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Rinkles posted:"Over the same time period" means Skyrim probably sold more. Maybe significantly. Game had legs and now multiple ports. Yeah. Still, this is hilarious since FO4 is the worst game in the franchise excluding Brotherhood of Steel.
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Terminally Bored posted:Yeah. Still, this is hilarious since FO4 is the worst game in the franchise excluding Brotherhood of Steel. It's better then F3. I might also say it's better then Tactics.
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May 29, 2018 17:20
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Man, I've got a review for you guys but I don't want it to get buried by all this Bethesda stuff because it's for something really, really, really good. Go read it here if you want to hear about how much I love Tower of Time right now, and then I'll post it up in the thread for discussion after everyone gets the Fallout out of their systems.
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Oh my, what? That's terrible. Oh geeez, that game was unironically bad, for me. Like, I was super stoked about it, got the season pass (which I never do) and realized after ~15 hours that I had paid $90 for a lovely version of Minecraft that I didn't want. Ugh...really hoping CDPR drops some Cyberpunk news at E3...  Too Shy Guy posted:Man, I've got a review for you guys but I don't want it to get buried by all this Bethesda stuff because it's for something really, really, really good. Go read it here if you want to hear about how much I love Tower of Time right now, and then I'll post it up in the thread for discussion after everyone gets the Fallout out of their systems. This looks neat.
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May 29, 2018 17:49
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Rookersh posted:It's better then F3. I might also say it's better then Tactics. It's only better than F3 in the gameplay department, it's worse in every other way.
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fallout 4 is the most playable modern fallout game you can actually hit shots outside of vats e: i played 3 and nv on console
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Fun Times! posted:
Get ready to be disappointed by something dumb like Fallout Online.
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May 29, 2018 17:57
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Soul Glo posted:fallout 4 is the most playable modern fallout game Yes, it is the best shooter in the franchise. But it's loving terrible as a Fallout game.
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May 29, 2018 17:57
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Terminally Bored posted:Yes, it is the best shooter in the franchise. But it's loving terrible as a Fallout game. It's also still bad as a shooter even if it is better than the previous ones
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May 29, 2018 17:58
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Andrast posted:It's also still bad as a shooter even if it is better than the previous ones I got doom 2016 and FO4 at the same time. I hated everything they did on FO4 compared to New Vegas and why would I play it if it was a substandard shooter compared to Doom.
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May 29, 2018 18:02
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New Vegas > 3 > 4 for the modern ones in my opinion. FO3 at least had the excuse of resurrecting the series in a totally new style for its foibles. Everything about 4 was just hilariously bad to me: the wasteland aesthetic made no sense, two-thirds of the writing went into those little memento mori scenes (because nobody has moved those skeletons in 200 years despite running a shop), and there were two towns. It was more like a Rage sequel than a Fallout game... Also, unless you do a gimmick Luck build, FO4 is pretty much no fun gameplay wise. It did give us this video, however, so maybe it was all worth it in the end...
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May 29, 2018 18:02
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I'll accept a fallout 3 remaster if they follow up with a new vegas remaster. Odds aren't good for that one though.
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It's gonna be something stupid and/or boring. Any big announcements won't come until the proper E3 conference at June 10.
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May 29, 2018 18:06
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Ok, by good story and characters, do you mean like an ARPG, or like a proper RPG?
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Too Shy Guy posted:Man, I've got a review for you guys but I don't want it to get buried by all this Bethesda stuff because it's for something really, really, really good. Go read it here if you want to hear about how much I love Tower of Time right now, and then I'll post it up in the thread for discussion after everyone gets the Fallout out of their systems. Would you recommend this for someone who loved Divinity Original Sin 1 & 2 or is it more in the vein of Pillars Of Eternity and old Black Isle games?
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Deakul posted:It's only better than F3 in the gameplay department, it's worse in every other way. I know I've made this argument before, but go replay Fallout 3. It won't hold up, I guarantee it. It's got a two towns total. One has 3 quests, one has 4. Combined there are between 9 and 12 side quests in the entire game. There are no factions. ( Fallout 4 only also really has two real towns, but there are significantly more quests in each town, and reasons to go visit them. The accessory towns also tend to have more quests/reasons to visit and stay at them then stuff like Little Lamplight or the Vampire Tunnels. ). There are only 5-6 unique locations, and all are located in Downtown D.C. Most environments don't actually lead to story/content they just have loot you can grab ( but due to the small loot table, you generally just get guns you can throw into the endless repair furnace. ). There are only 3-4 Ranged Weapons, and 2-3 Energy Weapons. There are no real unique weapons. If you go Energy Weapons you at least have something of an upgrade path as you can eventually go from Hunting Rifles > AKs > Energy > Plasma, but if you went Ranged only you'll probably be stuck with the Hunting Rifle all the way to max level, maybe the Chinese Assault Rifle. There is technically a single Sniper Rifle in the game, but it's still bugged to do less damage then the Hunting Rifle because Bethesda thought it's range was enough of a bonus ( so you'll use the Hunting Rifle due to the bulletsponge problem. ). None of the Shotguns do fuckall after about midway through the game due to the rapidly rising HP of enemies. It suffers from the Borderlands problem of bulletspongey enemies, to a degree worse then F4. If you hit Point Lookout at max level you can easily go through 3-5 reloads with the Chinese Assault Rifle per ghoul, even with max Ranged Weapons/full stims. Energy Weapons don't do much better. You can explore between 75%-80% of the entire world in sub 20 hours. You can do all the DLC as well in sub 25 hours. This is with all/most quests done and getting to max level. It's not a bad game, but it tries to be Fallout 1 without the writing/experience of being a 2d Isometric game. A short form experience doesn't translate well to an open world like that, especially with how much is missing. They do a lot of fillin with random encounters, but it's not enough to offset that the entire game is so devoid of content. It gets a LOT of credit here for both being the first real wasteland open world, and due to the Fallout 4 backlash. But it's not that much better. Like we can talk about how F4 just has "Sarcastic" as an option all we want, but at least those options generate different responses. In F3 every response is "Yes." "Sure." "Ok, gotcha." but worded differently. There is no interplay at all until you get to one of the three quests that offer you choices. Fallout 4 has more quests in a single faction then Fallout 3 has in it's entire game world. It's got factions to join, it's got multiple unique environments, it's got dozens of gun types to use ( even if you end up using pipe for a bit too long. ). It's got dozens of side stories and basically every location has something that happened there you can learn about that's unique to it and interesting. There are reasons to pop into random abandoned houses/warehouses even outside of the Settlement System and you find cool stories everywhere, unlike F3. Neither has good main story quests, both are way too forced so that's a net neutral. Like it basically boils down to what they try to be and what they are. F3 wants to be a tight story driven experience and thus eschews exploration and gearing up. Except it's story is almost worse then F4s, and there really isn't enough else in the game to support sticking with it for long periods of time. F4 wants to also be a story driven experience, but at least took a step back and built out the exploration/world/auxiliary content so when the story failed the player was still left with plenty of content to enjoy. I put something like 60-70 hours into F4 and basically never continued the core quest after Kellogg because it bored me. I had a lot of fun exploring dozens of different building types, forts, towns etc. I did something like 50-60 side quests. I made a new character and started as a bandit. I did all sorts of cool stuff and the game actually supported that to a degree. I'm 100% down for a F3 Remaster, but I'm also going to find it really funny if people jump in expecting better F4 and then beat the game over a weekend and see all it's really glaring issues again. Ideally if they are remastering 3 they are also adding in new content/quests, or at the very least more guns to use. A F3 built in the F4 engine with all the F4 guns could ease a lot of the games issues.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:New Vegas > 3 > 4 for the modern ones in my opinion. FO3 at least had the excuse of resurrecting the series in a totally new style for its foibles. Everything about 4 was just hilariously bad to me: the wasteland aesthetic made no sense, two-thirds of the writing went into those little memento mori scenes (because nobody has moved those skeletons in 200 years despite running a shop), and there were two towns. It was more like a Rage sequel than a Fallout game... How was the ending of 4? Before DLCs 3 had that loving infuriating "It's something YOU have to do" radiation death room that your rad-immune ghoul and supermutant buddies just couldn't do for you ending. On the other hand I got bored of 4 and never finished it.
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May 29, 2018 18:27
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Anyone give Moonlighter a try? It looks just like Recettear, but pixel graphics instead of anime. https://store.steampowered.com/app/606150/Moonlighter/
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May 29, 2018 18:30
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Darkrenown posted:How was the ending of 4? Before DLCs 3 had that loving infuriating "It's something YOU have to do" radiation death room that your rad-immune ghoul and supermutant buddies just couldn't do for you ending. On the other hand I got bored of 4 and never finished it. It's just kind of there? Seriously the story just ends with one generic slideshow that doesn't represent your choices at all. There's no dumb self sacrifice bit or anything at least.
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Darkrenown posted:How was the ending of 4? Before DLCs 3 had that loving infuriating "It's something YOU have to do" radiation death room that your rad-immune ghoul and supermutant buddies just couldn't do for you ending. On the other hand I got bored of 4 and never finished it. Depends on the faction, but if you side against the Institute the whole 'no we can't harvest all this technology for good, we have to blow it all up' aspect is irritating.
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The ending missions are just you going around destroying all the factions you've become enemies with along the way. It varies by faction but they're all variations on a very big fight followed by a very big explosion, which is then followed by everyone telling you you're the greatest and then a disappointing end-cutscene which only depends on whether you picked male or female and which faction you went with. It's annoying that there's no other options beyond the scorched earth approach, but it's not quite as dumb as FO3. You do get to keep playing afterwards if you really want to, with your selected faction being more obvious (I played Institute, for example, and ended up with a whole bunch more synths hanging around the Commonwealth). Deformed Church fucked around with this message at 18:40 on May 29, 2018 |
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Sinteres posted:Depends on the faction, but if you side against the Institute the whole 'no we can't harvest all this technology for good, we have to blow it all up' aspect is irritating. Also, on the opposite side, "I'm the loving chief of the Institute, let's just give the robots their freedom and leave the Railroad alone" is not on the table either.
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Darkrenown posted:How was the ending of 4? Before DLCs 3 had that loving infuriating "It's something YOU have to do" radiation death room that your rad-immune ghoul and supermutant buddies just couldn't do for you ending. On the other hand I got bored of 4 and never finished it. You get a Deus Ex-style choice of:
It's all really dumb, high-school level sci-fi dystopia. I agree with pretty much everything Rookersh said, but ~more stuff~ wasn't enough to make FO4 better for me. I expected the team to take some pages from NV and incorporate it into their design, but they just updated 3 and balloned it with more nonsense.  Also, Bethesda games used to wow us with the graphics or technical achievements (Morrowinds armor/graphics, Obilvion's forests/physics). I know that era of PC gaming has mostly left us by, but their inability to push any envelope at this point is depressing.
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MussoliniB posted:Anyone give Moonlighter a try? It looks just like Recettear, but pixel graphics instead of anime.  I'm liking it so far, but the focus of the game is much heavier on the Dungeon diving aspect than the shopkeeping.
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Xander77 posted:Ok, by good story and characters, do you mean like an ARPG, or like a proper RPG? Definitely proper RPG. Your party members are very distinct characters (and the game brings everyone along as you adventure, not just your active party) and their discussions and arguments are always pretty interesting. Flaggy posted:Would you recommend this for someone who loved Divinity Original Sin 1 & 2 or is it more in the vein of Pillars Of Eternity and old Black Isle games? It's hard to say because I haven't played either of the Original Sins but it's way more approachable than Pillars of Eternity. The text is more to the point and the combat is leagues better. The story and interactions may not be as deep, but the plot remains very focused on the neat ideas it raises. Honestly I would recommend it to anyone who likes RPGs period, it feels like it falls into a real sweet spot between complex, verbose games and lighter, less technical ones.
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The true battle legale is on: PUBG is suing Fortnite. Edit: Apparently that news is a day old? I'm out of the loop 
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Too Shy Guy posted:Definitely proper RPG. Your party members are very distinct characters (and the game brings everyone along as you adventure, not just your active party) and their discussions and arguments are always pretty interesting. Thanks for that, the reason I was asking is D:OS is a ton of fun and I had a blast playing it, but Pillars and similar ilk I just can't get through anymore.
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May 29, 2018 18:53
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Jagged Jim posted:I'm liking it so far, but the focus of the game is much heavier on the Dungeon diving aspect than the shopkeeping. I'd love to be able to lock on to enemies and circle-strafe around them.
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May 29, 2018 19:00
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GhostDog posted:The true battle legale is on: PUBG is suing Fortnite. How dare they steal from us what we stole from a novel.
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GhostDog posted:The true battle legale is on: PUBG is suing Fortnite. I wonder if it's possible for both sides to lose big on this.
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May 29, 2018 19:05
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Frog Act posted:is the new Deus Ex game with all the DLC worth $8? Yes. edit: The Pallisades Bank level is one of the best designed exploration hubs...really reminded me of the original DX. Exploring that alone is worth the $8, imo.
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Re: the PUBG lawsuit, I would imagine the judge will look at the landmark Atari vs everyone lawsuits and laugh them out of court.
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leaked, wrap it up folks https://twitter.com/RobotBrush/status/1001537677714391041
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Barry Convex posted:leaked, wrap it up folks Just loving lmao if this isn't a clever shop
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Barry Convex posted:leaked, wrap it up folks Terminally Bored posted:I hope it's for a battle royale Fallout. With lootboxes. hahahahaha!
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Barry Convex posted:leaked, wrap it up folks this has to be a fake has to be right
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Soul Glo posted:this has to be a fake  (smh that a blurry off-center photo of a computer monitor still fools people. what's next thread, a blurry photo of a sheet of paper with a "NINTENDO E3 LINEUP CONDIFENTIAL" header?)
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The Kins posted:Well, let's check the replies. shake your head all you want jerkface that poo poo's still believable in today's gaming market 
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