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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What/when was the last actual good return for a player for of Kessel's caliber? seth jones? if you're a pens fan pumping the tires then i guess jimmy carson
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:Do you think an overwhelming return is realistic? What would that look like for you in terms of actual players? Agree that trading away the cap hit to sign someone else is probably not gonna happen I dunno. I'd guess a "good" return would be a top 4 defenseman who doesn't carry an obscene cap hit, and maybe a top 9 LW. High ask though.
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quote:According to Sherring, Alfredsson then told her that his comments were off the record. Sherring used the quotes, explaining that the terms of the interview should be “agreed upon before anything begins.”
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Zodijackylite posted:I'm having trouble figuring out a logical trade partner, but do these returns seem about right? Listen. I know everyone wants Dougie Hamilton to get traded. He's not getting traded.
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Mind_Taker posted:https://twitter.com/tsnhockey/status/1001058871505575936?s=21 Yeouch. But also gently caress melnyk--in fact gently caress the sens (until they get their poo poo together  ).
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Jordan7hm posted:Lol bloggers Sherring is right, though. You can’t just spill embarrassing poo poo then say “off the record.” That’s not how interviews work and it’s not how journalism should work. That said, she might have a hard time getting future interviews. That’s on Alfie, though.
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i am the bird posted:Sherring is right, though. You can’t just spill embarrassing poo poo then say “off the record.” That’s not how interviews work and it’s not how journalism should work. The second part is why her excuse for the first part is dumb. Person A: Tells reporter in person their immediate feelings about their job and boss to explain the situation while subsequently trying not to flare existing drama. Reporter: Prints actual words to create drama. Loses the trust of a lot of sources. Mystified that no one will talk to them anymore. Drama bombers are the worst reporters.
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She's not a reporter she has a blog.
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May 28, 2018 18:48
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Nah man, that's dumb. If you're talking to a reporter, you're talking to a reporter. Alfie trashing the owner is a good story and she's well within her rights to publish it. Alfie has dealt with media for his whole career and should know better. She knows the risks of access but anyone calling her out for this doesn't understand journalism. reporter, blogger, w/e. Don't say poo poo to people interviewing you if you don't want it made public.
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Going off the record is also an agreement, not a declaration. The reporter has to agree to discuss things off the record, and typically it can never be done retroactively.
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i am the bird posted:Nah man, that's dumb. If you're talking to a reporter, you're talking to a reporter. Alfie trashing the owner is a good story and she's well within her rights to publish it. Alfie has dealt with media for his whole career and should know better. If you say so. This isn't a politician we're talking about who answers to the public. It's a person in a private conversation about a private business. All she did was guarantee she won't get them again just so she could get Melnyk at Alfredson's throat in the public eye this one time. Which I don't see helping the Sens since joe blow has been bitching about this topic for a lot longer. Doesn't really add anything and just makes the stupid situation even more stupid with a nice helping of drama.
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dang if its gonna cause all of that then alfie really shouldn't have said it to a reporter
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Stretch Marx posted:If you say so. This isn't a politician we're talking about who answers to the public. It's a person in a private conversation about a private business. This is completely irrelevant. Never say anything off the record unless you state up front this is off the record and the person you are talking to agrees.
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Zodijackylite posted:Thus they're not logical trade partners, but does the exchange seem about right? Carolina's owner might be dumb enough to try to prove something and make the playoffs this year, but those destinations don't make much sense. Of course, it seems like the right place for Kessel right now is Pittsburgh. I think that if your trading a player with a name, you're overpaying. It's not that he's not worth it, it's that you either need your players to even have the cup run you're trading for, or you're not going to win anyways and they're your future. If Pittsburgh ends up being sellers at the deadline he'll be traded, otherwise Pittsburgh needs him.
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ElwoodCuse posted:This is completely irrelevant. Never say anything off the record unless you state up front this is off the record and the person you are talking to agrees. Fine. I still think she's dumb. When you're one of a billion bloggers talking about a given topic (in this case hockey) and you get access to people to talk to them candidly for scoops (thus differentiate yourself from the other people who just fart opinions on twitter and the like) why you would pick the dumbest scoop to run with and then burn the bridge behind you? I mean, whatever. He should have said it at the start and agreed. Now it won't matter since he and probably most of the Sens front office won't talk to her again. That's what I don't understand. Of all the things to pull the "uh uh uhhhhh you didn't say the magic word!" that's the one she went with.
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They're both dumb. I would have leaked it to someone else. Also he doesn't work for the Sens anymore, they fired him.
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It's not a magic word, it's a fundamental principal of journalism. You can't retroactively declare something off the record because you think it will make you look bad.
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Alfie knew what he was doing.
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lets be honest though you could interview hockey guys for years "on the record" and probably not get a soundbite a tenth as interesting as alfie trashing melnyk
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paging CBJ: please list some of the petty poo poo Ohio State has done in regards to the jackets
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iospace posted:paging CBJ: please list some of the petty poo poo Ohio State has done in regards to the jackets Ohio State was somewhat understandably annoyed with an arena going downtown when they'd just poured a shitload of money into building the Schottenstein Center, so it already presented competition for concerts and such. That said, it was basically a lot of politicking and backroom poo poo trying to quash the expansion because god forbid anyone challenge the OSU brand. They'd already killed the Columbus Chill and made sure the Crew were shoved out to the outskirts of town. The Jackets were just another target. Chill Factor is a great read about how the Columbus Chill did their absolute damndest to deal with both the challenges of being a minor league team, and OSU's bullshit. It's really worth a read.
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ElwoodCuse posted:It's not a magic word, it's a fundamental principal of journalism. You can't retroactively declare something off the record because you think it will make you look bad. While that's true, sports journalism isn't journalism, and sports bloggers aren't even sports journalists.
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Did any of you see who wrote it, she was a journalist from like 1986-2016 lol she’s retired
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Habs signed two rando Czech left Dmen https://www.nhl.com/fr/canadiens/news/les-canadiens-sentendent-avec-les-defenseurs-david-sklenicka-et-michal-moravcik/c-298814940 
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My off-season report is that I talked to Rick Nash's In-laws while in line at the airport. Mom in law said she wasn't sure where he was headed. Now I'm stuck in Vegas waiting on a new plane. Go Knights! Oh yeah, she called Crosby "Cindy"... So she sucks in my book. She also got chewed out by a stewardess for I think allegedly swiping extra booze from the cart.
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Krime posted:Oh yeah, she called Crosby "Cindy"... So she sucks in my book. She also got chewed out by a stewardess for I think allegedly swiping extra booze from the cart. Nash to Philly confirmed.
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https://twitter.com/CanucksArmy/status/1001478279377969154 this rules
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I'm glad Nathan Gerbe is getting another shot in the big league
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DJExile posted:I'm glad Nathan Gerbe is getting another shot in the big league Tom Wilson is gonna have to bend over to hit that guy in the head
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Ginette Reno posted:Tom Wilson is gonna have to bend over to hit that guy in the head Flying knee seems more likely imo
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Vegas has 50 mil on the books for next year. Lets assume the cap is 80 mil. Thats 30 mil to spend They need to resign Wild Bill, Miller, and Theodore as RFA. 10 mil combined for all 3 of them? The Ryan/EK combo is 13.5 mil. Lets say Sens eat some of that down to 10 mil. Vegas can than sign Tavares with the rest of that money. Have to let Perron and Neal walk but w/e Tatar-Tavares-Ryan Smith-Wild Bill-Marchessault Tuch-Haula-??? 4th line Theodore-E.K. McNabb-Schmidt Miller-Engelland Fleury Lmao
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:They need to resign Wild Bill, Miller, and Theodore as RFA. 10 mil combined for all 3 of them? At least 15.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Vegas has 50 mil on the books for next year. Lets assume the cap is 80 mil. Thats 30 mil to spend With how Vegas’ story is going, they would sign Tavares, E.K., etc, and then end up missing the playoffs because of Chemistry or voodoo or whatever.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Vegas has 50 mil on the books for next year. Lets assume the cap is 80 mil. Thats 30 mil to spend EK is a free agent, so they don't need to worry about the EK/Ryan package deal.
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iospace posted:EK is a free agent, so they don't need to worry about the EK/Ryan package deal. EK has another year under contract. That deal is almost certainly still on the table.
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iospace posted:EK is a free agent, so they don't need to worry about the EK/Ryan package deal.
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I swore he was. Guess I read "working on a new contract" as "he's a UFA". My bad.
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How about a late first rounder and the hossa contract for a bag of pucks?
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