|
Anomalous Amalgam posted:I think both of you are doing things true to your meta as town at this point lol. Mush is like this as town, and you claim very easily lol. Who would you up next then? Merk? Arb?
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 20:03
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 27, 2024 20:43 |
|
|
Mr. Humalong posted:I think that Long post was about what info you would give on your next target. I'm perfectly aware I could be role blocked. I've said before I'm going to either be NK'd, roleblocked or Bus driven (I mean that last one is probably not going to happen) As I've said before, not going to give out who I'm watching to anyone.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 20:07
|
|
|
SalTheBard posted:I'm perfectly aware I could be role blocked. I've said before I'm going to either be NK'd, roleblocked or Bus driven (I mean that last one is probably not going to happen) You are insanely hostile and making me regret my inno vote.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 20:08
|
|
|
Mr. Humalong posted:You are insanely hostile and making me regret my inno vote. I didn't think that post was hostile??
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 20:10
|
|
|
I'm really am sorry if it came off hostile. Was not my intent
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 20:17
|
|
|
SalTheBard posted:I'm perfectly aware I could be role blocked. I've said before I'm going to either be NK'd, roleblocked or Bus driven (I mean that last one is probably not going to happen) Someone else already pointed out that there could be a doctor. You're not guaranteed dead just because you claimed at the first bit of pressure. And even if you were, you can still have opinions, the only perspective you know for certain that is coming from someone who's town. If you won't talk about who you'll watch, fine, but then let's hear some reads. Who do you think of the people against you are being sincere in there suspicion, even if they're wrong? Who do you think that's defending you might be doing it for town cred? There are plenty of ways to defend yourself while still generating content. Just rolling over doesn't help you and it doesn't help town. Seriously it is 90 loving degrees in Portland and I am aggro as poo poo, I'm not going to pull punches. Put up or shut up. Dear scum Sal, The pity party defense is old and played out. Get some new tricks.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 20:21
|
|
|
I work in a warehouse I am being cooked alive in here.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 20:23
|
|
|
Mr. Humalong posted:Who would you up next then? Merk? Arb? Why those two? You are asking questions but aren't scum hunting  Maybe you lol Merk maybeee.... Not arb, whatever they did, it wasn't lethal. I'm sure their play will come to light soon enough.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 20:42
|
|
|
I stated it before I left but people were apparently really confused over the obvious typo despite the context it was in. Sal is confirmed lookout, vote innocent. There was no other way he could have known that there was a third visitor or who it was, I can confirm that ArbitraryKash did in fact also visit b- night 1, as dumb as it is that so many people got involved. This doesn't confirm me as town though. Mr. Humalong posted:For reference, Kash/Arb could be any of the following:
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 20:58
|
|
|
Anomalous Amalgam posted:Why those two? You are asking questions but aren't scum hunting I’m scum hunting by asking questions. I gave my reasons for merk and ArbC further up the thread
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 20:59
|
|
|
AA why are you so sure that ArbC is town? You've said it twice now even though others have pointed out there are plenty of roles for him to logically be there that are not town.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:04
|
|
|
and fwiw I don't think it's bad to have a confirmed town lookout at this point even if Sal threw a tantrum over it, yeah we have a BG down but there's still 3 random roles that could either be protection or something that would expose whoever did the hit, plus one other hidden town investigator.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:06
|
|
|
Why is Sal confirmed?
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:11
|
|
|
Because lookout is the only role that would have seen kash (now me) visit b-. He saw that b- was visited by a maf, oldme, and kash, the first two popped up in the flip so it's irrelevant, but the third is information that only he and I would know.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:16
|
|
|
IcePhoenix posted:AA why are you so sure that ArbC is town? You've said it twice now even though others have pointed out there are plenty of roles for him to logically be there that are not town. I'm not sure they are town I was even one of the people to point out what you're stating. They aren't scum. That much is true. They could be non town.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:23
|
|
|
I guess there is a longshot that like Sal is the godfather and I am janitor so as fellow scum he would know I too visited b-minus and my ability just didn't go off because the mafioso got killed by the bodyguard. But I'm also the one who started the push on Sal so take that as you will.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:24
|
|
|
ArbitraryC posted:I guess there is a longshot that like Sal is the godfather and I am janitor so as fellow scum he would know I too visited b-minus and my ability just didn't go off because the mafioso got killed by the bodyguard. You really shouldn't have subbed back in... of course my last game would have a wrench like this thrown into it. Why even float the idea that the role you inherited MIGHT NOT BE TOWN though? *furrows brow*
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:33
|
|
|
Anomalous Amalgam posted:You really shouldn't have subbed back in... of course my last game would have a wrench like this thrown into it. Why even float the idea that the role you inherited MIGHT NOT BE TOWN though? I mean there’s no reason to pretend it’s not possible and if they did someone would probably try to play it as a gotcha.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:35
|
|
|
Again there is literally no possibility that Arb subbing back in gives them insight or an advantage over any other player. All of you endlessly harping on it is bizarre.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:36
|
|
|
Anomalous Amalgam posted:I'm not sure they are town I was even one of the people to point out what you're stating. They aren't scum. That much is true. They could be non town. but a third of these roles are scum? Mr. Humalong posted:For reference, Kash/Arb could be any of the following:
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:36
|
|
|
Yeah it’s like 7/12 town, 4/12 mafia, 1/12 neutral killer. The odds are better that they are town, but not a lot better.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:37
|
|
|
Actually saying they can’t be scum is just weird lol
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:38
|
|
|
IcePhoenix posted:but a third of these roles are scum? Yeah but Hum's list doesn't make sense. Why would scum target scum? Keep in mind Kash and Arb1 targeted B- Kash did something, Arb1 protected B against solus. Kash didn't douse him, he would have received notification, also if he's one of the roles in a block of certain roles that eliminates others being there so your %'s you're basing it on are wonky. Arb2 may be non-town, but it's highly unlikely, HIGHLY, that he is scum. He could be a janitor, forger etc., I just doubt it.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:44
|
|
|
I guess that's my own lapse in judgment, they COULD still be scum, but it's unlikely. Also about him subbing back in even though he was already a player, that's just mostly unheard of that's why I'm kind of thrown by it.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:45
|
|
|
Mr. Humalong posted:Again there is literally no possibility that Arb subbing back in gives them insight or an advantage over any other player. All of you endlessly harping on it is bizarre. Yeah I was actually hesitant when mord brought it up to me on discord but even after trying to think for a bit on possible ways it could be used by me or other players to metagame I came up empty. Mord couldn't bring in the scum that died because they obviously knew the scumlist, but I had no special knowledge beyond what everyone saw in the night flip. It literally changes nothing about the game and it seems weird people are so confused over trying to explain N1 kash's actions. He did or tried to do something to b-minus night 1, I know what it was and what the results were (just like he would if he didn't get subbed out) it's in my record now and if I die you'll just see the will from the perspective of the character, in the same format as the will from the BG I was playing.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:46
|
|
|
ArbitraryC posted:Yeah I was actually hesitant when mord brought it up to me on discord but even after trying to think for a bit on possible ways it could be used by me or other players to metagame I came up empty. Mord couldn't bring in the scum that died because they obviously knew the scumlist, but I had no special knowledge beyond what everyone saw in the night flip. It's more on the possibility of you re-entering the game as scum after having died as town? Or some other non-town role even. It's bad form. I don't think you can game the set up differently, but it does have an impact on reads.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:49
|
|
|
There were no day 1 whispers so even if I came back as scum or arsonist I wouldn't have any info they didn't already have. Day 1 also didn't really have any discussion at all so you can read me all you want from the posts I made today.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 21:54
|
|
|
N1: B- targeted by Arb1, Kashmoney and Solus. Arb1 dies protecting B- against Solus. Solus dies being killed in retaliation by Arb1 Kash does something Arb1 replaces Kashuno becoming Arb2. Role has definitely changed. Alignment?? TBD Hum has defended Arb for not leaning on being town, but is simultaneously trying to undermine my points of suggesting that he's likely not scum? Admittedly, there is a lapse in judgment on my part. Arb2 COULD still be scum. I just find it less likely. I will make a post of roles Kash/Arb2 absolutely cannot be in short order.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:00
|
|
|
Make sure to inno Sal tho, or at least lynch me first. The only way it's possible for Sal to still be scum at this point is if we're both maf. In any situation other than that, the only way he would have known I visited him in addition to the BG is if his lookout claim is honest.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:07
|
|
|
Make sure to inno Sal tho, or at least lynch me first. The only way it's possible for Sal to still be scum at this point is if we're both maf. In any situation other than that, the only way he would have known I visited him in addition to the BG is if his lookout claim is honest. Maf edit: by "him" there I mean b-
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:08
|
|
|
ArbitraryC posted:Make sure to inno Sal tho, or at least lynch me first. The only way it's possible for Sal to still be scum at this point is if we're both maf. In any situation other than that, the only way he would have known I visited him in addition to the BG is if his lookout claim is honest. I've already sent in my PM to mord that Sal is innocent. There's no way Sal bungles up a D2 claim with little to no pressure as scum.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:12
|
|
|
ArbitraryC posted:Make sure to inno Sal tho, or at least lynch me first. The only way it's possible for Sal to still be scum at this point is if we're both maf. In any situation other than that, the only way he would have known I visited him in addition to the BG is if his lookout claim is honest. Why do you want to be lynched?
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:16
|
|
|
Anomalous Amalgam posted:N1: Off the top of my head (phone posting): Jailer Mayor Veteran Vigilante Transporter Godfather Mafioso Consigliere Serial Killer Werewolf Executioner Jester
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:17
|
|
|
Mr. Humalong posted:Off the top of my head (phone posting): You are saying he cannot be these things or those are the things he could be?
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:20
|
|
|
Anomalous Amalgam posted:You are saying he cannot be these things or those are the things he could be? He could not be those things. I forgot Medium for town roles and Blackmailer and Disguiser for Mafia. Technically he could be a Consigliere or a Disguiser, but there would be very little point to visiting the same target they wanted to kill night 1. Strike them from the list all the same, it’s possible he could be those two roles.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:22
|
|
|
b-minus1 posted:Why do you want to be lynched? I don't want to be, keep in mind jester is confirmed out of this game. There's only one neutral evil and the witch died night one (this also means there's no executioner). I'm just saying it'd be a dumb move for town to lynch Sal. He's basically confirmed lookout and the only possible way it's not true is if I'm scum and we're working together. So if you really truly still wanna go after Sal it's better for town if I got chopped first. If I did get lynched and flipped town it would confirm his role and town could make moves to either stop him from dying or at least know who done it to trade. Considering I know my own role, I know Sal is confirmed lookout so I'm posting strongly in his defense.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:23
|
|
|
Mr. Humalong posted:He could not be those things. I forgot Medium for town roles and Blackmailer and Disguiser for Mafia. That's the same for framer then
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:24
|
|
|
Ugh. The moddoc on this game is going to be insane.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:26
|
|
|
Anomalous Amalgam posted:That's the same for framer then Nah you wanna framer the target you're killing, that's the whole point of the role. If I were maf the two realistic options would be framer or janitor, both of which would have targeted the night kill but wouldn't have done anything since the BG stopped the death.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:27
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 27, 2024 20:43 |
|
|
PMush Perfect posted:Ugh. The moddoc on this game is going to be insane. Yeah. Seriously. It's why things got screwed up with me accidentally sending Kashuno the wrong information. Since I wanted to get the game open, my option was to either modkill Kashuno (which wouldn't have been fair) or replace Kashuno. Since I didn't want everyone to have to wait an extra day to get the game open, I figured ArbitraryC was a pure enough replacement. It's not like people had a lot to go off day 1. Plus, he's such a cute little newbie. Don't you want to just pinch his cheeks?
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 22:32
|
|
