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Dan Didio posted:I don't think Fallout 4 was loved by most. It sold really well, I'm sure and a lot of people liked it, but it's not really beloved the same way 3 or New Vegas are. 3 was such garbage i can't believe more people 'love' 3 than 4. I'm not saying you're not right, I just can't believe it. If the game is on another engine, who knows if it will even be moddable, so I'm not ready to get all in a huff about that yet.
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Dan Didio posted:I don't think Fallout 4 was loved by most. It sold really well, I'm sure and a lot of people liked it, but it's not really beloved the same way 3 or New Vegas are. ehhh I think a lot more people liked it than you think, to be honest. It depends on the person. For example: I can't stand FO3 & FONV. Playing those two games just pisses me off. I know very well that each of those two games do things better than FO4; just not the things that *I* tend to care about.
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May 31, 2018 16:15
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I've known two different people that have excited told me they absolutely loved Fallout 3 and that it was such a great game and and... and when I mention New Vegas their smile immediately disappears and they're like yeah that one kinda sucked. And yes, already severed.
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May 31, 2018 16:20
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counterfeitsaint posted:I've known two different people that have excited told me they absolutely loved Fallout 3 and that it was such a great game and and... and when I mention New Vegas their smile immediately disappears and they're like yeah that one kinda sucked. East coast best coast!
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May 31, 2018 16:22
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2house2fly posted:Ha, you saw the E3 footage of Fallout 4 and decided to pre-order it? the teaser...
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May 31, 2018 16:31
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Hello I am the contrarian rear end in a top hat who doesn't like New Vegas. Like it wants to have the open world of 3 and the story of the first two, but it just feels lacking when compared indivudally. I usually love the first half when you are looking after Benny and going to New Vegas in a roundabout way through the entire map doing evety sidequest on the way but when the game turns into the faction play I get incredibly bored because I just cannot care about any of these factions. The DLCs are good and I wish the main plot would be the DLC overarching plot.
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May 31, 2018 16:39
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There's no way that leak is right, because there's no way that the creation engine could ever have multiplayer slapped onto it without making the host computer its installed on explode.
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May 31, 2018 16:40
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sector_corrector posted:There's no way that leak is right, because there's no way that the creation engine could ever have multiplayer slapped onto it without making the host computer its installed on explode. Lol Unrelated, I recognize the av. I Killed Yvette?
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May 31, 2018 16:53
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I liked both FO3 and New Vegas, NV is one of my favourite games and FO3 was not as good, but way better than 4 in my opinion. I found 4’s level gated progression system frustratingly bland (want to pick a master lock? gently caress off til you’re level 30 or whatever) making it impossible to specialise your character in any meaningful way, I thought the weapon modding system just meant that actual unique weapons were bland too, while pushing me to become one of those hoarder players who picks up every bloody ashtray I see, which isn’t something I’d normally be interested in.
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May 31, 2018 16:54
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I didn't like the perk system either. Perks are cool when they add quirks and powerful effects to your character, not when they're used for mundane leveling.
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May 31, 2018 16:59
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a few weeks ago I had nothing better to do and ended up watching an almost 2 hour long video on youtube of some guy sperging about how FO3 was better than FONV and he made some good points then I installed Tale of Two Wastelands and have spent more than 100 hours replaying and haven't even made it to Goodsprings yet... too much to do in DC. (FO3 was my first fallout game)
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May 31, 2018 17:03
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Level gating the perks which replaced skills was such an insane decision. I don't like perks being level gated anyway, but at least it didn't matter much when you had skills to build your character with
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May 31, 2018 17:05
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Otacon posted:a few weeks ago I had nothing better to do and ended up watching an almost 2 hour long video on youtube of some guy sperging about how FO3 was better than FONV and he made some good points I'm not watching the video, but MATN's favorite game is New Vegas, so I'm pretty sure he doesn't think 3 is better.
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May 31, 2018 17:06
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2house2fly posted:Level gating the perks which replaced skills was such an insane decision. I don't like perks being level gated anyway, but at least it didn't matter much when you had skills to build your character with I thought for sure they were going to use the challenge system from New Vegas to create a facsimile of the 'learn by doing' system from Skyrim, where by doing things like picking locks or shooting guns you'd earn perks to get better at those things over time, and level-up perks would continue to be powerful bonuses to help shape your character. Nope! 
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May 31, 2018 17:09
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im not going to lie, im going to buy whatever fallout they poo poo out
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May 31, 2018 17:11
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Otacon posted:a few weeks ago I had nothing better to do and ended up watching an almost 2 hour long video on youtube of some guy sperging about how FO3 was better than FONV and he made some good points Have you checked out any of the crazy long critiques by people being critical of FO4? ALL of them are good. Videos anywhere from 45 minutes to 3 hours long of dudes who either HATE Fallout 4 or end up grudgingly liking it, and all of them are speaking from the context of RPG lovers. I binge watched a bunch of these videos when I was trying to figure out the legitimate reasons why people sperg about Fallout so much and why this spergery made them HATE FO4 when I thought it was. . . pretty fun. It helped me put that into context immensely. I recommend watching a few of these for the entertainment value.
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I like Bethesda Fallout games because VATS makes it possible to play a FPS even if you can’t aim for poo poo. Online would make it unlikely to be included so this game probably won’t be for me especially if it’s PVP.Rinkles posted:I'm not watching the video, but MATN's favorite game is New Vegas, so I'm pretty sure he doesn't think 3 is better. He talks about how he likes certain aspects of 3 of better is all.
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May 31, 2018 17:15
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Fallout 76 should let you be able to leave the vault and go full on bandit/BoS/NCR or whatever and help your chosen faction take over or whatever.
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May 31, 2018 17:20
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Our own hbomberguy's video about fallout 3 is the only one you need to watch, imo
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May 31, 2018 17:21
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eonwe posted:im not going to lie, im going to buy whatever fallout they poo poo out same
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May 31, 2018 17:21
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Dan Didio posted:I don't think Fallout 4 was loved by most. It sold really well, I'm sure and a lot of people liked it, but it's not really beloved the same way 3 or New Vegas are. Fallout 3 and 4 are incredibly beloved and New Vegas is mostly forgotten or never played. We post in an echo chamber of New Vegas devotees. Everyone on the outside can't stop professing their love for Nick Valentine, Paladin Danse, John Hancock, and Piper.
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May 31, 2018 17:29
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I thought for sure they were going to use the challenge system from New Vegas to create a facsimile of the 'learn by doing' system from Skyrim, where by doing things like picking locks or shooting guns you'd earn perks to get better at those things over time, and level-up perks would continue to be powerful bonuses to help shape your character. See your mistake was assuming that anyone at Bethesda had played New Vegas or were more than peripherally aware of its existence
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mango sentinel posted:Fallout 3 and 4 are incredibly beloved and New Vegas is mostly forgotten or never played. We post in an echo chamber of New Vegas devotees. Poor Maccready
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May 31, 2018 17:31
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Nah, a lot of people still talk about 3 and New Vegas in particular has taken on a weird memetic quality, even outside of 'gamer' circles. I've seen people who barely play games talking about it on social media and stuff. Fallout 4 really doesn't get talked about in that same way. I bet a lot more people played Fallout 4, but I'd also bet way more of them can't really remember it.
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2house2fly posted:See your mistake was assuming that anyone at Bethesda had played New Vegas or were more than peripherally aware of its existence Too bad they're never given a real role in the main project
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May 31, 2018 17:40
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mango sentinel posted:. More proof that they're wrong, then; Murdertank Curie justifies the automatron dlc by herself.
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May 31, 2018 17:43
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Keeshhound posted:More proof that they're wrong, then; Murdertank Curie justifies the automatron dlc by herself. Here here. Every time I try someone else out I always end up dumping them and going back to Curie. Also pretty nice that she can be gotten as basically the first thing done in the game.
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I want the intro to go like this: it's Reclamation Day. Vault opens as planned. Everything outside is horrible as all your vault people file out and immediately get assaulted by poo poo World they are ill equipped to survive in. You--the rear end in a top hat--turn right back around and seal yourself in--and them out, leaving them to fend for themselves. Which would explain why there's this five-year gap between it supposed to be opened, and it actually being opened. Perhaps the "abandoned" vault is because you literally abandoned them to their fate. Only leaving when you run out of chocolate pudding. I'd love for the Player Character to just be a dick from the beginning with no set positive morality. Does your time stewing alone (or with a small group of ppl who stayed inside with you) change you for better or worse? And will the surviving people you left outside remember your face and hold a grudge? (probably.) Also, wonder if there will be a Left 4 Dead type of group play, where even if you don't have enough players to fill the team, the rest is filled in with some mildly intelligent AI that gets the job done. (this is all assuming it's not what everyone's fearing/complaining that it will be.)
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Poor Maccready Little Lamplighters can't catch a break. eonwe posted:im not going to lie, im going to buy whatever fallout they poo poo out We. We are the problem.
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Paladin posted:I remember Jedi Outcast having a slow mo mode in multiplayer forever ago. How did that work? very much iirc, but I think in multiplayer force speed simply boosted the movement speed and fire speed of the caster? god it's been ages.
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May 31, 2018 18:16
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right. in single player it was slow mo, but in multiplayer it just made you really fast
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HFCS posted:I want the intro to go like this: it's Reclamation Day. Vault opens as planned. Everything outside is horrible as all your vault people file out and immediately get assaulted by poo poo World they are ill equipped to survive in. You--the rear end in a top hat--turn right back around and seal yourself in--and them out, leaving them to fend for themselves. Which would explain why there's this five-year gap between it supposed to be opened, and it actually being opened. Perhaps the "abandoned" vault is because you literally abandoned them to their fate. Only leaving when you run out of chocolate pudding. This is a great idea. Every moral choice you have to make from then on is on a scale of "dickhead" to "rear end in a top hat".
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There's someone in the Brotherhood who questions whether the Enclave's high-end armour will be any defense against... a hollow-point bullet
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AwkwardKnob posted:Hahaha gently caress, I wish man. The funny thing is I did all of these forever ago before all of the DLC had been released. Now a lot of stuff I used mods for is basically just included. If I was doing these on PC I could probably make some utter madness. I'm too afraid to install on PC and start over though, I'd never stop. So I probably shouldn't mention the script extender mod that lets you export a PC settlement to JSON. Or that it interacts with Sim Settlements to create city plan files as mini mods anyone can install, even without script extenders, to have settlers build out the plan as the settlement grows.
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eonwe posted:im not going to lie, im going to buy whatever fallout they poo poo out I said that about Elder Scrolls once, then instead of an Elder Scrolls game it was a loving MMORPG 
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Trustworthy posted:I said that about Elder Scrolls once, then instead of an Elder Scrolls game it was a loving MMORPG Well, did you buy it?
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Trustworthy posted:I said that about Elder Scrolls once, then instead of an Elder Scrolls game it was a loving MMORPG TESO is better than Skyrim lol
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RBA Starblade posted:This is a great idea. Every moral choice you have to make from then on is on a scale of "dickhead" to "rear end in a top hat". Typical goons, forcing me to play an rear end in a top hat instead of a drugged out hippie trying to spread peace around the wasteland.
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I enjoyed FO 1, 2, 3, NV and 4. I'll probably enjoy this one too! I can't wait for the 10th and more info.
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