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MeatwadIsGod posted:I'm going to be Johnny Sasaki so help me god you have a augmented cyber anus that turns your poo poo into idk, acid. DancingShade posted:Mount your brain in a full body chassis without a realistic dermal layer. actually people are already mad about the whole "to see if your body is pure(non agumented) reason for nudity and how "human" you are. so it sounds like if you aug up to much, you become a t-800 psychopath. https://twitter.com/queer_queenie/status/1007755654142939138 https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/1008181220717428736 basicaly only chuds and dumb fringe weirdos think this game is bad. i am happy.
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Ligament posted:cant wait 2 lose my humanity i don't know how many augmentents i will go for. maybe an eye/eyes and some torso protection. maybe i will go for adam jensen.
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DancingShade posted:I forget which source book that was in but CP2020 has exactly that. There was a full body cyborg for fire fighting too, among other things.   (it's in Chromebook 2, one page away from the dude that looks exactly like a Boomer from Bubblegum Crisis) E: It's worth talking about how weird and kinda silly the humanity system in the original RPG was, too. One of your main character stats is empathy, and all the stats (int, str, etc) go from 1-10 with 10 being human maximum. Multiply EMP by 10 to get your humanity, then every bit of metal you get implated shaves that number down. If it drops below 0 you've gone irretrievable insane and probably start harvesting human skin or eating people or something. Note for instance that the full robot body above is 19d6 humanity loss -- so the most empathetic, kindest gentlest human ever to exist has a non-zero chance of going completely bugfuck after getting that sweet new body. The main interesting this thing caused (from a mechanical perspective) was that the players who wanted to be the most badass cyborgs had to roll up characters who were theoretically extremely nice, caring souls in their youths just so they could afford the cost of chroming themselves out and riding the edge of cyber-psychosis. I assume CDPR will handle it with a bit more nuance. E2: oh god I forgot that this is the sourcebook with the furry conversions. NmareBfly fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Jun 17, 2018 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:actually people are already mad about the whole "to see if your body is pure(non agumented) reason for nudity and how "human" you are. so it sounds like if you aug up to much, you become a t-800 psychopath. Erika fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Jun 17, 2018 |
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Little Bitch Man posted:wtf do these degenerates think the cyberpunk genre is? just cool hacker poo poo? They think cyberpunk is about hacking the attention economy by spewing out hot takes to make that retweet counter go up up UP and they are not wrong.
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Jun 17, 2018 05:59
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Little Bitch Man posted:wtf do these degenerates think the cyberpunk genre is? just cool hacker poo poo? He seems to be upset about the sexualized violence inherent to the described scene, and he goes on to recommend some cyberpunk writing by women/queer writers: https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/1006824856837648384 Anyone read any of these? These any good? I've actually read very little cyberpunk because I think most of the writing in the genre is dire (Gibson is terrible).
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Wicked Them Beats posted:He seems to be upset about the sexualized violence inherent to the described scene, and he goes on to recommend some cyberpunk writing by women/queer writers: He doesn’t like cdpr period but yeah pretty much. I mostly read nonfiction and that’s grimdark enough. I am sure some of those are alright. Where can I find the cyberpunk source books or at least a good collection of lore. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jun 17, 2018 |
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Jun 17, 2018 06:11
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Senjuro posted:Play Doom 2016 and try to imagine having to slow down and restrict your field of view every time you fire. gently caress iron sights, they're nothing but a hindrance. Ah yes, Doom 2016, the other stat-based first person RPG.  Taintrunner posted:Iron sights are cool and I hope this has them. My man
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Jun 17, 2018 06:44
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I think this game is going to be good and worth purchasing
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Jun 17, 2018 07:10
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I don't care if the game has ironsights or not, but it better not make me use them when I have a robocop aimbotting laser brain.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Where can I find the cyberpunk source books or at least a good collection of lore. https://talsorianstore.com/collections/cyberpunk Straight from the source.
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some tweet posted:and if you seriously think the sanctimony of the human body is one of the main themes of cyberpunk? you don't know poo poo about the genre That's what those toxic people are mad about? I've played CP2020 briefly ages ago but I remember that being pretty much the case. Some additional romance info: V has any sexual orientation you want, but other characters have a preset hetero/homo/bi one. Additionally it looks like other people attraction to you depends on additional stuff. It would be funny if one of romances could be pursued only if you look like Marilyn Monroe with a monster dick with no less than 20 modes of vibration .
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I was more familiar with earlier 2020 and I guess I never got around to Firestorm and beyond. I got curious after rereading the descriptions of the city areas from the E3 flier, and noticing some major discrepancies. The big one is that Pacifica's called the poorest, most dangerous gang-ridden area. Back in 2020 it was... well, an upscale residential beachfront suburb of Night City.  I mean, a lot can happen in over half a century, particularly in a cyberpunk world, but I still wanted some clue how they got from point A to point B. So I found out the lead-in to Cyberpunk 3.0 involved a nuke going off in the city center of Night City. I guess that'd do the trick for some dramatic reconfiguration. Still, 3.0 seems like it hasn't been particularly well-loved, and CDPR appears to be taking its cues more from 2020, so I dunno how much of that's going to be canon for 2077. Does leave me even more interested in finding out the history of the intervening years. At the very least, there's some interesting set-piece opportunities in the area.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that 2077 is just a straight up soft reboot of the setting.
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communism bitch posted:I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that 2077 is just a straight up soft reboot of the setting. Has to be. It's 2020 with a modern refresh. If there was any Cybergeneration in there it would start getting weird fast with all that out of control self aware nanotechnology that may or may not grey goo you. Best to leave that book on the shelf.
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KakerMix posted:Ah yes, Doom 2016, the other stat-based first person RPG. What does having or not having stats have to do with whether iron sights are a benefit or a nuisance?
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Senjuro posted:What does having or not having stats have to do with whether iron sights are a benefit or a nuisance? RPG stats often improve combat ability - a system at odds with the skill based combat that iron sights promote, or the fast paced twitch combat of Doom. It doesn't necessarily follow that RPG stats means no iron sights, but it seems likely that accuracy and damage will be affected by things other than a player's ability to aim which means iron sights may not make sense. Snackula posted:I unironically hope this game has some sort of VATS equivalent. Edit: That would be great vvv
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KakerMix posted:Ah yes, Doom 2016, the other stat-based first person RPG. I unironically hope this game has some sort of VATS equivalent.
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DancingShade posted:Has to be. It's 2020 with a modern refresh. The last 2020 book ended with Night City getting nuked, so I think it's safe to assume Edit: Oh yeah and they also broke the internet so hard that humanity became a tribal Post-Truth society who barely know what year it it by the mid 2030's Shoehead fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Jun 17, 2018 |
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Jun 17, 2018 11:28
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Shoehead posted:The last 2020 book ended with Night City getting nuked, so I think it's safe to assume In 3.0 they rebuilt Night City using nanomachines which they then lost control of sometime during the 4th corporate war. They never stopped building more Night City. Occasionally collapsing old buildings for materials to make the new, seemingly at random. The city slowly creeps all directions on land with no sign of stopping. While cool as a concept I think that sort of procedural city is perhaps bit of an unnecessary technical hurdle.
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Can't wait for more of this SJW-type outrage, whenever more footage will be released. At this point, it feels like they're just grasping straws around a popular topic, just to get some exposure. Also, that complaint about CDPR not knowing cyberpunk is kind of silly, considering that Pondsmith persona seems to be actively involved.
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And Pondsmith only let them do it because he decided they knew almost as much about the setting as him and were genuinely fans.
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CDPR like big tiddies, which is fine, but it's also hilarious for anyone to take their pseudo-sage bullshit about exploring the human condition as the excuse at face value. It's also weird how people who get worked up about this still don't use the term fridging correctly. ufarn fucked around with this message at 12:26 on Jun 17, 2018 |
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Jun 17, 2018 12:23
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Combat Pretzel posted:Can't wait for more of this SJW-type outrage, whenever more footage will be released. What the gently caress.
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We're also guesstimating first half of 2020 as a release date. There were comments of "we're still not sure how big the game will be, but assume bigger than W3" may mean the story and quests are still being worked on. I hope CDPR will release the same play through with different choices picked for variety.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Can't wait for more of this SJW-type outrage, whenever more footage will be released. At this point, it feels like they're just grasping straws around a popular topic, just to get some exposure. Also, that complaint about CDPR not knowing cyberpunk is kind of silly, considering that Pondsmith persona seems to be actively involved. I dunno, dude, it seems to me like CDPR fans are getting incredibly defensive for what amounts to a few people on Twitter proposing an interpretation of that developer's words that is maybe not very charitable but certainly understandable. See it from the POV of someone who has a prosthetic arm, maybe one of those recent fancy ones, and has to hear about how their body has been desacrated and maybe they're not the same person anymore. Is it unique to Cyberpunk 2077? Not by a long shot, but it doesn't mean the element is not worthy of examination. By the way, when people talk about the core of Cyberpunk, they're talking about the genre, not Pondsmith's PnP RPG. I'm guessing most of this is down to the CDPR developer that was giving the presentation just not being very good at presenting the concept, though.
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Witcher 2 had a few homophobic elements (Detmold springs to mind) but I can't think of anything in the Witcher 3 that upset my socially progressive sensibilities.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:By the way, when people talk about the core of Cyberpunk, they're talking about the genre, not Pondsmith's PnP RPG. Can you really say they don't understand the genre when they're working closely with its key architect to ensure it adheres to it? Sure, someone doesn't understand the genre, but I'm not sure it's CDPR.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I dunno, dude, it seems to me like CDPR fans are getting incredibly defensive for what amounts to a few people on Twitter proposing an interpretation of that developer's words that is maybe not very charitable but certainly understandable. The people who got quoted here are rather big in the, uh, woke Twitter. Like, one of them is the guy who wrote most of Anita Sarkeesian's videos and he's a) been grinding his axe against CDPR (and, well, anything else that will bait some nerds) for a while now b) has a huge-rear end Patreon c) gets mentioned in gaming media all the time. The poo poo he's slinging has some impact. That said, I'd personally just call on a ban of "hey look at these lovely tweets" in this thread.
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Megazver posted:The people who got quoted here are rather big in the, uh, woke Twitter. Like, one of them is the guy who wrote most of Anita Sarkeesian's videos and he's a) been grinding his axe against CDPR (and, well, anything else that will bait some nerds) for a while now b) has a huge-rear end Patreon c) gets mentioned in gaming media all the time. The poo poo he's slinging has some impact. I don't think $4500 a month qualifies as a huge-rear end Patreon. also lol at anybody taking mcintosh seriously
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PerilPastry posted:Witcher 2 had a few homophobic elements (Detmold springs to mind) but I can't think of anything in the Witcher 3 that upset my socially progressive sensibilities. Sorceresses being incredibly powerful but being reliant on (male) kings, therefore using magic to enhance their appearance, as an excuse to show cleavage and pornstar makeup was pretty silly. But other than that W3 had some of the best female characters in like, forever. That tweeted quote seemed more like a concept presented a bit badly by someone with English not as their first language.
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Megazver posted:The people who got quoted here are rather big in the, uh, woke Twitter. Like, one of them is the guy who wrote most of Anita Sarkeesian's videos and he's a) been grinding his axe against CDPR (and, well, anything else that will bait some nerds) for a while now b) has a huge-rear end Patreon c) gets mentioned in gaming media all the time. The poo poo he's slinging has some impact. I mean, I've seen McIntosh mocked by multiple times by people on the same political side, and it's pretty obvious that Feminist Frequency wants to distance itself from him as much as possible. The other person who's quoted is literally an 18 year old trans girl. The idea that I should be indignant that a marginalized teenager is angry on Twitter is very, very weird to me.
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:Sorceresses being incredibly powerful but being reliant on (male) kings, therefore using magic to enhance their appearance, as an excuse to show cleavage and pornstar makeup was pretty silly. But other than that W3 had some of the best female characters in like, forever. Like you wouldn't make yourself look better with magic if you could
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:Sorceresses being incredibly powerful but being reliant on (male) kings, therefore using magic to enhance their appearance, as an excuse to show cleavage and pornstar makeup was pretty silly. But other than that W3 had some of the best female characters in like, forever. Putting aside whether or not that’s endorsing or just depicting sexism, that’s 100% from the books so there was only so much CDPR could do about it. From a human psychology perspective, there’s probably some of this too: Andrast posted:Like you wouldn't make yourself look better with magic if you could Especially as, in lore, only “ugly” women were allowed to undergo sorceress training. The books tend into what can probably be fairly read as outright misogyny in parts, with some of the sorceress stuff.
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Andrast posted:Like you wouldn't make yourself look better with magic if you could No, I would spend all my mana on a double-dick.  But that begs the question why the standards of beauty of the Witcher universe almost exactly match those of the 21st century real world. I guess you could argue that using any other standards of beauty wouldn't convey their beauty to the actual audience, since there is an in-universe reason for this.CottonWolf posted:Putting aside whether or not that's endorsing or just depicting sexism, that's 100% from the books so there was only so much CDPR could do about it. Oh, I definitely think it's meant as a depiction of sexism. I just think it goes a little overboard into becoming an excuse, much like in Game of Thrones. But yeah, they probably would have gotten a lot of poo poo from fans if they had changed that. But imo it would make more sense for a least some sorceresses to make themselves more ugly, or plain-looking. That way they could blend in and people would tend to underestimate their power. Presumably they could enchant any man to want them, or maybe that's what their appearance actually is, in everyone else's head. Anyway, I'm a little intimidated by 2077 if it ends up being as large, or larger, than Witcher 3. I've spent little over 200 hours in that game and I'm still not completely done with the last expansion.
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Arglebargle III posted:There's a p. popular fan theory that in Witcher 2 Triss was trying to get you to collect components for a powerful love potion under false pretenses. Given that Triss is a creepy stalker who conveniently never mentions Geralt’s long term girlfriend (and her friend) after he loses his memory, that is 100% in character. Plus you get magic resistance if you don’t have sex with her at the baths in W2, so...
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From what i remember of the books, the sorceresses were all hideously ugly because noble houses didn't know what else to do with them because they had no chance of marrying them off. So they shipped them off to wizard school.
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