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Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Is there going to be another balance patch with the dlc?

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Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

I don't know man is the sun hot

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
Supposedly we're getting version 2.0 around the time the first DLC hits.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
There's still some cool weapons and spells in the game and the DLC might well introduce more, so they've still got a lot of patching to do

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


Really hoping they put that huge threading fix FPS boost in 2.0

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


This Shadows Under Neketaka boss fight is loving stupid. My metaphysics genius Aloth isn't allowed to look at the wards for me to bypass the fight and even though smashing the boss himself is easy the potd bonuses make protecting the wards during the fight impossible as far as I can tell, even when splitting everyone up to trigger all the shields and casting healing spells on them. There's also no practical way to tell how damaged they are during the fight.

Ratios and Tendency fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Jul 17, 2018

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
go get the animancy cat, huff some incense, and bring aloth with you

Scorchy
Jul 15, 2006

Smug Statement: Elementary, my dear meatbag.
Someone can correct me, but you don't need to save the wards during the fight, they just buff you against the dragon's attacks.

adamarama
Mar 20, 2009
Late to the party but finished the game on veteran with scaling. It was a good challenge for me, at least on bosses. There is still one fight I can't beat - the fampyr cave for sanza's exploration quest. All my party have protection from int affliction and I still get chain charmed. Are they bugged? I cleared splintered reef no problem.

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Scorchy posted:

Someone can correct me, but you don't need to save the wards during the fight, they just buff you against the dragon's attacks.

I've read that you're supposed to be able to split his soul without the metaphysics check if you beat him up first, which I'm not getting. I figured it might have something to do with the wards since they don't make much gameplay sense otherwise.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

adamarama posted:

Late to the party but finished the game on veteran with scaling. It was a good challenge for me, at least on bosses. There is still one fight I can't beat - the fampyr cave for sanza's exploration quest. All my party have protection from int affliction and I still get chain charmed. Are they bugged? I cleared splintered reef no problem.

I think you can name that location soon as you leave it. That should finish it for the mapping quest I thought.

fuckpot
May 20, 2007

Lurking beneath the water
The future Immortal awaits

Team Anasta

adamarama posted:

Late to the party but finished the game on veteran with scaling. It was a good challenge for me, at least on bosses. There is still one fight I can't beat - the fampyr cave for sanza's exploration quest. All my party have protection from int affliction and I still get chain charmed. Are they bugged? I cleared splintered reef no problem.

When you say protection do you mean resistance of immunity? If the former make lots of captain's banquets which give you immunity and it makes it a whole lot easier. Buy every oyster and luminous lobster you come across.

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




Ratios and Tendency posted:

I've read that you're supposed to be able to split his soul without the metaphysics check if you beat him up first, which I'm not getting. I figured it might have something to do with the wards since they don't make much gameplay sense otherwise.

I did this. Strengthened one ward, he got annoyed and I was like hang on buddy, give me a moment, then I strengthened another ward and he was like that's it I'll do you for that mate, then I bashed him and he gave up and was like fine whatever and I was able to split his soul.

Octo1
May 7, 2009

fuckpot posted:

When you say protection do you mean resistance of immunity? If the former make lots of captain's banquets which give you immunity and it makes it a whole lot easier. Buy every oyster and luminous lobster you come across.

Is there a reason no one ever mentions Wael's Wind? It gives immunity to mind afflictions and is relatively cheap/common.

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014

level 15 disillusionist

Heithinn Grasida posted:

One interesting facet of this game’s design is that mechanics are so complicated and explanations are often so vague, misleading or flat out incorrect that unless you spend a lot of time reading and crunching numbers, you’re often better off just going with what you think is cooler. Even on PotD, most of the time that will work out, though you’ll obviously have a rougher time of it than if you do everything super min-maxed.
I mean, with Graze-to-Hit or other conversion abilities it just comes down to multiplying two percentage values.
But on the other hand I have never planned out a build and actually stuck to it, so, yeah.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Multiplying percentage values is why I play rpgs personally :buddy:

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

IMO there's too many small percentages in this game.

Like +5% critical damage, wow, thrilling.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Finally picked this up and the idea of murdering mages with guns makes me happy. What is a fun build that uses arquebus or pistols? Seems like there is a ton of differing opinions out there.

Heithinn Grasida
Mar 28, 2005

...must attack and fall upon them with a gallant bearing and a fearless heart, and, if possible, vanquish and destroy them, even though they have for armour the shells of a certain fish, that they say are harder than diamonds, and in place of swords wield trenchant blades of Damascus steel...

The 5% hit-to-crit ones really tickle me. It comes up on at best 2.5% of attack rolls and gets worse the more hit-to-crit you have. Or comparing min's fortune to scordeo's edge. I know scordeo's edge is a late game item and is probably a dev's pet item (and it is really cool!), but stacking 2 accuracy per attack is just ridiculous and it has some of the most powerful on-hit effects of any melee weapon in the game on top of that. Two accuracy is worth at least 4 hit-to-crit and reduces the chance of misses and grazes!

adamarama
Mar 20, 2009

fuckpot posted:

When you say protection do you mean resistance of immunity? If the former make lots of captain's banquets which give you immunity and it makes it a whole lot easier. Buy every oyster and luminous lobster you come across.
Yeah, I had everyone with luminous lobster and the paladin chant, which is explicitly for fighting vampires! I also tried waels wind. I'm still getting chain charmed, makes the fight impossible.

adamarama fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Jul 17, 2018

adamarama
Mar 20, 2009
Quote is not edit. My first one!

User0015
Nov 24, 2007

Please don't talk about your sexuality unless it serves the ~narrative~!

adamarama posted:

Yeah, I had everyone with luminous lobster and the paladin chant, which is explicitly for fighting vampires! I also tried waels wind. I'm still getting chain charmed, makes the fight impossible.

They might be casting Arcane Dampener on you as well, which probably removes food buffs like it removes drug buffs for the duration.

You should be able to also Suppress Affliction if you spread out and have a stealthed character ready to counter charm.

Digital Osmosis
Nov 10, 2002

Smile, Citizen! Happiness is Mandatory.

Raged posted:

Finally picked this up and the idea of murdering mages with guns makes me happy. What is a fun build that uses arquebus or pistols? Seems like there is a ton of differing opinions out there.

Yeah, almost every class that isn't a caster can be built well for guns. Some casters too, actually, since Chanters get a gun-reload song (and can shoot and cast simultaneously) and Ciphers benefit from being able to do a fuckton of damage in one hit (since that's how they generate their magic points.) In general, gently caress around with the skill trees and check to see if the skills reference "weapons" or "melee weapons." Off the top of my head Barbarians are pretty much melee only and many monk abilities are melee only.

Ranger is half "stupid accurate at range" and half "has a pet." The pet is a little underpowered on the harder difficulties, so a number of people who play rangers on path of the damned like the "Ghost Heart" subclass who can summon the pet wheneves and doesn't get a penalty if the pet dies during the fight.

Fighter is solid all-around auto-attacker and will be stupid hard to put down. There's nothing bad to say about them, really, aside from being a tiny bit vanilla. Almost all of their abilities are at least solid, many are very good, and they end up being kinda more-than-the-sum-of-their-parts.

Rogue looses some of their squishyness at range, but also has a harder time getting their sneak attack since they can't Always Be Flanking. Still it's easy enough to get other statuses that trigger sneak attack, rogues do probably the highest damage, and their skills are top notch. Seriously, rogue skills are nasty.

Paladin is actually pretty good with guns! Their first level one-resource attack, Flames of Devotion, is a full attack (instead of a "primary attack") which means they fire both guns if you've John Wooed it up and are dual wielding pistols or blunderbusses. Their damage comes from fire bonuses, mostly, and they'll also be really hard to put down due to high defenses. You can take or ignore their support abilities as needed. Bleak Walker is the best gun-paladin subclass because they get bonus damage to Flames of Devotion, which you'll be spamming, but also playing a Bleak Walker kinda locks you into being an rear end in a top hat.

You get a member of your party who's basically an arquebus specialist, she has a unique ranger subclass that gives her better range and reload. She can be a straight ranger, a ranger/rogue, or a ranger/wizard. I'd recommend either of the later two over straight ranger... or you can just ignore her if you wanna be only the gun-nut in the party! (IMO her faction kinda sucks too, although I like her a lot as a character.)

Most of the time if you're planning on being a martial class it's worth it to multiclass. Weapon attacks are less influenced by "power level" than spells are, and you have the flexibility to use the bits of the classes you like and ignore the bits you don't.

tl;dr - I suggest a multiclass of two of the following: fighter, ranger, rogue, chanter, paladin.

Digital Osmosis fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jul 17, 2018

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006
an appreciable fraction of the difficulty in the last fight in the game, for me, was that said gunhaver was doing as she always did

sitting behind a brutal wall of meat and two-shotting casters

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
Small hotfix patch up on beta branch

Build 1.2.2.0031 Updates

The Vendor in Port Maje, unlocked via Berath's Blessings, now sells the following items (if the party does not already own them):
Scavenger's Lantern
Stinky Pete
Cloak of Berath
Sails of Berath
Cutthroat Cosmo
If Maia leaves the party, she will only send 1 letter about her departure.

Retraining now properly restores Level 1 abilities that were upgraded (and replaced) at later levels.

Missing Strings (in Portuguese) have been added to the Mod Manager Interface.

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014

level 15 disillusionist

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

If Maia leaves the party, she will only send 1 letter about her departure.
That was not a bug. It did not need fixing. :colbert:

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Digital Osmosis posted:

tl;dr - I suggest a multiclass of two of the following: fighter, ranger, rogue, chanter, paladin.

Thanks, a lot will give it a shot

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Small hotfix patch up on beta branch

Build 1.2.2.0031 Updates

The Vendor in Port Maje, unlocked via Berath's Blessings, now sells the following items (if the party does not already own them):
Scavenger's Lantern
Stinky Pete
Cloak of Berath
Sails of Berath
Cutthroat Cosmo
If Maia leaves the party, she will only send 1 letter about her departure.

Retraining now properly restores Level 1 abilities that were upgraded (and replaced) at later levels.

Missing Strings (in Portuguese) have been added to the Mod Manager Interface.
Once i figure out how item status effects work i am SO adding enchantments to the Berath Cloak and the pre-order ring so they actually DO something. I think there's a mod for the cloak already but whatever

harrygomm
Oct 19, 2004

can u run n jump?
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harrygomm fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jan 26, 2021

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

harrygomm posted:

still waiting for those scavenger hunt items on the GOG client install

that's what the patch notes directly above are for -- it's so everyone can just buy them from that vendor.

I think there's also a mod on the nexus

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Can I use both Maia and Tekehu even though they hate each other? Will one of them just leave at some point?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

harrygomm posted:

still waiting for those scavenger hunt items on the GOG client install

Did they ever say those were coming, at the time? I don’t recall GOG offering a way to link your account to an outside service for this sort of thing.

Media Bloodbath
Mar 1, 2018

PIVOT TO ETERNAL SUFFERING
:hb:

2house2fly posted:

Once i figure out how item status effects work i am SO adding enchantments to the Berath Cloak and the pre-order ring so they actually DO something. I think there's a mod for the cloak already but whatever

There is a mod for the cloak but there's also the enhanced console or whatever it's called. Which let's you mess with the game on the fly.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Miftan posted:

Can I use both Maia and Tekehu even though they hate each other? Will one of them just leave at some point?

worst case scenario, you just head down to the tavern and build your own replacement!

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Miftan posted:

Can I use both Maia and Tekehu even though they hate each other? Will one of them just leave at some point?

They can be talked into working together in most cases, but there are a few hard points where they won't.

And really those situations are unlikely to come up until you are ready to end the game anyway.

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

Miftan posted:

Can I use both Maia and Tekehu even though they hate each other? Will one of them just leave at some point?

I used both of them pretty much the whole game and neither ever left because of a fight. You get some chances to kind of mediate things so if you gently caress that part up one of them will probably split. The way things went for me they actually came to a begrudging understanding of each other, it was nice.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

worst case scenario, you just head down to the tavern and build your own replacement!

How do you build a watershaper? That foe-only Chill Fog is definitely a thing.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Subjunctive posted:

How do you build a watershaper? That foe-only Chill Fog is definitely a thing.

with limitless regret for the fact you made the wrong choice of who to piss off, and must druid the old fashioned way.

Digital Osmosis
Nov 10, 2002

Smile, Citizen! Happiness is Mandatory.

or by using the unity console mod!

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Mr. Prokosch
Feb 14, 2012

Behold My Magnificence!

Subjunctive posted:

How do you build a watershaper? That foe-only Chill Fog is definitely a thing.

You feed Maia to the Blood Pit and party with your friend Tekehu.

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