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I guess they're really just binned and rebadged 8700Ks which would explain why older launch 8700Ks seem to clock better on average than the newer batches. The thing to keep in mind with soldering is that liquid metal delidded CPUs typically run a few degrees cooler than soldered ones.
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Also in Intel news, Optane DIMMs have arrived in a limited basis, branded "Optane DC Persistent Memory". Up to 512gb/module with ECC, only being shipped to "select partners" this year, with wide availability next year (likely with Cascade Lake?) https://www.anandtech.com/show/12828/intel-launches-optane-dimms-up-to-512gb-apache-pass-is-here 
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feedmegin posted:I wonder if they chose that specific price for a reason $386 would have been more fair while still hitting the nostalgia.
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Cygni posted:Also in Intel news, Optane DIMMs have arrived in a limited basis, branded "Optane DC Persistent Memory". Up to 512gb/module with ECC, only being shipped to "select partners" this year, with wide availability next year (likely with Cascade Lake?) I eagerly await on a new set of vulnerabilities where programs are going to be able to read the password that was stored in "persistent memory" last month.
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Space Racist posted:fair free would be the most fair also a kiss included imho
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I didn't know they had announced shipping integrated FPGA's, and I just love the phrasing "This marks the first production release of an Intel® Xeon® processor with a coherently interfaced FPGA"Volguus posted:I eagerly await on a new set of vulnerabilities where programs are going to be able to read the password that was stored in "persistent memory" last month.
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Volguus posted:I eagerly await on a new set of vulnerabilities where programs are going to be able to read the password that was stored in "persistent memory" last month. Intel isn't exactly new to this game and I would expect there to be a background routine that overwrites on free asynchronously.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Intel isn't exactly new to this game and I would expect there to be a background routine that overwrites on free asynchronously. But hey, I can't wait to use Optane DIMMs too. To have persistent memory at RAM speeds ... yeah, sign me up.
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Theory: Intel is responsible for RAM and NAND flash price increases to make Optane economically viable.
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PCjr sidecar posted:Theory: Intel is responsible for RAM and NAND flash price increases to make Optane economically viable. Contra: theory requires Intel to be competent.
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These optane dimms are incredibly cool to me. This has been a dream of computer nerds since the beginning of computers. I fear that tiered storage is too entrenched to have the industry change enough to take advantage of it.
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redeyes posted:These optane dimms are incredibly cool to me. This has been a dream of computer nerds since the beginning of computers. I fear that tiered storage is too entrenched to have the industry change enough to take advantage of it.  it’s just another tier
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It's the kind of thing that the OS itself would have to be redesigned. This is my guess anyways, I am not an OS coder.
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Wouldn't it suck in a desktop system, because you'd be giving up a memory channel / dual or quad channel for storage that is < ram speed?
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Wouldn't it suck in a desktop system, because you'd be giving up a memory channel / dual or quad channel for storage that is < ram speed? Most consumer boards are dual channel and have 4 dimm slots.
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PCjr sidecar posted:Theory: Intel is responsible for RAM and NAND flash price increases to make Optane economically viable. Why would Samsung and Toshiba participate in making Optane economically viable?
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WhyteRyce posted:Why would Samsung and Toshiba participate in making Optane economically viable? Yeah, this. Last I looked Samsung was by a very wide margin the biggest NAND flash manufacturer, and Intel-Micron Flash Technologies was on the small side.
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Late night crew computex news: 28 cores @ 5ghz Cinebench score and clock frequency screenshot to prove it: Click me for I am too large to not break tables Avalanche fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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Also mentioned offhandedly - the new HEDT (X299 chipset) and "Coffee Lake-S," thought to be the eight-core CPUs, are supposedly 'end of the year' parts.
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probably two highly binned 14 core HEDT CFL-X (?) dies connected via EMIB and cooled with custom water cooler. i9-7980XE taken to the next level, pointless but impressive numbers regardless. If this is a 14nm++ CPU running at 5 GHz on all cores it pulls at least 800-1000W under load. The i7-8086K is indeed a "limited edition" (50000 will be made, 8086 of them given away through anniversary sweepstakes). Various OC vendors ordered batches of them for delidding so expect the same TIM. They're really factory binned and rebadged 8700Ks. eames fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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Probably unaffordable, too.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Probably unaffordable, too. True, though it doesn't matter as nearly all of them will end up as free review samples in the benchmarking machines of tech youtubers and review sites. e: pictures of the system: https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-dominus-spotted-with-28-core-cascade-lake-x-cpu Cascade Lake-X (LGA3647?), 16-Phase VRM with 6 fans, 1600W PSU, i bet the VRM mosfets have a higher dissipation loss than a overclocked 8700K CPU eames fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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The conduits on the right hand side are pretty clearly part of a phase change apparatus of some kind.
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eames posted:probably two highly binned 14 core HEDT CFL-X (?) dies connected via EMIB and cooled with custom water cooler. Im pretty sure its a monolithic die. The big-core XCC Skylake SP is already 28 cores. King-daddy at the moment is the Platinum 8180M: 28 cores, 56 threads, 2.5 base and 3.8 boost, 205w TDP. Intel already brought the HCC dies to HEDT with the 7980XE... sounds like they are going all in with HEDT by bringing XCC down too. Although I have to imagine this is for marketing/bragging way more than actually moving units. Having to run the coolant through a water cooler is probably past the edge of realistic. e: thats if there are any plans to actually bring the 28 core HEDT to retail in the first place. Could just be a one off goof for all i know. e2: Anandtech disagrees me so i would like to point out again that i dont know poo poo: AT posted:Personally, I feel this new processor is not a higher binned Platinum 8180. Going up from 2.8 GHz base / 3.5 GHz turbo to 5.0 GHz all-core frequency is a big step, assuming the 5.0 GHz value was not an overclock. I would fully expect that this is the point where Intel starts introducing EMIB to CPUs. Cygni fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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If you take away one thing from the whole 1180 launch speculation (node, launch, etc) it should be that the tech media is just making educated guesses like the rest of us. Until they get hands on hardware or briefed by Intel it's all just speculation. I don't see any reason to assume EMIB is in play without some evidence. Occam's Razor says it's probably the same 28CU chip they already have. People tend to underestimate the speed of high-core-count chips, I bet even at 28C most chips are easily capable of 4.4+ GHz all-core if not higher. There's how many plusses on the end of the node name, now? I think 5.0 is almost certainly an overclock, that's not Intel's MO and you'd need sub-ambient cooling without a delid. You can't ship a chip like that to consumers. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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This is just for the VRM  
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Anandtech agrees with Paul that it's probably an OC'd Xeon Platinum. https://www.anandtech.com/show/12907/we-got-a-sneak-peak-on-intels-28core-all-you-need-to-know
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Too bad this is almost guaranteed to find their way to the hands of loud hyperactive youtubers than the likes of AT who can give it a proper investigative analysis.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Implications being? Linus Tech Tips requested not one but two review samples  I wonder if it has anything to do with 32C threadripper, Intel seems to care a lot about having the highest core count available
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Paul MaudDib posted:lmao that would be so insecure I'd err on the side of they're probably 5~ of them in existence and intel only provided them for interviews with press. I can also gather these boards were probably built without any validation\testing with a CPU so this was the first time they POST'ed outside the factory. But you know the rumor mill: if there is a chance that intel was salty about AMDs 32 core we'll year about it very, very soon. incoherent fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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