the last few books to refresh my memory.
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May 24, 2018 17:00
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ATP_Power posted:Not too much though right? Didn't Pa more or less just ride off into the sunset post time-skip after the establishment of the spacing guild? Yeah Pa gets to be the first boss of the ITU for being less insane than Marco and being the first belter in sight of Holden when he gets offered the job and is all “gently caress no” (if she hadn’t been he would have given the job to naomi)
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May 24, 2018 17:03
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Grand Fromage posted:Drummer vs Ashford in this episode was great Drummer is always a joy to watch but I'm kinda in love with Ashford already just for the insane accent.
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May 24, 2018 17:25
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Grand Fromage posted:They might find it interesting to start Drummer and Ashford in these spots and then reverse them later. Instead of the commander -> mutiny -> mutiny #2 thing just have a single mutiny with Ashford taking over to be crazyman. drewhead posted:He was one of my favorite characters in the whole series. Put in an impossible situation, setup to fail, but fiercely loyal. He consistently makes the correct judgement on the correct side. He's one of the true good guys. You could see he wasn't going to make it but still when he didn't survive it hit me hard.
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May 24, 2018 17:59
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Lord Hydronium posted:That's fair! Anna's one of my favorite characters in the series for similar reasons, which I think isn't an extremely popular opinion itself. HA! Anna's one of my other favorite characters. She gets to ask all the good questions. Also it's refreshing to see a religious leader portrayed in the light of trying to further mankind's understanding of itself and it's surroundings. In particular I thought her scenes early in last nights episode were great. But she's suppose to have red loving hair goddammit 
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May 24, 2018 19:28
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PriorMarcus posted:From the non-spoiler thread; He's doing it again: Rah! posted:drat that was crazy
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May 25, 2018 06:17
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so i'll spoiler tag this: 
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What's even the point of doing that? Looking smart to internet strangers? Nobody's fuckin buying that it's speculation, coyo, stop posting spoilers in the non-spoiler thread.
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May 25, 2018 06:31
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As much as I think tviv often goes overboard about spoilers, that's a dick move.
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May 25, 2018 06:33
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How dare someone make educated guesses based on prior knowledge and common scifi tropes. Quick, someone post in the thread that they're mostly correct and should edit their post. That'll solve the problem.
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May 25, 2018 06:37
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So not spacing the guy is gonna bite Drummer in the rear end, right? Ashford is going to throw the prison barge order he gave in her name back in her face later: if Drummer was that fuming about not spacing the guy the average Belter probably wont view it favorably, either. I vaguely remember this plot from the book, so I am interested to see how they shake it up!
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May 25, 2018 06:42
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Grand Fromage posted:Drummer always looking like she really wants to shoot everyone she's talking to who isn't Naomi or (sometimes) Fred is my favorite thing. Well nearly everyone she’s been talking to who isn’t Fred (and sometimes Naomi) really needs shot. ATP_Power posted:Gonna be interested to see the show Drummer fanclub react to her being complicit in the biggest war crime in Human history if we get that far with the show and assuming she's going to take over Pa's role in the Free Navy plot too. She could be one tenth of one percent responsible for the rockfall and she would still be worse than Hitler. She’s dead to me if she even hears rumours of the plot and doesn’t warn the UN. That seems likely. 
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May 25, 2018 06:51
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Grand Fromage posted:Podcast confirmed that Michio Pa's role is now in Drummer, and they've put aspects of Bull into both Drummer and Ashford. Ashford's a bigger part now because they got an actor they like so wanted it to be more than it is in the book. I hope they find a way to have Drummer be in some crazy 5-way marriage like Pa was, that was fun to see. Also I liked Bull a lot, he just kinda worked for me. Edit: I'll miss engineer what's her face who gets capped for slowing stuff down to help the good guys, though if Naomi ends up put in that position that's going to make for a hell of an intense scene for us book readers even knowing she has to have plot immunity from death. She might still end up with a robo-arm or eye or something, you never quite know for sure. NowonSA fucked around with this message at 08:53 on May 25, 2018 |
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May 25, 2018 08:27
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Kinda feel 'Melba' was miscast. Wasn't she supposed to be identical to Julie, or am I misremembering?
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May 25, 2018 12:55
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Milky Moor posted:Kinda feel 'Melba' was miscast. Wasn't she supposed to be identical to Julie, or am I misremembering? Not literally twins or anything, just similar enough that she gets mistaken for Julie by A) someone looking at an untextured 3D model of her face and B) someone who hasn't seen them since they were kids.
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Toast Museum posted:Not literally twins or anything, just similar enough that she gets mistaken for Julie by A) someone looking at an untextured 3D model of her face and B) someone who hasn't seen them since they were kids. Ah, okay.
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May 25, 2018 13:00
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Platystemon posted:Well nearly everyone she’s been talking to who isn’t Fred (and sometimes Naomi) really needs shot. Imagine being so brain broken you say "every belter should be shot" and then be angry about the rocks in the next sentence Garnering sympathy for the evil inner empires is the worst liberal bullshit this series ever pulled
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May 25, 2018 14:57
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Earth deserved the rocks, the belt deserved independence
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May 25, 2018 14:58
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Marco did nothing wrong except being named Marco and generally being a tool.
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May 25, 2018 15:01
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Phi230 posted:Earth deserved the rocks, the belt deserved independence bloom posted:Marco did nothing wrong except being named Marco and generally being a tool. 
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May 25, 2018 15:42
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bloom posted:Marco did nothing wrong except being named Marco and generally being a tool. The Belter revolution needed to happen but Marco was probably the worst pick to lead it for everyone but Duerte.
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May 25, 2018 16:12
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Speaking of Marco, IIRC Naomi didn't even flinch when Dawes namedropped him in season 2 (well, his OPA clan).
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May 25, 2018 20:27
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Remember when his scientist economist guy says "we really have to start working on our new nitrogen based economy plan now." and he's like "shut up nerd I'm going along with all my best ships to chase after my ex and her new boyfriend."
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Phi230 posted:Imagine being so brain broken you say "every belter should be shot" and then be angry about the rocks in the next sentence This is like if I said “nearly everyone Hitler’s dog meets needs bitten” and you accuse me of wanting to kill every ethnic German. The fact that they are meeting people of only one race is a because the people they are meeting are the leaders and facilitators of a fascist ethnostate.
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