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Respectfully, we’ve already met this campaign’s Gilmore. And this campaign’s Gilmore. And this campaign’s Gilmore. And this campaign’s Gilmore.
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Ojjeorago posted:Respectfully, we’ve already met this campaign’s Gilmore. I'm going to laugh so hard when next campaign the magic store guy is just a mild mannered accountant and they spend a full episode trying to figure out if there is some hidden quick.
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Jun 12, 2018 20:31
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Xae posted:I'm going to laugh so hard when next campaign the magic store guy is just a mild mannered accountant and they spend a full episode trying to figure out if there is some hidden quick. Now I want Matt to tease a Victor and have it just be a boring mild mannered accountant who was cursed or something. And once they break the curse for him he is anthropomorphised Paint Drying on Wall.
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Jun 13, 2018 00:28
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Hulk Smash! posted:FWIW I'm also a new watcher (as of when C2: E8 was the most recent thing), went through all of C2 and then back to C1 to mitigate the shakes between episodes. I picked up C1 at episode 27 - the last with Orion - and had no trouble picking up the background and characters of C1. I would recommend going to Ep. 28 though since Ep. 27 is just painful to watch as Orion completes his self-destruct. I ended up taking your advice, except kind of the opposite because I like train wrecks a lot, and started at S1E26. I really feel like I got the whole Orion experience: at first I liked him quite a bit, then I liked him a lot and thought people were way too hard on him, then he started grating on my nerves, and then I got to that errand running segment in 27 and I'm glad he's gone. It was a wild ride and exactly the place for me personally to start. Officially hooked. See you all in a week when I'm fully caught up because my lifestyle is pretty primo for binging 5 hour dnd sessions
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Jun 13, 2018 02:12
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Campaign One is ~447 hours long. So have fun marathoning that in a row. That is longer than the entire run of the Simpsons which is ~200 hours.
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Jun 13, 2018 02:29
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TXT BOOTY7 2 47474 posted:I ended up taking your advice, except kind of the opposite because I like train wrecks a lot, and started at S1E26. I really feel like I got the whole Orion experience: at first I liked him quite a bit, then I liked him a lot and thought people were way too hard on him, then he started grating on my nerves, and then I got to that errand running segment in 27 and I'm glad he's gone. It was a wild ride and exactly the place for me personally to start. Now imagine that entire experience spread out across 25 episodes and just hating his loving guts for like 16 straight hours. Anyway, glad you enjoyed that experience and welcome to the party.
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Jun 13, 2018 02:33
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CuwiKhons posted:Now imagine that entire experience spread out across 25 episodes and just hating his loving guts for like 16 straight hours. So I watched that episode 27 and the slow descent and 5 stages of grief Travis goes through is amazing to watch. Hes the guy who seems relentlessly happy and positive and is the cast member I most want to hang out with and goddamn does he go down a pit in episode 27.
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Jun 13, 2018 03:37
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kingcom posted:So I watched that episode 27 and the slow descent and 5 stages of grief Travis goes through is amazing to watch. Hes the guy who seems relentlessly happy and positive and is the cast member I most want to hang out with and goddamn does he go down a pit in episode 27. If looks could kill Orion would have been incinerated on the spot for that entire "half-chub" bit.
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Jun 13, 2018 03:44
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Blockhouse posted:If looks could kill Orion would have been incinerated on the spot for that entire "half-chub" bit. Travis whispering 'I'm gonna loving kill him' was a good indicator of his feelings towards him too imo. EDIT: As someone who has been in Travis' shoes a dozen times or more, holy poo poo is it nice to see that being a universal reaction even for noted good sport Travis Willing to Ham.
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Jun 13, 2018 03:49
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You can really tell how loving over Orion Travis was with that. His reaction to Orion making a sexual comment to Laura stands in sharp contrast to how thrilled he later was about Perc'ahlia and him saying happily at conventions that he got to watch Taliesin flirt with his wife and "it was great!"
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Jun 13, 2018 03:53
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CuwiKhons posted:You can really tell how loving over Orion Travis was with that. His reaction to Orion making a sexual comment to Laura stands in sharp contrast to how thrilled he later was about Perc'ahlia and him saying happily at conventions that he got to watch Taliesin flirt with his wife and "it was great!" I think it's also because the in-character relationship was just that: characters. They were friends making their OCs kiss. Orion ended up coming off as real life pervy.
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Jun 13, 2018 04:50
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chitoryu12 posted:I think it's also because the in-character relationship was just that: characters. They were friends making their OCs kiss. Orion ended up coming off as real life pervy. Orion was trying to make it in character - he was talking about how Tiberius had a 'half-chub', not himself. But it was inappropriate, out of character for Tiberius, and it wasn't even funny like most of Scanlan's sex jokes. Orion really lacked the ability to read a room.
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Jun 13, 2018 04:59
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I've started watching this while playing Pillars of Eternity 2 and it's going to be very weird because almost every party member in that game is voiced by someone who's in this
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Jun 13, 2018 06:45
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Ashley Johnson has a distinctive way of saying, "okay, okay, okay, okay," that she does a lot on stream. She also apparently used that for ger character in PoE as well. So you'll likely hear it constantly if you use that character, which I'm sure will be fun.
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Jun 13, 2018 12:36
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Sadly using Ashley's character (as cool as said character is) means using someone who has zero interactivity with the world, quests, and other party members in a game where so much of it is based around that interactivity.
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Jun 13, 2018 12:50
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DoubleDonut posted:I've started watching this while playing Pillars of Eternity 2 and it's going to be very weird because almost every party member in that game is voiced by someone who's in this Do it while using the Vox Machina party members for extra confusion.
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Jun 13, 2018 14:00
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I've been playing Deadfire with the normal party members but I gave my own character Percy's voice since Taliesin's the only one who isn't voicing a party member anyway. In the first PoE game, I played as very benevolent because I can't stand being mean to pixels, but just having Percy's voice has made me lean towards more snarky options. Just feels in character. He's such a dickhead.
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Jun 13, 2018 14:24
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TXT BOOTY7 2 47474 posted:I ended up taking your advice, except kind of the opposite because I like train wrecks a lot, and started at S1E26. I really feel like I got the whole Orion experience: at first I liked him quite a bit, then I liked him a lot and thought people were way too hard on him, then he started grating on my nerves, and then I got to that errand running segment in 27 and I'm glad he's gone. It was a wild ride and exactly the place for me personally to start. That is largely how watching Eps 1-28 goes. It starts with "man, why did everyone rag on Orion so much?" And by the end of ep28 I was done with his poo poo.
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Jun 13, 2018 14:52
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I just did another playthrough of Fallout 4 and having Matt follow me around was a trip as well.Xae posted:That is largely how watching Eps 1-28 goes. It starts with "man, why did everyone rag on Orion so much?" And by the end of ep28 I was done with his poo poo. I started watching campaign 1 when they were on episode 8 and liked Tiberius. Watching the drama play out in real time week to week was very sad to see. Then, later on, when all the context came out, it was just even more sad. Such a shame that it all happened. Dameius fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Jun 13, 2018 |
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Jun 13, 2018 14:54
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kingcom posted:Travis Willing to Ham.  Look what you did. I was already really warming up to Travis as I make my way through CR1. I'm on ... Ep 38. Scanlan just met his daughter.
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Jun 13, 2018 15:05
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The entire Critical Role cast (minus Orion) are just the best people, but Travis is extra best. https://clips.twitch.tv/BoringStupidMarjoramNotATK?tt_medium=clips_api&tt_content=url
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Jun 13, 2018 15:11
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Travis is hands down the best. Except for the Cowboys part. But not everyone can be perfect.
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Dameius posted:Travis is hands down the best. Except for the Cowboys part. But not everyone can be perfect. I love when Sam fucks with him over being a Cowboys fan. This is probably my favorite Travis out-of-character reaction. https://youtu.be/zr2n1fLVasU?t=10970
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I'm on s1 e15 now. He doesn't seem too bad yet. But I can see people kind of being short with him as the campaign progresses. And also I'm only listening so I can't see the reactions. Also his turns take forever and I feel like he fudges his sorcery points and tries to power game. I'm excited for him to be gone.
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Jun 13, 2018 18:49
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RC Cola posted:I'm on s1 e15 now. He doesn't seem too bad yet. But I can see people kind of being short with him as the campaign progresses. And also I'm only listening so I can't see the reactions. Also his turns take forever and I feel like he fudges his sorcery points and tries to power game. I'm excited for him to be gone. There’s some suspicion that he may have been cheating, as people started looking a lot closer at his dice as the campaign went on.
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I think the K'varn fight represented the first big indication that Orion's days were numbered. For Orion to sit out the fight was bad enough but to then claim the kill as well was just doubly obnoxious. I would have loved to have seen Tiberius get triple mind blasted and killed because it would have been so deserved.chitoryu12 posted:There’s some suspicion that he may have been cheating, as people started looking a lot closer at his dice as the campaign went on. Matt actually confirmed that Orion was cheating in an off-the-cuff reddit post that he subsequently deleted. I can't remember exactly what he said it but it was something flippant like "the only one who was fudging their rolls is gone now". This is to say nothing of Orion's metagaming and general munchkinry. In It For The Tank fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Jun 13, 2018 |
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In It For The Tank posted:I think the K'varn fight represented the first big indication that Orion's days were numbered. For Orion to sit out the fight was bad enough but to then claim the kill as well was just doubly obnoxious. I would have loved to have seen Tiberius get triple mind blasted and killed because it would have been so deserved. Yeah, he survived purely on DM's mercy there. loving laffo at using minor illusion to fool a goddamn hivemind of telepaths that you were one of them.
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In It For The Tank posted:Matt actually confirmed that Orion was cheating in an off-the-cuff reddit post that he subsequently deleted. I can't remember exactly what he said it but it was something flippant like "the only one who was fudging their rolls is gone now". This is to say nothing of Orion's metagaming and general munchkinry. I don't remember where I read it, but someone wrote that on a pre-stream game Matt once got so tired of Orion's metagaming that he made him leave the session.
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chitoryu12 posted:I don't remember where I read it, but someone wrote that on a pre-stream game Matt once got so tired of Orion's metagaming that he made him leave the session. Wow, I hadn't heard that. I had always assumed that Orion's biggest problem was the transition to streaming. I figured his friends could deal with him in smaller doses when they only saw him for the game every couple of months but dealing with him every single week made them realize what a cockbite he was.
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CuwiKhons posted:Wow, I hadn't heard that. I had always assumed that Orion's biggest problem was the transition to streaming. I figured his friends could deal with him in smaller doses when they only saw him for the game every couple of months but dealing with him every single week made them realize what a cockbite he was. Yeah that what I assumed too from peoples descriptions. The thing about tabletop rpgs with friends is that you all are basically locked in a room together and forced to work together and share time and opinions with eachother. For some you click really well, for others all the things that make you frustrated about them become magnified and you learn how they work with others.
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CuwiKhons posted:I figured his friends could deal with him in smaller doses when they only saw him for the game every couple of months but dealing with him every single week made them realize what a cockbite he was. That's what I thought as well. You can even see in the vid where they're falling in Allura's tower how he just casts fly on himself and leaves and does nothing else to help. How did he stick around that long.
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He was also threatening to sue fan artists on Twitter because Tiberius is his original character do not steal.
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And there's that one mysterious Twitter account that started insulting the Critical Role cast after his side project with Tiberius got legally blocked and Orion would block anyone who said it was obviously him.
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Jun 14, 2018 02:23
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Not to excuse his behavior but he was also going through some big abusive relationship where he was getting gaslighted a lot and he was dealing with an AIDs (I think, or maybe HIV? It was something really serious) diagnosis. Dude was just going through a full meltdown that included a drug addiction and in the process throughly and completely burned all of the bridges he had with his friends and they had to cut him out of their lives. Like I said, just really sad all around.
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That may be the case but the Youtube video of him apologizing for everything and explaining his drug breakdown and his struggle with HIV was posted before he created a sockpuppet Twitter to harass the cast and also before he stole money from one of his own chat mods. So I don't think he's really gotten any better.
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Yeah, his situation excuses his behavior right up to the point years later where he admits to it. Anything he does after that is entirely on him.
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Yeah, I am not trying to whitewash any of it. Dude had a real rough go of things when they first went on stream, but at some point he has start answering for his actions. And if giant human Teddy Bear Matt Mercer has run out of patience and good will towards you, you've had more than plenty enough chances to sort your life out.
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Dameius posted:Yeah, I am not trying to whitewash any of it. Dude had a real rough go of things when they first went on stream, but at some point he has start answering for his actions. And if giant human Teddy Bear Matt Mercer has run out of patience and good will towards you, you've had more than plenty enough chances to sort your life out. I'd say it's when Travis and Marisha start showing signs of annoyance. Matt is a tough and honest DM even with his friends, but Travis is basically impossible to upset and Marisha was one of Orion's closer friends judging from their sheer amount of physical contact during the first campaign. Once they start having problems, you've hosed up.
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Blockhouse posted:Sadly using Ashley's character (as cool as said character is) means using someone who has zero interactivity with the world, quests, and other party members in a game where so much of it is based around that interactivity. Yeah, it's a tough break because the side characters you can recruit seem pretty interesting in the bit of characterization they get before they join the party, but taking any of them means you miss out on just piles of possible dialogue, quest interactions, and inter-party moments. On the upside, you never have to worry about Serafen freaking out because you bought a slave that you totally intend to free, but no it's not until you kill every slaver on the planet that he realizes hey, this guy's anti-slavery after all I guess I won't abandon him immediately. That was a fun couple hours of cruising through saves and stuff to make sure I wasn't losing a party member after completing the quest the way I wanted to. They are a step-up from the general "recruit an npc" situation, though if you want to technically cruise around with the full Vox Machina experience that's how you gotta do it. I'm considering making my player character have Gilmore's voice so I can run around with myself, Eder, Aloth, and a recruited NPC set to also be Gilmore's voice and just enjoying a party of Mercers saving the world, though I think a 3/4 Mercer ratio would probably be plenty.
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Got a bit sidelined last week (and this week); finally sat down and listened to episode 21. Good times - venom troll's a monster I might have to use in the future - but I've gotta say I have no idea what Beau was thinking with that altercation with Caleb. Dude's concerns were clear and reasonable, Molly calling Caleb a poor communicator after the fact puzzled me even more. Beau, Jester, and he might've disliked Caleb's plan, and cool, that's something to talk about, but Caleb seemed pretty open, honest, and forthright about what he was thinking and what he wanted. EDIT: Did some poking around and I've found a few arguments for Caleb's methods being off (spending the night within spitting distance of a sunken dungeon filled with murderous merfolk; could've been a bit more explicit about the item's power first, then introduced his concerns; should've brought Jester in first since she's the one who'd need to cast the spell), but I'm still not finding much to convince me that Beau's handling of the situation was anything other than poor. DOUBLE EDIT: Ignoring the ~narrative~ for a second, I did forget how long the episode went on for, and I know (as guest character) Cali kinda needed her subplot wrapped up that session, so I get that functionally there was a need to take care of everything relatively quickly, but even so. Hmm. I suppose I'll wait and see how they address this incident in episode 22. Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jun 14, 2018 |
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