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Kim Justice posted:Heaven's sake I can't keep up with all of this utter bollocks
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Neddy Seagoon posted:That was kinda my point though, considering a big part of any superhero motif is hiding their identity. Your thinking of Disney's Mulan. Here's the thing, the character would still be a black woman in the 1930's. The problem is that the rocketeer is about nostalgia for a very specific era in American history that black people think of in an entirely different context. Period movies aren't nostalgic for black characters, the most they can be is cathartic (like django unchained) but that requires some real bummer poo poo along the way. Could a talented writer or filmmaker make it work? sure. Would a Black Buffy reboot be easier? absolutely.
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Jul 25, 2018 06:19
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OmanyteJackson posted:Your thinking of Disney's Mulan. I fully agree with all of that. The only point I wanted to make was there was more that could potentially be done or said (by a talented filmmaker) with it than the Buffy reboot.
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Jul 25, 2018 07:31
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ok maybe I don't get the joke, but in-universe there is no rule that says The Slayer Has To Be White the reboot is fine, it's not a retcon or a sequel
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Jul 25, 2018 07:48
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Goa Tse-tung posted:ok maybe I don't get the joke, but in-universe there is no rule that says The Slayer Has To Be White I actually forgot that was a plot point until now, and that would probably make more sense than a reboot. Just continue the original story from two decades ago with the next generation of vampire slayers, and have the main character be black. Hell I'd probably watch that. Not really interested in a reboot.
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Jul 25, 2018 07:56
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Goa Tse-tung posted:ok maybe I don't get the joke, but in-universe there is no rule that says The Slayer Has To Be White tbh, its probably better off being a reboot. iirc continuity in that show ended up being really weird.
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Jul 25, 2018 07:57
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Mokinokaro posted:Apparently this has actually varied heavily from game to game. This is going to be skewed (in a very normal and expected way) by popularity. MW1-3 are absurdly popular and have a reputation for their multiplayer, so there's an organically larger number of people who have a) bought the game because it's the "it" thing but never finished it and b) bought it for the multiplayer because "everyone's playing it." Really the maxim of "people only get CoD for the multiplayer" only applies as an actual truth to the Modern Warfare trilogy and a comparably-small-but-vocal core audience. It's one of those selection bias things. It's definitely true about the most visible players, but the most visible players aren't representative of the total player base. Also I strongly suspect that Activision has dramatically under-estimated the pending backlash when the substantial audience of people who play CoD but don't read IGN find out that there's no campaign in BlOps4 when they get home and put the disc in.
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Jul 25, 2018 08:02
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I've only ever played the story of call of duty games because I'm some kind of inhuman monster who simultaneously can't abide any realistic-shooter multiplayer experience that isn't at least as in-depth as counter strike but also has grown to the age of being bored of counter strike so now I'm just a cold dead husk. What I'm saying is I like dark souls. It fully captures the existential bleakness that makes up the core story of call of duty games but without being racist about it
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Jul 25, 2018 08:17
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lobster22221 posted:tbh, its probably better off being a reboot. iirc continuity in that show ended up being really weird. It ended up with Buffy empowering a whole generation of young women so there was no longer just a single chosen one. It'd be easy enough to follow up on. The comics got weird though.
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Jul 25, 2018 08:26
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It ended up with Buffy empowering a whole generation of young women so there was no longer just a single chosen one. It'd be easy enough to follow up on. I read summaries on tvtropes or some other places once to get an idea of what they were like. Retconning the Angel finale and literally recreating the universe is involved. Also for a while magic didn't exist in a franchise filled with magic. Even in the television parts I thought there was some time travel involved, which generally is the root of a lot of issues.
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Jul 25, 2018 08:42
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It ended up with Buffy empowering a whole generation of young women so there was no longer just a single chosen one. It'd be easy enough to follow up on. Question is do we want them following up on Dawn being a giant/a centaur/dating Xander
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Jul 25, 2018 08:57
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Gnome de plume posted:Question is do we want them following up on Dawn being a giant/a centaur/dating Xander Okay I heard about the last one but what for the first two. The way I heard it told was that she and Xander bonded over being the only normal rear end non-magic wielding humans of the group. Or did all this happen after.
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Jul 25, 2018 09:36
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quick aside to DoD BO3: I loved Abby Brammell's voice acting as the protagonist, her performance really sold me in the escalating situation of the endgame. The world doesn't make sense and she cries out for help.
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Jul 25, 2018 09:45
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I'm a fan of fun mulitplayer shooters but have an extreeme aversion to poo poo linear single player shooters. I played up until the favella in MW2 while the multiplayer was installing and vowed never touched the single player in COD ever again. I played a bit of Advanced Warfare co-op but found it completely bewildering and impossible to parse what was going on at any given moment. Battlefield 4 tied a busted LMG to completing the (mercifully short) campaign and I loving hated every second of it. Battlefield 1's British campaign is the only one of these things I've ever actually enjoyed.
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Jul 25, 2018 11:05
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khwarezm posted:If I recall correctly Samuel L Jackson himself was one of the people who voiced his distaste for black British actors getting roles playing Americans with the argument that it was taking work away from actual African-American people. I think that was a very unfair attitude but it can run pretty deep. His attitude was a little dumber I thought, which was that he objected to Daniel Kaluuya in GET OUT because he was British and the British don't suffer racism in the same way that Americans do. It got a fairly angry sounding response from Kaluuya.
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Jul 25, 2018 11:54
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Jackson’s argument was off but his frustration is understandable and there’s a real issue that can’t just be swept aside. Get Out is a pretty good example to use because Peele was deliberately set against casting a British lead... and then did it anyway.
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Jul 25, 2018 13:28
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khwarezm posted:Also even with White actors there's sometimes a certain mindfulness of their nationality, I remember reading that the producers at Marvel absolutely made sure that whoever played Captain America was actually American, even though there were tons of people from like Britain or Australia who were recommended for the role and that it was very difficult to get Chris Evans to sign up for the role in the end. Yeah, almost every actor in Harry Potter is British (Zoe Wannamaker and Vern Troyer are the only real exceptions) and there would be a riot if an American was cast as James Bond or The Doctor.
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Jul 25, 2018 13:38
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Hang on, I thought this dumb dog had been put down https://twitter.com/RacismDog/status/1022115093692276742 Like, I'm a bit eh on the article but how the hell is it in any way racist
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Jul 25, 2018 16:06
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Mr Phillby posted:I'm a fan of fun mulitplayer shooters but have an extreeme aversion to poo poo linear single player shooters. As I said before Infinite Warfare is probably the best on followed by AW. Battlefield campaigns have always been meh outside bad company 1. It’s not their strong point and because the multiplayer is already so good it doesn’t really matter. Either way my big AAA single player game series is Assassins creed. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jul 25, 2018 |
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Jul 25, 2018 16:17
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Kim Justice posted:Hang on, I thought this dumb dog had been put down Gotta screenshot that stuff.
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Jul 25, 2018 17:48
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Racism Dog is good, frequently causing meltdowns from bigoted douchebags, but they took that clickbaity "Black Buffy" article at face value and presumably went oh wait afterwards.
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Jul 25, 2018 18:54
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Racism Dog has been excellent since the Reddit days. Can’t blame the dog for taking a headline like that at face value when we live in hellworld where just yesterday there was a headline about how libraries were theft and should be replaced by physical Amazon store locations.
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Jul 25, 2018 19:04
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hasn't racism dog barked at stuff for being "anti-white" or am i thinking of a different Animal Screams At Bigot account
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Jul 25, 2018 19:11
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CYBEReris posted:hasn't racism dog barked at stuff for being "anti-white" or am i thinking of a different Animal Screams At Bigot account They’ve gone after people claiming that reverse racism or “anti-whiteness” exists. I sure hope they haven’t gone after The Root-style editorials on white people or something.
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Jul 25, 2018 19:14
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oh i should've googled before asking, it was about this: https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/racism-dog-account-milkshake-duck/
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Jul 25, 2018 19:16
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CYBEReris posted:oh i should've googled before asking, it was about this: https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/racism-dog-account-milkshake-duck/ I would have assumed that tweet was about the framing of the article headline rather than the woman’s actions, but I guess it wasn’t? I hope they come back.
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Jul 25, 2018 19:20
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Episode 9 of Lindsay Ellis' Whole Plate is now out on youtube for all to enjoy.
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Jul 25, 2018 19:24
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Racism Dog is good only because without it we wouldn't have gotten Horny Reply Watchgoose
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Jul 25, 2018 19:34
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Walked home listening to this on my phone giggling like an idiot every 20-odd seconds or so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74KAGEe-IdU e: found a screenshot in the trump thread:  Montasque posted:RETRACT YOUR WOOF SIR! eeee: fucks sake imgur when the hell did you become so bloody inconvenient!?! KayTee fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jul 25, 2018 |
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Jul 25, 2018 19:39
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Ronnie from Game Theory took his own life
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Jul 25, 2018 20:09
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I had no idea there was anyone else on that channel, but its never fun to hear about a death, especially a suicide. It seems like Matt cared about him and the others on the channel a lot.
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Jul 25, 2018 20:24
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Yeah, suicide is the worst. 
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CYBEReris posted:hasn't racism dog barked at stuff for being "anti-white" or am i thinking of a different Animal Screams At Bigot account This isn't the first time something like this has happened no. Like, what's the point of the thing if you're not going to even bother reading (or let's face it, even so much as scanning) an article and try to call it out as racist when it's literally the exact opposite of that? They also tried to open up a Patreon for the thing which would be hilarious to me if it wasn't also kind of irritating
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Jul 25, 2018 20:51
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shocked to find the account based around signal boosting racist stuff to white liberals is ignorant and dumb
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Jul 25, 2018 21:25
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sexpig by night posted:shocked to find the account based around signal boosting racist stuff to white liberals is ignorant and dumb It’s actually good because the whole point is that the racists always respond earnestly to deny that they are racists, prompting the racism dog to do another “bork bork,” which the racist then responds to, to the point where a white man is writing hundreds of words to contradict dog noises. It’s great because it highlights how fragile white men especially are and diagnoses how irrational white denials of racism are and how it doesn’t actually matter what you say to a white racist because their denials always follow the same pattern.
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business hammocks posted:It’s actually good because the whole point is that the racists always respond earnestly to deny that they are racists, prompting the racism dog to do another “bork bork,” which the racist then responds to, to the point where a white man is writing hundreds of words to contradict dog noises. I think not retweeting Deplorable Gunt with 20 followers replying to a Brietbart article to say she also hates the muslims to your massive audience just to go 'bork bork' at it is a better idea but I don't have a fancy patreon to do v. important twitter work so what the gently caress do I know
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Jul 25, 2018 21:36
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business hammocks posted:I would have assumed that tweet was about the framing of the article headline rather than the woman’s actions, but I guess it wasn’t? I hope they come back. that's the problem with this gimmick. if the thing it's barking at has even the most minor of nuances, the reader will fill that context in with whatever first comes to mind. people aren't gonna spend a couple minutes extrapolating the meaning, they're just gonna assume the dog's barking at reverse racism or something.
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Didn't it come out that the guy behind racism dog was creeping on women?
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Roth posted:Didn't it come out that the guy behind racism dog was creeping on women? I think it was the 'we rate dogs' guy was weirdly changing names that were too ethnic to more white ones because THE METRICS or something? One of the dog accounts was a dick and 2018 is a loving hellscape
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sexpig by night posted:I think it was the 'we rate dogs' guy was weirdly changing names that were too ethnic to more white ones because THE METRICS or something? That one is funny because they literally hosed up the one job they had.
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